Does Joe Biden play a role in helping to get Joe Biden elected. Most Muslims are acutely aware of the dangers of Donald Trump. And even so, they are willing to risk his re-election.
They, nevertheless, survived one Trump term and in all likelihood, they’ll survive another. By contrast, Joe Biden’s approach to Israel has presented a far greater and far more clear and present threat to the literal survival of Palestinians is than what Donald Trump has done.
Telling Israel to minimize casualties in their hunt for Hamas is clearly not working since Israel considers every Palestinian man, woman, and child to be Hamas, Hamas supporters, or future members of Hamas.
The US has tremendous leverage over Israel and thus far, it had not been used.
If a president is or is seen to be aiding and abetting an active genocide and he provides cover for the country doing genocide against your own ethnicity and in many cases, your own family members. It’s really hard to change their minds by telling them that the other guy would probably be worse.
I think that most voting blocs who try to move Biden left by threatening to vote against him, are being foolish, in whole or in part. But, IMO, this situation is exceptional and Biden bears all the blame here.
There is a difference from between a Muslim voter who is mad at Biden, and can't bring themselves to vote for Joe Biden, and someone that is trying to organize a multi-state political movement in hopes of guaranteeing a Biden lost.
Conflating the two is an act of bad faith
Tons of other left-wing people are mad at Joe Biden for tons of reasons, but don't turn to actively trying to sink his campaign like this.
I don't see why I should be okay with this type of political buffoonery when I am not okay with it from any other person on the left.
Second, this is bait and switch. You have a policy preference and you are using a political strategy argument to bolster it. The Muslim voter is deemed so important because of the high population in swing states. If you swap the geographical locations of American Jews, and Arab Muslims in America, I doubt you would support Jewish Americans saying do want we want or else we will work to make sure Biden loses.
Helping Trump win will not be a negative positive or neutral for Muslims. It would not be a for millions of Americans.
I don't see why "we'll survive" should give anyone any comfort, especially with so many people who could be hurt by Trump. Should I tell my mother, who has tons of health issues" who will probably lose health coverage if Trump gets a trifecta that "she will survive"? Or should I tell her to blame Biden when her next medical issue comes?
So what happens if the 2028 nominee is progressive and wants to take a hard line on Israel? But some other member of the Democratic coalition wants to guarantee their defeat. Are you gonna be okay to defend them?
If this is your argument, then you and everyone who agrees and defends this should have zero issues with No Labels playing a game of electoral chicken with the Democrats to make the party more conservative and should apologize to people like
osh kosh bosh
when they objected to him saying that the Dems should organize around winning conservative white voters on the margin. Because their voters hold more political power.
Again, people can be mad at Biden. People can make a personal choice not to vote. But the real-life consequences of what is being discussed in the article are tons of people being hurt by Trump.
Biden is old and rich. Besides losing the Presidency, in material terms, he will face minimal blowback from a Trump presidency.
Some people want millions of others to pay the price for them to get revenge on Biden, through electoral politics, for some poor policy choices.
And I'm supposed to not see how dumb, dangerous, and counterproductive that is?
**** that.
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