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[SC kid]

He doesn't need to tell them to lol

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/trump-supporter-arrested-for-vote-fraud-claims-polls-ar-1788361492

His supporters are that stupid

 

[gry60]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-vote-twice_us_5816ad80e4b0990edc31e17f

This dude can't be real life.

If this was in one of Hillary's e-mails and she told one of her campaign advisors or someone on the inside that they should find loopholes in the voting system so that voters can vote twice, it would look extra suspicious and therefore get attention. But this dude yells it out loud in the open and gets away with it.

CNN Stealth Edits Article That Originally Made False Claim Trump Told Supporters To Vote Multiple Times

This is exactly what he said:

At a rally in Greeley, Colo., on Sunday night, Trump told supporters to obtain new ballots because, “do you think those (mail-in) ballots are properly counted?”
Trump then instructed rally-goers to visit a nearby voting center and check to see if their first ballot had been counted, then, “they’ll void your old ballot, they’ll give you a new ballot.”
“Now in some places they probably do that four or five times but we don’t do that. But that’s great,” Trump continued.
But according to Fox 31, Trump’s strategy might not be entirely permissible. Once a voting official has received a ballot, a voter cannot change their vote, according to the Colorado Secretary of State’s office. Whether a vote can be confirmed is unclear, but voiding a ballot does not seem to be an available process, though voters can request a replacement ballot.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article111519972.html#storylink=cpy

Do you know what it's called?

Misinformation.

On top of that, he is encouraging people who have already voted to show up at the polls to cause a disturbance and possibly incriminate themselves, knowing that it will create delays and keep others from casting their vote.

So democratic!

 

[leavemeglazzies]

When The Bigot said that the election was rigged and mentioned voter fraud, did he specify what side he was talking about?? Turns out, he could actually end up telling the truth.

 

[daddy style]

Lol, both are dirty. There are no surprises for those of us who are aware of the amount of filth that both Clinton and Trump are swimming in. It is a choice, the lesser of two evils. I am pretty comfortable stating that Hillary is the lesser. Is she crooked? No doubt. But Trump is a whole other kind of dirty, dating back to the eighties NYC, The Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous kind of dirty. NYC real estate dealings are especially dirty, and I am shocked, actually curious, as to why nobody has dug up Trump's dealings in NYC, because I am sure there is plenty. I expect dirt in Washington politics. I expect dirt in NYC real estate dealings, but dealing in the latter does not qualify someone to be the leader of the free world. For me it really and truly does not matter who gets in there because " the house is on fire", as Malcolm said. I am not looking for water, personally I want to add some brush, put Hillary in there. I want to see the white power structure implode.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Didn't Harry Reid lie about mittens not paying taxes and then brag about it?

Also love hearing democrats talk about protocol when hillary set up a secret and private server. Extremly reckless also used to mean negligent.

I really don't see anything coming out of this anyway. Hysterics for nothing. she will still win by alot.

Oh shut the hell up

Democrats criticize her at length for that move.

 

[daddy style]

Oh shut the hell up

Democrats criticize her at length for that move.

Correct.

 

[teamjordan79]

I am pretty comfortable stating that Hillary is the lesser. Is she crooked? No doubt. But Trump is a whole other kind of dirty, dating back to the eighties NYC, The Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous kind of dirty.

Trump didn't destabilize entire countries, however.

Hillary's actions are far more egregious since she had the means politically and militarily. We're still dealing with the ripple effect (humanitarian crisis, refugees, ISIS in Libya) on a global scale.

Now compare that to "Trump hustled some folks" as Obama would say lol

 

[daddy style]

Trump didn't destabilize entire countries, however.

Hillary's actions are far more egregious since she had the means politically and militarily. We're still dealing with the ripple effect (humanitarian crisis, refugees, ISIS in Libya) on a global scale.

Now compare that to "Trump hustled some folks" as Obama would say lol

lol. It is a matter of perspective. In order fotr Hillary Clinton to get her job done, how many channels did she have to go through, both dem and republican? The dirt lies there. Political favors, backroom dealings that all politicians have to play. Now tell me, who did Trump have to answer to? What channels did he have to go through? You trust his character? Personally, I do not trust either one. I trust who they are pandering to. So, racist white boys who want the country back? Or business as usual with a woman in charge? Give me the latter.

 

[AEA18]

I am pretty comfortable stating that Hillary is the lesser. Is she crooked? No doubt. But Trump is a whole other kind of dirty, dating back to the eighties NYC, The Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous kind of dirty.

Trump didn't destabilize entire countries, however.

Hillary's actions are far more egregious since she had the means politically and militarily. We're still dealing with the ripple effect (humanitarian crisis, refugees, ISIS in Libya) on a global scale.

This post could be taken seriously if you weren't in support of trump

Bomb the s_ out of 'em

Commit war crimes

Bring back torture

Ban all Muslims from entering the U.S.

Kill family members of terrorists

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Updates from ninja's favorite site. Data includes polls & forecast. All numbers updated apprx 1 hour ago.

Senate race.

Updated swing state info...

- North Carolina (15 electoral votes) - 58.2% Clinton.
- Nevada (6 electoral votes) - 59.3% Clinton.
- Florida (29 electoral votes) - 53.7% Clinton.
- Iowa (6 electoral votes) - 56.1% chubby aka male sarah palin.
- Pennsylvania (20 electoral votes) - 83.2% Clinton.
- Ohio (18 electoral votes) - 58.5% chubby aka male sarah palin.
- Colorado (9 electoral votes) - 79.7% Clinton.
- Wisconsin - (10 electoral votes) - 83% Clinton
- Michigan (16 electoral votes) - 84.4% Clinton.
- New Hampshire (4 electoral votes) - 77.8% Clinton.
- Virginia (13 electoral votes) - 89.6% Clinton.

 

[whywesteppin]

Some of you need to step back and look at the big picture.

As has been argued repeatedly, Trump has no respect for women, blacks, the poor or disabled, veterans, immigrants, freedom of speech or press, or religion. He will diminish all the institutions we hold dear that are the foundation of our country. How do we know? Because his entire ******* life he has a track record of going after each of those categories with no hesitation and he has said repeatedly throughout his campaign he will continue to do the same.

How one can argue that he will not is well beyond me.

On the other hand, we have convoluted arguments about how Hillary's actions may or may not have led to destabilization in a foreign country. Well, everyone involved in foreign policy over the past 100 years has done something that may or may not have contributed to destabilization in a foreign country.

And then we have arguments about her private email, which a) has been more thoroughly vetted than anything in modern times, b) is a practice not limited to Hillary, c) is now being reopened over a ******* minor triviality/coincidence but the FBI is timing it during the election and the deplorables are of course making a mountain over a molehill.

This whole thing has been fascinating and terrifying to watch. I've always been proud of America because we are relatively insulated from vast corruption and the tyranny of the minority and the majority, but that has been jeopardized in this election.

I'm sure the founding fathers hate some of us right now. Maybe they can rise from their graves for Halloween.

 

[whywesteppin]

psk, it'll be interesting to see how the prediction will look in the next couple days when we get more polls that include the reaction to the Comey bull ****. And then it'll be interesting to see the reaction to the reaction -- after this has cooled down, will the numbers rebound, reflecting a general apathy from the public over the same old bull ****, or will they keep moving towards the middle (too close to call territory).

 

[Kimchi Papi]

As I've stated before, I don't think the polling will matter much & neither will the Comey BS. People are going to vote how they are going to vote & the renewed email investigation won't alter that. Even thought the polls have favored Hillary, they still don't capture data accurately for minorities & immigrants which will favor Hillary s a whole.

 

[whywesteppin]

^ that's my thinking too. it may change this from a 2008 landslide and make it more similar to the 2012 victory. or this may have been a 1984 landslide in the making but now it'll look more like 2008.

i have mixed feelings on the senate races. i would think those would be a little more insulated from the comey bull **** than the presidential race, but those are closer to tipping than the presidential race as a whole.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

The fact that Latinos are registering to vote in record numbers is very surprising & reassuring because historically, it's a base that doesn't do that. It's a shame because the republicans could've made a lot of in roads in welcoming this group to their party given a lot are religious & conservative but that's been ruined. I think it might even be beyond repair to.

I don't think the numbers are there yet to legitimately turn Texas from red to blue, but I'm interested to see the voting demo there post election. Interested in seeing Arizona's to.

 

[daddy style]

Some of you need to step back and look at the big picture.

As has been argued repeatedly, Trump has no respect for women, blacks, the poor or disabled, veterans, immigrants, freedom of speech or press, or religion. He will diminish all the institutions we hold dear that are the foundation of our country. How do we know? Because his entire ******* life he has a track record of going after each of those categories with no hesitation and he has said repeatedly throughout his campaign he will continue to do the same.

How one can argue that he will not is well beyond me.

On the other hand, we have convoluted arguments about how Hillary's actions may or may not have led to destabilization in a foreign country. Well, everyone involved in foreign policy over the past 100 years has done something that may or may not have contributed to destabilization in a foreign country.

And then we have arguments about her private email, which a) has been more thoroughly vetted than anything in modern times, b) is a practice not limited to Hillary, c) is now being reopened over a ******* minor triviality/coincidence but the FBI is timing it during the election and the deplorables are of course making a mountain over a molehill.

This whole thing has been fascinating and terrifying to watch. I've always been proud of America because we are relatively insulated from vast corruption and the tyranny of the minority and the majority, but that has been jeopardized in this election.

I'm sure the founding fathers hate some of us right now. Maybe they can rise from their graves for Halloween.

I am hoping for Jefferson, as he has a lot of 'splaining to do...lol.

 

[titanium tea]

Some of you need to step back and look at the big picture.

As has been argued repeatedly, Trump has no respect for women, blacks, the poor or disabled, veterans, immigrants, freedom of speech or press, or religion. He will diminish all the institutions we hold dear that are the foundation of our country. How do we know? Because his entire ******* life he has a track record of going after each of those categories with no hesitation and he has said repeatedly throughout his campaign he will continue to do the same.

How one can argue that he will not is well beyond me.

On the other hand, we have convoluted arguments about how Hillary's actions may or may not have led to destabilization in a foreign country. Well, everyone involved in foreign policy over the past 100 years has done something that may or may not have contributed to destabilization in a foreign country.

And then we have arguments about her private email, which a) has been more thoroughly vetted than anything in modern times, b) is a practice not limited to Hillary, c) is now being reopened over a ******* minor triviality/coincidence but the FBI is timing it during the election and the deplorables are of course making a mountain over a molehill.

This whole thing has been fascinating and terrifying to watch. I've always been proud of America because we are relatively insulated from vast corruption and the tyranny of the minority and the majority, but that has been jeopardized in this election.

I'm sure the founding fathers hate some of us right now. Maybe they can rise from their graves for Halloween.

Relatively insulated from vast corruption? 

Its just now being jeopardized? 

We are talking about the usa still

 

[whywesteppin]

Even with a Trump presidency, I believe that our institutions will continue to protect the country and we'll make it through. However, my bigger worry is of course not about making it through to 2020 or about some conspiracy or cover-up but about the plight of those in this country who aren't afforded the same margin of error that others get, and going backwards even just 20 years in women's rights, civil rights, voting rights, gay rights, etc. is a problem.

 

[wubalubadubdub]

I still remember watching anthony weiner on the daily show and loving the guy. What a damn shame. An amazing fall from grace.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

It's very obvious what happened here with Comey.


Comey is a republican, He was investigating Clinton and he pretty quickly figured out that there wasn't enough to charge her with BUT he also knew that the increasingly irrational Republican party was counting on him to finally kill the Clinton boogeyman that's been haunting them for 40 years.

So he figured, "I can't really indict her but what I CAN do, is drag this **** out, and then give a highly inappropriate speech; a hot 16 excoriating Clinton with enough bars so that my Republican bros can cut some attack ads"

"that should satisfy them right??"


WRONG: republicans freaked out, dragged him up to congress, and started ******** on him to the press and he's thinking "WTF man, I was trying to help you guys."


He getting dirty looks at dinner parties, and the entire FBI, which is mostly filled with republicans, are also mad at him, so he starts pannicking. "I gotta be able to show up at the Koch brothers blood orgy when mercury is retrograde, I have to fix this"



Then he gets the Weiner news... and says, "OKAY, new plan, lemme just drop this vague letter, with zero context or explination, this should cause max damage to Clinton and help get back into Republican good graces."





and here we are.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

It's very obvious what happened here with Comey.


Comey is a republican, He was investigating Clinton and he pretty quickly figured out that there wasn't enough to charge her with BUT he also knew that the increasingly irrational Republican party was counting on him to finally kill the Clinton boogeyman that's been haunting them for 40 years.

Now that's it's come out that they've known about these new Weiner e-mails for weeks, it's blatantly evident that Comey pulling this move 10 days before the election is one last desperate attempt to influence its outcome. He will fail to do so though, and in the end it will cost him.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Comey panicked, and in the end he embarrassed himself, he's hated by all sides now.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

I wonder if they will pursue a violation of the hatch act. If he didn't violate it, he certainly violated the spirit of the act. To send the letter saying the investigation is being reopened without any details is terrible especially since the Justice Dept & the FBI have had a understanding not to influence elections within 60 days. A rule that stood for decades.

 

[Xennial]

100% agree. Tucson and Tempe are legit loaded with college chicks

Im done derailing the thread now, my apologies

 

[wubalubadubdub]

Now that's it's come out that they've known about these new Weiner e-mails for weeks, it's blatantly evident that Comey pulling this move 10 days before the election is one last desperate attempt to influence its outcome. He will fail to do so though, and in the end it will cost him.

I read that the organization knew for weeks but comney only just found out and advised congress who then leaked it in 30 seconds . Some say if he did not and sat on it, and it came out after election, that it would paint a bad picture as well.

Also do not underestimate how many feds got mad when comeny did not recommend to prosecute. They might have leaked if commey did not inform Congress.

Too much unknown and media was irresponsible as usual. Loretta lynch deserves part of the blame for making herself look compromised. He's definitely hated on both sides and i dont think the right trusted the FBI anyway. now you can add the left. Add it to the justice dept. And IRS. Isn't it wonderful.

Gotta be the most hated man in america lol