***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Kimchi Papi]

 

[Black Lotus]

This is the wildest part to me. And you can always tell people don't actually care when they bring up immigration reform, they just want to say something and sound like they pay attention/throw shots at Obama's administration.

cuz theyre sinking and grasping at anything to try and stay afloat

 

[ninjahood]

it isn't, but it could've been a layup in 2008, instead he waited till after 2 midterms gutted Democratic numbers in congress to make it a issue...that's all his fault.

This.

Ninja fails at telling time ******* again.

OBAMA WAS NOT THE PRESIDENT IN 2008

Jesus Christ man.

and? he was da president elect & was sworn in 2009... with basically a super majority..and with immigration reform? plenty of chamber of commerce Republicans were around to sign on to immigration reform... except bumbling Barry fumbled it and went to that crap heap Obamacare.

 

[RustyShackleford]

All I'm saying is that its hypocritical to bash Trump for  being anti Latino/a when Obeezy is known as the deporter in chief in the heights.

No it is not.

Obama is following the law. If he refuses to deport people, that is grounds for impeachment.

Obama wants to give people path to citizenship, and keep families together. Trump wants to kick everyone out.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

I'm not going to even bother...

 

[aepps20]

What next? WHAT ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME? WHAT ABOUT CHICAGO? BLUE LIVES MATTER.

 

[ninjahood]

The laughable thing is that immigration isn't even a top issue facing the country...

Healthcare was approaching crisis levels.

Our economy was in shambles

The banking system and the auto industry looking like it might go under

Let's not pass a stimulus, or healthcare reform, or stabilize the economy; what really America should focus on is immigration reform.

Yep, that what we should have focused on in 2009.

he could've passed immigration reform eaaaasy...looks who's making excuses for Bumbling Barry

Congress can walk & chew gum u know...

 

[Mr.Guy]

I voted for Obama once btw.

 

[daddy style]

Immigration reform is simply a tactic to make middle america think that illegals are coming for their jobs, the same jobs that they do not want as americans. It is total ********, just another racist ploy pandering toward the american people, and we know who that is. Those of us who see ourselves as global citizens that simply live in america, welcome immigration. I have never been afraid of competition, as it can only make me better. However for a bunch of entitled white pricks, competition means that their little cushy way of life has been shaken.

 

[Mr.Guy]

he could've passed immigration reform eaaaasy...looks who's making excuses for Bumbling Barry

Congress can walk & chew gum u know...

 

[RustyShackleford]

it isn't, but it could've been a layup in 2008, instead he waited till after 2 midterms gutted Democratic numbers in congress to make it a issue...that's all his fault.

This.

Ninja fails at telling time ******* again.

OBAMA WAS NOT THE PRESIDENT IN 2008

Jesus Christ man.

and? he was da president elect & was sworn in 2009... with basically a super majority..and with immigration reform? plenty of chamber of commerce Republicans were around to sign on to immigration reform... except bumbling Barry fumbled it and went to that crap heap Obamacare.

Obama had a supermajorty for like 24 days.

And it doesn't matter that Obama wasn't president in 2008, the year you said it could have been done. :x

You stay doubling down on your buffoonery. So why didn't Bush push for it in 2008?

 

[deleted]

TimidTebow must be lonely today... looking for attention again

 

[ninjahood]

A super majority!?!?!!

umm yeah? not that he would've of needed it on immigration reform..that was a layup..u even had Chamber of Commerce tyoe Republicans that would've signed up... unlike Obamacare.

 

[EddieDoyers]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-goldberg-comey-protocol-20161031-story.html

The word of the weekend was “protocol.”

In deciding to tell Congress about a new trove of emails that may or may not contain classified information and may or may not relate to Hillary Clinton, FBI Director James Comey broke FBI protocol both by releasing information close to an election and by revealing details of an ongoing investigation. It was a “stunning breach of protocol,” former Atty. Gen. Eric Holder dutifully insisted.

Tim Kaine invoked protocol more than a half dozen times in his interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos. "It is just extremely puzzling,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee said. “Why would you break these two protocols?”

“Puzzled” was the runner-up word of the weekend; Kaine used it repeatedly, as did Clinton’s campaign manager Robby Mook. “We are so puzzled right now,” he told NBC’s Chuck Todd.

Well, let’s try and solve this riddle. Comey’s regrettable decision is much easier to understand once you realize it is one small piece of the larger puzzle. He made a bad choice — though probably the least bad choice of those available to him — precisely because all of the relevant actors in this sordid mess have been breaking protocol for years.

Clinton broke all kinds of protocol by setting up her stealth server and then lying about it not only in public but also, I would argue, to Congress. She broke protocol when her aides smashed phones with a hammer and erased emails — official government records — after they were subject to a congressional subpoena.

Bill Clinton broke protocol when he met with Atty. Gen. Loretta Lynch in secret while his wife was still under investigation by the FBI. Lynch, smarting from her breach of protocol with Bill Clinton, widened the breach by refusing to recuse herself and instead invested in the FBI director the authority to decide whether or not to prosecute Hillary Clinton (that is a power the FBI does not normally have).

President Obama broke protocol when he told “60 Minutes” that Clinton – with whom he had corresponded over an unsecure email channel — had not “endangered” America’s “national security” months before the investigation was concluded.

And, of course, the Democratic Party broke not a formal protocol, but one hell of a rule of thumb, by nominating a woman who carries more baggage than the cargo hold of the Queen Mary.

“There is a very good argument — I would say, an irrefutable argument — that Comey should never have pronounced that the Clinton e-mails investigation was closed (in fact, it would have been appropriate if he had made no public statement about the investigation at all),” Andrew McCarthy, a former federal prosecutor, writes in National Review. “But having made that pronouncement — which, again, Mrs. Clinton was thankful to have and which she has ceaselessly exploited — he was obliged by law-enforcement principles to amend it when it was no longer true.”

And that gets to the heart of it. Comey by his own hand as well as with the encouragement of the Obama administration, the media and the Clinton Industrial Complex, found himself perched atop an enormous mountain of crap. Any effort to get off the fetid summit was bound to leave him soiled.

That is what Clintons do. They do not care about the breach of protocol, only the reach of protocol. Everyone should be sticklers for the rules, except the Clintons and their henchmen. That was the story of the Bill Clinton administration from the firing of the White House travel office, through the numerous money-raising scandals, the impeachment drama to the president’s disastrous last-minute pardons.

They force their allies to sell off bits and pieces of their credibility defending the indefensible, while insisting their critics are the only ones with bad motives. Already, the word has gone forth that Comey’s reputation must be destroyed to protect Clinton’s, the author of her own travails.

We knew it was coming when Clinton said Friday night that Comey sent his letter to the “Republican members of the House.” That was a distortion. He sent it to the relevant chairs, plus the relevant ranking Democrats. But that is standard protocol in Clinton world: Destroy the messenger.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

He keeps repeating himself... He honestly doesn't understand what he's saying.

 

[RustyShackleford]

The laughable thing is that immigration isn't even a top issue facing the country...

Healthcare was approaching crisis levels.

Our economy was in shambles

The banking system and the auto industry looking like it might go under

Let's not pass a stimulus, or healthcare reform, or stabilize the economy; what really America should focus on is immigration reform.

Yep, that what we should have focused on in 2009.

he could've passed immigration reform eaaaasy...looks who's making excuses for Bumbling Barry

Congress can walk & chew gum u know...

So why can't he do it in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016.

What is stop the reforms from happening?

It is certainly not Obama, or the Dems, now is it.

You're blaming the Obama and the Dems for not passing the reforms; yet supporting the party deadly against it.

How ******* stupid is that

 

[Mr.Guy]

Immigration reform is simply a tactic to make middle america think that illegals are coming for their jobs, the same jobs that they do not want as americans. It is total ********, just another racist ploy pandering toward the american people, and we know who that is. Those of is who see ourselves as global citizens thst simply live in america, welcome immigration. I have never been afraid of competition, as it can only make me better. However for s bunch of entitled white pricks, competition means that their little cushy way of life has been shaken.

Tell that to the families that were broken up by Obeezy.

 

[Mr.Guy]

TimidTebow must be lonely today... looking for attention again

Naw just not voting for a chick who called young Black kids super predators.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Immigration reform is simply a tactic to make middle america think that illegals are coming for their jobs, the same jobs that they do not want as americans. It is total ********, just another racist ploy pandering toward the american people, and we know who that is. Those of is who see ourselves as global citizens thst simply live in america, welcome immigration. I have never been afraid of competition, as it can only make me better. However for s bunch of entitled white pricks, competition means that their little cushy way of life has been shaken.

Tell that to the families that were broken up by Obeezy.

You running your mouth because you don't understand basic civics.

You're just making yourself look ignorant with these comments.

Once again, look who is agreeing with you.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

All I'm saying is that its hypocritical to bash Trump for  being anti Latino/a when Obeezy is known as the deporter in chief in the heights.

You do not sound like you know what you're talking about right now, and posting a bunch is not making it any better.

The laughable thing is that immigration isn't even a top issue facing the country...

Healthcare was approaching crisis levels.

Our economy was in shambles

The banking system and the auto industry looking like it might go under

Let's not pass a stimulus, or healthcare reform, or stabilize the economy; what really America should focus on is immigration reform.

Yep, that what we should have focused on in 2009.

Obama could have turned the US into a functioning utopia and people would still be throwing shots at dude. Most of the problems people have with him don't even make sense. A president is not a damn king, they can't just snap their fingers and change everything, as their fearless Furher Donald emptily promises to do.

 

[Mr.Guy]

You running your mouth because you don't understand basic civics.

You're just making yourself look ignorant with these comments.

Once again, look who is agreeing with you.

Were more families not broken up under Obeezy than any other Pres?

 

[RustyShackleford]

TimidTebow must be lonely today... looking for attention again

Naw just not voting for a chick who called young Black kids super predators.

More red herrings.

We have been over this.

She was taking about gang members, not all black kids, and she expressed remorse for using that term, because it was a dog whistle

You mans Bernie made similar comments at the time, don't see your outrage towards him.

 

[ninjahood]

oh look, da whining liberal echo chamber got nothing else to talk about cuz Clinton's campaign is on suicide watch & Huma abedin just threw Clinton's election chances in a tailspin cuz Carlos Danger had 650k of classified emails in a "life insurance" folder.

now ya wanna rewrite history cuz Obama Fumbled Immigration reform when he could've gotten it passed eaaaaaaaaaaaaasily during his first term.

 

[Mr.Guy]

You running your mouth because you don't understand basic civics.

You're just making yourself look ignorant with these comments.

Once again, look who is agreeing with you.

You Hillary and Obama slurpers are no diff or better than Ninja the Trump slurper.

 

[RustyShackleford]

You running your mouth because you don't understand basic civics.

You're just making yourself look ignorant with these comments.

Once again, look who is agreeing with you.

Were more families not broken up under Obeezy than any other Pres?

Is it not required by the Constitution to enforce the laws of the country?

And learn about population growth when you say "more that any other president'.