***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[ninjahood]

Obama effed up on immigration reform, and instead of swallowing that L u wanna be a apologist and deflect to personal attack, you're no different then that Scum Hillary.. instead of taking responsibility for running a private server u wanna blame James Comey for doin his job.

pathetic.

You called me a hack first.

If you don't want to be slandered, don't slander others.

You stay throwing out shots whenever your get corned in an argument, and you feel entitled to say what whenever you want to others with impunity.

When the chin check comes, you go crying

ur a liberal hack, everyone knows this.

i got da same deal as Mayor Koch (RIP), Al Sharpton, and Charlie Rangel. Meanwhile everyone sees you're blatant partisan sycophantic diatribe that can't muster da truth about Bumbling Barry effing up his chances at passing immigration reform.

And everyone sees you're ignorant about politics.

says da lefist partisan hack.

cant even admit Obama Fumbled Immigration reform and instead of being a little honest about it u wanna sound like a liberal stunt dummmy.

and all of this mind u cuz u got no answer for Hillary Clinton... that bum is imploding and u got nothing left to talk about.

 

[noskey]

Gets mad at a personal attack. Supports a man that personally attacks anyone he doesn't like. Hood logic

Trump isnt a NTer...so there goes this "strawman"

Correct. Your papi is to be held to a higher standard than anyone on this board, yet you support his rhetoric that would get him banned from this board.

 

[deleted]

Yup will allow Blacks to catch up to the gains Whites made since the inception of this country. 

How do you reconcile this belief with your recent allegiance with ninjahood, a man who believes that the system of white supremacy in the US is a myth?

 

[rexanglorum]

Hillary Clinton will win but she may not win by the resounding margins needed to capture a real mandate.

When you run a campaign you have two choices to try to get more votes, mobilization and persuasion. Persuasion involves trying to persuade likely voters to vote for you. This involves lots of ads on traditional media. Mobilization involves mobilizing people whose participation is marginal, getting those people to the polls and voting for you. That usually involves opening more campaign offices and recruiting more volunteers and making alliances with groups that can organize marginal voters.

Clinton's campaign has done both things but it has, in my view, diverted too many of its resources into persuasion. They have this obsession with winning the votes of "moderate" Republican women in the suburbs. They are still stuck in 1988 when there were moderate Republicans and America's electorate was so overwhelmingly white that Democrats had to trick millions of conservative whites into thinking that they were just as hostile to minorities as ere Republicans.

This is 2016 and you will win very few votes of affluent, married, white, Republican women if you are a Democrat. You could double the number of ads of Trump calling women "pigs" and it won't make a bit of difference on election day (though it probably has made a few rich suburbanites bashful about telling pollsters about their plans to vote for Trump).

The fact is that there really is no solidarity among women. Church going, well off, white women see their own bodies as sacrosanct but they don't care if Trump grades and gropes and shames the bodies of single women or women of color. Your suburban white Republican lady is one of the most classist and racist voter around.

Clinton should have gone with mobilization to a greater degree and tried to bring more young people, poor people and people of color into the picture. The Democrats do better the more the electorate grows in size and that would have been the path to a bonafide landslide.

 

[ninjahood]

Ninja, what was more important in your mind: saving Detroit and the economy, or passing immigration reform?

both could've been passed..at da same time...thats how congress works.. especially on his 1st term.

 

[noskey]

Ninja, what was more important in your mind: saving Detroit and the economy, or passing immigration reform?

both could've been passed..at da same time...thats how congress works.. especially on his 1st term.

No no no no no, don't deflect, answer the question. Which one is more important in your mind?

 

[daddy style]

Point is Obama's impotence at passing Immigration reform was his own doing, there is no deviation from that fact.

"you strike when da iron is hot"

That is funny, because it seems that you are basing The President's entire legacy upon immigration reform, which actually is a non issue considering all the country was going through when he entered office, a mess that was left behind by someone who did not see immigration reform as an important issue either. How about those weapons of mass destruction? Donald Trump's main talking point at that time? The President was born in Kenya! The logic you use in your arguments is quite strange man.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Immigration reform shouldn't even be this high level of an issue.

irrelevant to da point.

Obama could've gotten it done with bipartisan support during his 1st term with layup ease...he didn't, and now da door is closed.

My point is what you quoted, so I don't know what you're talking about. Immigration reform is damn near a nonissue realistically.

if it was such a non issue why aint Obama passed such a easy nonissue bill during his 1st term?

You're gonna have to ask them goofy *** politicians that. When I see immigration reform it is followed by talking points about: increased crime, not paying taxes, and taking jobs. Coincidentally I see a lot of people who support a guy who says he's "smart" for not paying taxes, encourages violence, and is outsourcing jobs and materials outside of the country supporting immigration reform.

I can tell it's a nonissue because of who is the loudest about it. The same dummies talking about **** like war on Christmas and worrying about some random Mexican taking the 5.78/hr night job that they wouldn't have even applied for.

People talk about immigration reform like it's going to fix the companies ******* you AND selling you BS products, the government ******* you AND robbing you, the healthcare industry ******* you AND overcharging you to keep you alive and not even save you in the end, the police ******* you AND possibly killing you for nothing cuz they felt scared in a tact vest with a machine gun.

It's a nonissue. Period.

Help those people at Standing Rock, give the people in Flint clean water, save the schools in Chicago and bring the kids jobs, fix the education system, find out how the hell white supremacists infiltrated police and the FBI let it slide.

**** immigration reform.

 

[Mr.Guy]

How do you reconcile this belief with your recent allegiance with ninjahood, a man who believes that the system of white supremacy in the US is a myth?

There are  many things Ninja and I agree and disagree with. 

 

[ninjahood]

Ninja, what was more important in your mind: saving Detroit and the economy, or passing immigration reform?

both could've been passed..at da same time...thats how congress works.. especially on his 1st term.

No no no no no, don't deflect, answer the question. Which one is more important in your mind?

its irrelevant.

because both could've happened i.e. walking & chewing gum.

 

[Mr.Guy]

Hillary Clinton will win but she may not win by the resounding margins needed to capture a real mandate.

When you run a campaign you have two choices to try to get more votes, mobilization and persuasion. Persuasion involves trying to persuade likely voters to vote for you. This involves lots of ads on traditional media. Mobilization involves mobilizing people whose participation is marginal, getting those people to the polls and voting for you. That usually involves opening more campaign offices and recruiting more volunteers and making alliances with groups that can organize marginal voters.

Clinton's campaign has done both things but it has, in my view, diverted too many of its resources into persuasion. They have this obsession with winning the votes of "moderate" Republican women in the suburbs. They are still stuck in 1988 when there were moderate Republicans and America's electorate was so overwhelmingly white that Democrats had to trick millions of conservative whites into thinking that they were just as hostile to minorities as ere Republicans.

This is 2016 and you will win very few votes of affluent, married, white, Republican women if you are a Democrat. You could double the number of ads of Trump calling women "pigs" and it won't make a bit of difference on election day (though it probably has made a few rich suburbanites bashful about telling pollsters about their plans to vote for Trump).

The fact is that there really is no solidarity among women. Church going, well off, white women see their own bodies as sacrosanct but they don't care if Trump grades and gropes and shames the bodies of single women or women of color. Your suburban white Republican lady is one of the most classist and racist voter around.

Clinton should have gone with mobilization to a greater degree and tried to bring more young people, poor people and people of color into the picture. The Democrats do better the more the electorate grows in size and that would have been the path to a bonafide landslide.

Hillary is a centrist, Im not surprised. Her VP  pick shows where she stands.

 

[ninjahood]

Immigration reform shouldn't even be this high level of an issue.

irrelevant to da point.

Obama could've gotten it done with bipartisan support during his 1st term with layup ease...he didn't, and now da door is closed.

My point is what you quoted, so I don't know what you're talking about. Immigration reform is damn near a nonissue realistically.

if it was such a non issue why aint Obama passed such a easy nonissue bill during his 1st term?

You're gonna have to ask them goofy *** politicians that. When I see immigration reform it is followed by talking points about: increased crime, not paying taxes, and taking jobs. Coincidentally I see a lot of people who support a guy who says he's "smart" for not paying taxes, encourages violence, and is outsourcing jobs and materials outside of the country supporting immigration reform.

I can tell it's a nonissue because of who is the loudest about it. The same dummies talking about **** like war on Christmas and worrying about some random Mexican taking the 5.78/hr night job that they wouldn't have even applied for.

People talk about immigration reform like it's going to fix the companies ******* you AND selling you BS products, the government ******* you AND robbing you, the healthcare industry ******* you AND overcharging you to keep you alive and not even save you in the end, the police ******* you AND possibly killing you for nothing cuz they felt scared in a tact vest with a machine gun.

It's a nonissue. Period.

Help those people at Standing Rock, give the people in Flint clean water, save the schools in Chicago and bring the kids jobs, fix the education system, find out how the hell white supremacists infiltrated police and the FBI let it slide.

**** immigration reform.

that's you're opinion, i know people directly effected by immigration, and had it passed during 2009-2010 they would've been better off.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Hillary is a centrist

 

[noskey]

Ninja, what was more important in your mind: saving Detroit and the economy, or passing immigration reform?

both could've been passed..at da same time...thats how congress works.. especially on his 1st term.

No no no no no, don't deflect, answer the question. Which one is more important in your mind?

its irrelevant.

because both could've happened i.e. walking & chewing gum.

This is an opinion question. Not a quiz. What's more important to you, saving Detroit and the economy, or passing immigration reform?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Immigration reform shouldn't even be this high level of an issue.

irrelevant to da point.

Obama could've gotten it done with bipartisan support during his 1st term with layup ease...he didn't, and now da door is closed.

My point is what you quoted, so I don't know what you're talking about. Immigration reform is damn near a nonissue realistically.

if it was such a non issue why aint Obama passed such a easy nonissue bill during his 1st term?

You're gonna have to ask them goofy *** politicians that. When I see immigration reform it is followed by talking points about: increased crime, not paying taxes, and taking jobs. Coincidentally I see a lot of people who support a guy who says he's "smart" for not paying taxes, encourages violence, and is outsourcing jobs and materials outside of the country supporting immigration reform.

I can tell it's a nonissue because of who is the loudest about it. The same dummies talking about **** like war on Christmas and worrying about some random Mexican taking the 5.78/hr night job that they wouldn't have even applied for.

People talk about immigration reform like it's going to fix the companies ******* you AND selling you BS products, the government ******* you AND robbing you, the healthcare industry ******* you AND overcharging you to keep you alive and not even save you in the end, the police ******* you AND possibly killing you for nothing cuz they felt scared in a tact vest with a machine gun.

It's a nonissue. Period.

Help those people at Standing Rock, give the people in Flint clean water, save the schools in Chicago and bring the kids jobs, fix the education system, find out how the hell white supremacists infiltrated police and the FBI let it slide.

**** immigration reform.

that's you're opinion, i know people directly effected by immigration, and had it passed during 2009-2010 they would've been better off.

So why doesn't the GOP vote for it.

Why give them a pass.

 

[daddy style]

There are  many things Ninja and I agree and disagree with. 

Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Mr.Guy]

For Halloween Obama should dress up as a person with a backbone.

 

[noskey]

TebowHood out here for Halloween hot off the slander sauce.

 

[Mr.Guy]

TebowHood out here for Halloween hot off the slander sauce.

 

[everysingletime]

It's sad that this thread is the most entertainment I've had today

 

[daddy style]

For Halloween Obama should dress up as a person with a backbone.

You mean like pulling the trigger on Bin Laden and Quadaffi?

 

[Mr.Guy]

You mean like pulling the trigger on Bin Laden and Quadaffi?

Stil waiting to see pictures of Bin Laden's body.

 

[Mr.Guy]

I dont see how you dudes like Hillary chick is like a robot. 

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Immigration reform shouldn't even be this high level of an issue.

irrelevant to da point.

Obama could've gotten it done with bipartisan support during his 1st term with layup ease...he didn't, and now da door is closed.

My point is what you quoted, so I don't know what you're talking about. Immigration reform is damn near a nonissue realistically.

if it was such a non issue why aint Obama passed such a easy nonissue bill during his 1st term?

You're gonna have to ask them goofy *** politicians that. When I see immigration reform it is followed by talking points about: increased crime, not paying taxes, and taking jobs. Coincidentally I see a lot of people who support a guy who says he's "smart" for not paying taxes, encourages violence, and is outsourcing jobs and materials outside of the country supporting immigration reform.

I can tell it's a nonissue because of who is the loudest about it. The same dummies talking about **** like war on Christmas and worrying about some random Mexican taking the 5.78/hr night job that they wouldn't have even applied for.

People talk about immigration reform like it's going to fix the companies ******* you AND selling you BS products, the government ******* you AND robbing you, the healthcare industry ******* you AND overcharging you to keep you alive and not even save you in the end, the police ******* you AND possibly killing you for nothing cuz they felt scared in a tact vest with a machine gun.

It's a nonissue. Period.

Help those people at Standing Rock, give the people in Flint clean water, save the schools in Chicago and bring the kids jobs, fix the education system, find out how the hell white supremacists infiltrated police and the FBI let it slide.

**** immigration reform.

that's you're opinion, i know people directly effected by immigration, and had it passed during 2009-2010 they would've been better off.

So why doesn't the GOP vote for it.

Why give them as pass.

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They could open da proverbial door but they will not.

Obamas fault

 

[ninjahood]

by someone who did not see immigration reform as an important issue either.

WASHINGTON (CBS) - Name the speaker: "Legal immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people and Congress's failure to act on it is a disappointment."

Sounds like something President Obama has said countless times.

But the quote above was uttered by his predecessor, George W. Bush on June 28, 2007 -- after more than a year and a half of speeches designed to get Congress to enact immigration reform.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-last-president-who-couldnt-get-congress-to-act-on-immigration/

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