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Immigration reform shouldn't even be this high level of an issue.
irrelevant to da point.

Obama could've gotten it done with bipartisan support during his 1st term with layup ease...he didn't, and now da door is closed.


My point is what you quoted, so I don't know what you're talking about. Immigration reform is damn near a nonissue realistically.

if it was such a non issue why aint Obama passed such a easy nonissue bill during his 1st term?


You're gonna have to ask them goofy *** politicians that. When I see immigration reform it is followed by talking points about: increased crime, not paying taxes, and taking jobs. Coincidentally I see a lot of people who support a guy who says he's "smart" for not paying taxes, encourages violence, and is outsourcing jobs and materials outside of the country supporting immigration reform.

I can tell it's a nonissue because of who is the loudest about it. The same dummies talking about **** like war on Christmas and worrying about some random Mexican taking the 5.78/hr night job that they wouldn't have even applied for.

People talk about immigration reform like it's going to fix the companies ******* you AND selling you BS products, the government ******* you AND robbing you, the healthcare industry ******* you AND overcharging you to keep you alive and not even save you in the end, the police ******* you AND possibly killing you for nothing cuz they felt scared in a tact vest with a machine gun.

It's a nonissue. Period.

Help those people at Standing Rock, give the people in Flint clean water, save the schools in Chicago and bring the kids jobs, fix the education system, find out how the hell white supremacists infiltrated police and the FBI let it slide.

**** immigration reform.

Immigration reform is not a non-issue. And to be honest, America needs to repair its immigration system for a lot of reason.

But it shouldn't be just focused on South American immigrants. Chinese immigrants are flying in, and companies (liberal and conservative) love using documented and undocumented immigration to suppress wages. From farming to the tech industry.

Don't let the bleeding heart liberal tech CEO championing letting South American citizens stay, but will use Indian immigrants to make sure his workers don't unionize.

Immigration reform needs to be done, there will have to be compromises, it is an important issue, but there are tons of more pressing ones.

And too be honest, the pipeline protest isn't one of them. That could be solved easily, the authorities are just doubling down on their stupidity and entitlement.
 
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Obama effed up on immigration reform, and instead of swallowing that L u wanna be a apologist and deflect to personal attack, you're no different then that Scum Hillary.. instead of taking responsibility for running a private server u wanna blame James Comey for doin his job.

pathetic.

You called me a hack first.

If you don't want to be slandered, don't slander others.

You stay throwing out shots whenever your get corned in an argument, and you feel entitled to say what whenever you want to others with impunity.

When the chin check comes, you go crying

ur a liberal hack, everyone knows this.

i got da same deal as Mayor Koch (RIP), Al Sharpton, and Charlie Rangel. Meanwhile everyone sees you're blatant partisan sycophantic diatribe that can't muster da truth about Bumbling Barry effing up his chances at passing immigration reform.

And everyone sees you're ignorant about politics.

says da lefist partisan hack.

cant even admit Obama Fumbled Immigration reform and instead of being a little honest about it u wanna sound like a liberal stunt dummmy.

and all of this mind u cuz u got no answer for Hillary Clinton... that bum is imploding and u got nothing left to talk about.

Keep calling me a hack if you want.

But if you do, the next time i chin check you, don't go crying.
 
only chin checking u doing is within liberal crevasses with this fake ignorance and now your walking back of immigration cuz u knew Obama effed it up.
 
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https://thinkprogress.org/black-vot...er-last-minute-purges-9526858aa749#.y6twhyavv
Three counties in North Carolina are canceling the voter registration  of thousands of eligible residents— most of them African-American Democrats — just days before the 2016 election. On Monday, the North Carolina conference of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) sued the state and demanded an immediate stop to the practice, which they dubbed “a coordinated effort right out of the GOP playbook to suppress the black vote in the state.”
 
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CNN drops Donna Brazile as pundit over WikiLeaks revelations

Donna Brazile, chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), walks through the spin room after the second 2016 presidential debate in St. Louis on Oct. 9. (Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg)
By Paul Farhi StyleOctober 31 at 2:51 PM
CNN has cut ties with commentator and interim Democratic National Committee chair Donna Brazile after WikiLeaks revealed that Brazile provided more primary debate questions to Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

The network said it accepted Brazile’s resignation as a contributor Monday after the hacked emails showed that she had tipped off Clinton’s campaign to likely questions during the primaries.

In a statement, CNN spokeswoman Lauren Pratapas said, “We are completely uncomfortable with what we have learned about her interactions with the Clinton campaign while she was a CNN contributor.”
WikiLeaks had previously revealed that Brazile had emailed John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, in March about her access to questions that would be asked at CNN-sponsored primary debates. “From time to time I get the questions in advance,” she told Podesta on March 12. She added, “I’ll send a few more

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...1c6abc-9f92-11e6-8d63-3e0a660f1f04_story.html

good for this idiot.

and Hillary still got this moron on da payroll.
 
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by someone who did not see immigration reform as an important issue either.

WASHINGTON (CBS) - Name the speaker: "Legal immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people and Congress's failure to act on it is a disappointment."

Sounds like something President Obama has said countless times.

But the quote above was uttered by his predecessor, George W. Bush on June 28, 2007 -- after more than a year and a half of speeches designed to get Congress to enact immigration reform.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-last-president-who-couldnt-get-congress-to-act-on-immigration/

shhhhhhhhhh.......

That bill was criticized from both sides. People objected to it for many reasons.

But at the end, which party voted for it more?

Lemme help you:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00235
 
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Authorities flexing on the natives as well as others throughout the US goes into the policing reform I'm talking about.

Companies using immigrants for cheap labor and outsourcing, tax loopholes, ignoring the health of the environment and human life = fix how they operate.

Immigration reform should be on the back burner and on low, let it simmer a lil bit.
 
 
I dont see how you dudes like Hillary chick is like a robot. 
Not many people posting here "like" her like that. I think most NTers who will be voting for her voted or preferred Bernie over her in the primaries, including myself.

It's just that she's running against one of the legit worst all-round people I have ever seen in my life. Both in terms of what he did, what he said and just how he acts in general. I don't think I've ever seen a person who is as just pure mean and unlikable as him. I hated George W's policies, but the guy still had this goofy charm about him. With George W., I could at least laugh at him. This guy Drumpf just disgusts me in every way imaginable, and every week he comes out with a new statement of dickery or a statement that he made in the past that comes to light that makes me dislike him even more if that's possible.

So yeah, between him and Hillary - not a hard choice.
 
I dont see how you dudes like Hillary chick is like a robot. 

cuz they're liberals... Anthony Weiner's pervertedness is da reason they're in a world of hurt now & these folks are indifferent about it.

plus this...



its getting straight disgraceful.
 
Authorities flexing on the natives as well as others throughout the US goes into the policing reform I'm talking about.

Companies using immigrants for cheap labor and outsourcing, tax loopholes, ignoring the health of the environment and human life = fix how they operate.

Immigration reform should be on the back burner and on low, let it simmer a lil bit.

Dude you can't change how they operate without passing immigration reform.

Immigration reform is becoming like healthcare, we need to stop kicking the can down the road and do something.

And I was talking about the entire protest being avoided if they had not tried to fast track the permits. The protest is a environmental justice issue first and foremost in my mind.
 
 
I dont see how you dudes like Hillary chick is like a robot. 

Not many people posting here "like" her like that. I think most NTers who will be voting for her voted or preferred Bernie over her in the primaries, including myself.

It's just that she's running against one of the legit worst all-round people I have ever seen in my life. Both in terms of what he did, what he said and just how he acts in general. I don't think I've ever seen a person who is as just pure mean and unlikable as him. I hated George W's policies, but the guy still had this goofy charm about him. With George W., I could at least laugh at him. This guy Drumpf just disgusts me in every way imaginable, and every week he comes out with a new statement of dickery or a statement that he made in the past that comes to light that makes me dislike him even more if that's possible.

So yeah, between him and Hillary - not a hard choice.

All this.

Also I can't stand Hillary but she doesn't have a legion of white militants and racists behind her waiting for validation of their beliefs via a victory. Some of the people supporting dude are more dangerous than he is.
 
by someone who did not see immigration reform as an important issue either.

WASHINGTON (CBS) - Name the speaker: "Legal immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people and Congress's failure to act on it is a disappointment."

Sounds like something President Obama has said countless times.

But the quote above was uttered by his predecessor, George W. Bush on June 28, 2007 -- after more than a year and a half of speeches designed to get Congress to enact immigration reform.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-last-president-who-couldnt-get-congress-to-act-on-immigration/

shhhhhhhhhh.......

That bill was criticized from both sides. People objected to it for many reasons.

But at the end, which party voted for it more?

Lemme help you:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00235

bush tried...for a year+ and Liberals & conservative partisans tanked it.

Obama didn't have this problem in his 1st term.
 
by someone who did not see immigration reform as an important issue either.

WASHINGTON (CBS) - Name the speaker: "Legal immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people and Congress's failure to act on it is a disappointment."

Sounds like something President Obama has said countless times.

But the quote above was uttered by his predecessor, George W. Bush on June 28, 2007 -- after more than a year and a half of speeches designed to get Congress to enact immigration reform.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-last-president-who-couldnt-get-congress-to-act-on-immigration/

shhhhhhhhhh.......

That bill was criticized from both sides. People objected to it for many reasons.

But at the end, which party voted for it more?

Lemme help you:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00235

bush tried...for a year+ and Liberals & conservative partisans tanked it.

Obama didn't have this problem in his 1st term.

Yes he did. By your logic yes he did.

If liberal and conservatives partisans wouldn't compromise, they wouldn't vote for it on principle, a bill still doesn't pass.

And he didn't have 60 votes in his pocket. The public option is a perfect example of that.
 
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 Diff topic but I stopped paying my Obamacare will I be fined? If so how much is the fine?
 
Authorities flexing on the natives as well as others throughout the US goes into the policing reform I'm talking about.

Companies using immigrants for cheap labor and outsourcing, tax loopholes, ignoring the health of the environment and human life = fix how they operate.

Immigration reform should be on the back burner and on low, let it simmer a lil bit.

Dude you can't change how they operate without passing immigration reform.

Immigration reform is becoming like healthcare, we need to stop kicking the can down the road and do something.

And I was talking about the entire protest being avoided if they had not tried to fast track the permits. The protest is a environmental justice issue first and foremost in my mind.


Why not change them first then go back for the immigration reform though?

And I got you on the protests. Didn't fully grasp your point.

The environment needs justice too though :lol Lowkey humanitarian issue also if they **** up their water supply, which is one of their biggest worries.
 
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