***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Public Enemy]

Maybe just maybe the media is going to wake up and start showing the 'emperor' has no clothes on. First Lawrence, then Joy, then that one panel (may have been NPR) and now Anderson. Fox will never do it but if other media outlets finally start doing what they should, things could start trending back to normal.

 

[chao7]

Maybe just maybe the media is going to wake up and start showing the 'emperor' has no clothes on. First Lawrence, then Joy, then that one panel (may have been NPR) and now Anderson. Fox will never do it but if other media outlets finally start doing what they should, things could start trending back to normal.

Very accurate take on what is happening in a lot of media like CNN right now. If Kamala did like 5% of the crazy **** Trump does we would be scrambling to replace her. It's unbelievable how most media just bends over backwards to make him sound more reasonable:

 

[youngwolf]

 

[chao7]

Speaking of media, random Niketalk ad while scrolling this exact thread

 

[elpablo21]

I wouldn't hold my breath on some sort of media shift happening

Not really the priority in their business models

 

[Public Enemy]

I don’t think anybody is holding their breath on it but it’s happening all the same, slowly. Truth is a good thing.

 

[gry60]

yes, generating positive media is part of the job being a politician.
obviously there are various headwinds, and other factors that make it hard to do this, but that's the case for every politician,

to throw your hands up and retreat to media criticism is just again learned helplessness

When media outlets engage in bad faith analysis, it's best not to entertain or feed their ********. There is no "learned helplessness" about it; it's simply a question of prioritizing one's time and effort on those outlets that are willing to present the facts around the election as they are instead of entertaining outlets hellbent on manipulating what a candidate says in order to generate clicks.

After the Biden debate, the coverage focused on his hesitations with a couple of articles (out of hundreds!) about Trump's lies and incoherence. Now that Harris is the Dem candidate, the press is trying to generate scandalous headlines from her public appearances, and at the same time, they are printing and publishing editorialized versions of Trump's incoherent speeches.

Why would any sane candidate waste their time communicating through legacy media when this is the landscape they set up and are willing to operate under?

 

[05fordgt]

1. Correct

2. I like it, but I don't think the "if he's talking he's lying" thing is enough because everybody knows he lies. I think it may need to be more pointed. She'll have to have a way to say "You said x in 2023 and then y in 2024, so you lied", or otherwise give specifics of his hypocrisies and broken promises like Mayor Pete does.

3. Agreed on the soundbites. They're still selling gear with the childless cat lady stuff on store.kamalaharris.com

I think it's an impossible task to debate someone who is not only "graded on a curve", but instead he's not really graded at all. Think about it, the only true way he would get any negative press, is if he said very little. That's it. That's the only way. Otherwise, he can just do his gish gallop **** as usual, the televised media will sane-wash him and the owned-by-billionaires media will aide him with 1000% absurd headlines.

Moderator:"Won't the effect of a [policy decision] wind up being [disastrous outcome for 95% of Americans]?"
Trump: "Well if you let her become president everybody will be raped by mexican immigrants and white people will be enslaved by the end of her first year in office. If you wanna be raped, vote for her. She's going to go from indian to black to her race being 'rape'. "
Moderator: "..........."

Next day press: "Will a vote for Kamala result in your grandparents being raped by M-13 gang members? We asked some experts"

The really sad thing, is your hypothetical is something that sounds like it would happen by one of the POS media channels.

 

[elpablo21]

I don’t think anybody is holding their breath on it but it’s happening all the same, slowly. Truth is a good thing.

Feels like the same song and dance. Not Lawrence and Joy though. They've been on this type of timing the entire time really. Hope I'm wrong though

 

[05fordgt]

TIMBER!!!!

That was NOT what I was expecting ONE IODA when that walking Redwood approached the small guy! One swing ... GOOD NIGHT!!!

 

[dragicon]

It’s honestly shocking that a response like this comes from a person with children