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***Official Political Discussion Thread***
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aepps20
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What A DISGRACE
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Trying to find it not sure if it was here or on Twitter. Where about a week or a week and a half ago said that by the end the weekend before the election Nate will have Kamala winning, just to hedge both sides.
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He’s a right wing grifter now. Dude threw away all his credibility and self respect.
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Once you're on NT for 15 years plus, we should have a database where we can check in on each other.
RustyShackleford
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I don’t think people want to even understand data. He called out these polls herding to the same results. Now we have a few pushing things toward Harris late. Is he supposed to take a guess on how far off each poll is and tell us the actual number? He’s a poll aggregator and statistician giving an assessment of the overall situation. People think he holds the answer to who will win and that’s not what he does
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I’m legitimately scared.
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I think this is a rational reaction. Whatever you believe about polling manipulation or bias, October surprises, or ground game advantages, this election is far too close given the extreme imbalance in the qualifications of the two candidates.
That the election is thus close at all is a terrible indictment on the beliefs and values of this country as well as its judgment. The best case scenario is we avoid disaster and grind through another term of a divided ineffective legislature. The worst case scenario is too horrible to analyze.
But the proper response that fear is action. Let your fear motivate you to do something more than vote - even if it’s just calling 2 or 3 low likelihood voters that you know to make it to the polls.
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I live in a blue state that has no chance of going for Trump.
Action on my part will have no impact on the outcome of the election.
…sad but true.
yobyellav
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Springfield Ohio Sheriff’s Lieutenant Says He Won’t Protect Dems
In a slew of social media posts, a veteran Ohio sheriff’s lieutenant said he would not protect those who voted for Vice President Kamala Harris—or those who identified as Democrats. Lt. John Rodgers, a 20-year veteran of the Clark County sheriff’s office, posted on Facebook that he would not...
One of the ones Joe was talking about. All he got was a reprimand, didn’t miss a day.
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Surprisingly, I’m not really concerned. I think this will be similar to 2020. Maybe swap Arizona or Georgia for NC.
By the way, which states usually have their results first? I know GA and PA are usually really late if I remember correctly.
By the way, which states usually have their results first? I know GA and PA are usually really late if I remember correctly.
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There's always downballot stuff Davey. Make sure you vote!
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Was watching one of the morning shows and they said NH closes at 7:00 so that should be among the first in, and the thought was the results there could provide some insight into how things could go.
....or not. To me, nobody really knows.
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Only 15 minutes in but a couple things are evident. These 'undecided' people are every bit the way you would expect in an election where you're essentially choosing a dinner of a hamburger or a plate of broken glass. And the other thing that is evident is that Pete remains really, really good at talking to people and expressing ideas.
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omg
I'm feeling good based on the Senate polling. It looks like the pollsters over adjusted for Trump in the Presidential polls. Based on the enthusiasm, energy, and attendance at her rallies she should be polling at least even with the Senate candidates, which gives her at least 270.
aepps20
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My thoughts going into Tuesday.
1. We have to leave it all on the field. If you can spare a few hours to text bank, phone bank, canvass or donate please do so. Kamala will win if we do more than just vote.
2. Do not, I repeat do not get hyped or discouraged by initial results. We might see blue or red mirages as votes get counted differently state by state.
3. I would rather be us than them but this race will be close if White women play games like they did with Hillary.
4. The various abortion amendments will help us in states like Arizona and Nevada. Split ticket voting is a thing but I am optimistic that the splits will be in our favor.
5. LFG
1. We have to leave it all on the field. If you can spare a few hours to text bank, phone bank, canvass or donate please do so. Kamala will win if we do more than just vote.
2. Do not, I repeat do not get hyped or discouraged by initial results. We might see blue or red mirages as votes get counted differently state by state.
3. I would rather be us than them but this race will be close if White women play games like they did with Hillary.
4. The various abortion amendments will help us in states like Arizona and Nevada. Split ticket voting is a thing but I am optimistic that the splits will be in our favor.
5. LFG
aepps20
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With all do respect, action on your part can have an impact. I live in CO that used to be red, turned purple and is now reliably blue. Those of us that live in Blue states can and should donate, volunteer and help GOTV. I wrote postcards to swing states, donated and focused on texting and phone banking. There is still time for you to do any of these things
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I live in Maryland, so I get this. But I know people who live in other states. Most Americans do.
Even if you don’t, a bigger popular vote count will help with any dumb legal challenges that get thrown out.
And at the very least, calling a few buds and nagging them to vote lets you burn nervous energy and maybe gives you some psychological cover…
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Larry Hogan’s most played commercial here in MD is urging people to vote for he and Kamala.
Think Alsobrooks wins quite easily, but her whole campaign has literally just been “you have to vote for me so republicans don’t control the senate”
aepps20
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That’s the strongest case because I heard Hogan was trying to say he wouldn’t vote like a Republican but we all know they fall in line every time. He would be the male Susan Collins and vote with Trump every time.Larry Hogan’s most played commercial here in MD is urging people to vote for he and Kamala.
Think Alsobrooks wins quite easily, but her whole campaign has literally just been “you have to vote for me so republicans don’t control the senate”
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Washington hasn't voted Red for president since 1984, and the margins have only gotten bigger in the last twenty years. Biden won by 20 points in 2020, Hillary by 16 in 2016, Obama won by about 16 both of his elections. Washington also hasn't had a Red governor since Dan Evans in the early 1980s, and he was hardly a Republican. The state GOP trots out completely unserious candidates for governor now, and they're projected to lose by more than 20 this year again. There are a couple deep red House seats, but that's to be expected in those rural areas.
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There is so much we could all say about this but I'm just gonna let it go.
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