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Nah I get his angle

Ninja all these years is against any sort of overzealous regulation

And to be honest, the SJW movement did get annoying

However, Ninja believes that fix of that will be having officials that aren't moderate but are instead right wing nutjobs, which he thinks will balance out the left.

Problem is that when you go full right, there won't be any balance. Same as the past 8 years where we have gone almost full left.

I have a feeling 2020 will be the year of the moderate.


Yea. Unfortunately, he reflects a lot of people who aren't optimistic about the future and don't know the back story of most of these men. The SJWs need to find a better way to get the people they're upset with to agree with their point of a view. And even then its hard for ppl like SJWs to see and empathize beyond their own perspective right or wrong
Most Americans in general lack empathy, doesn't matter what political affiliation you are.
It will get to the point where we are close to our destruction where we will start caring about each other.
 
Afraid of cowards? No. I would've dumped a clip into those pieces of ****. That's the appropriate response when confronted by a pack of violent animals. I'll treat anyone of any ethnicity the same if they try to pull that on me or die trying. Terrorism? The gangster, poor me, trash of blacks, Hispanics,whites etc. have hurt far more lives than a couple dozen Middle East terrorists. But you're right, it's white people shooting blacks in the ghettos of America. 3,000+ shootings ALONE in Chicago. You're killing each other. Facts. The real world? I'm in the real world it's you drowning in the sjw bs. We don't live in 1619 anymore, it's 2016 and we have a black president who wouldn't have won without the support of a ton of white people. You're disingenuous to imply that things in this country are as they were even 30 years ago. Whites are MANY times more likely to be a victim of violent crime committed by blacks. Whites are also shot twice as much by police than blacks. But you don't want to hear all that. Facts are irrelevant to idiots like you. You're off in you're own dream world. You're just like the KKK. Bull was a pathetic excuse for a man as were his followers and supporters. Bull Connor and racist blacks are the same trash and you have joined them. Too bad you couldn't shoot the **** with Bull, you both have a lot in common. While he wouldn't like your skin color he'd appreciate your attitude. I'm not asking you to feel sorry for anyone just pointing out your hypocrisy. Be careful what you wish for... you have a rude awakening coming. This country is a powder keg, and it sounds like you want to light the match.
All talk, you aren't going to do a thing to anyone but talk smack on Nike Talk.
 
i love it.


SJWs became food da second Trump won... can't stand these cry babies...


and now that Da left is da weakest its been since reconstruction, we won't have to worry about em for a LONG TIME...


maybe they'll actually court da common man...about jobs, and not da fragile snowflakes...


Bro these dudes are villains. I dunno what your angle is but I'm unsure you realise who this guy is hiring
Nah I get his angle
Ninja all these years is against any sort of overzealous regulation
And to be honest, the SJW movement did get annoying
However, Ninja believes that fix of that will be having officials that aren't moderate but are instead right wing nutjobs, which he thinks will balance out the left.
Problem is that when you go full right, there won't be any balance. Same as the past 8 years where we have gone almost full left.
I have a feeling 2020 will be the year of the moderate.

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With the anti-intellectualism going on in the country, we have gone full ****** for quite a while.
 
Most Americans in general lack empathy

This.

The culture of extreme individualism is at the core of many of the problems we have in this country. People are too much into themselves to admit it though.
 


Dog you're not wrong for wanting better Jobs, but what the democrats were trying to do was turn the entire world into a safe westernized job market. Internationally everyone would benefit; and that would mean people everywhere including the US would have to up their game on all levels also. I think many people feel like they should live their life at the pace they themselves desire, which is the beauty of having different countries on this planet.

BUT THESE DUDES ARE SERIOUSLY BAD MEN. This is could be a radical change of direction globally and only proves the US, RUSSA, and CHINA run e v e r y b o d y. This is going to be crazy probably 

thats da problem,

Democrats & Republican establishments were too busy trying to be citizens of da world instead of public servants of Americans.

da era of globalization is coming to a screeching halt. da E.U. is imploding and da US wasn't trying to lose their sovereignty to BS like TPP and da Translantic trade pact.
 
I looked a bit into it and the Ryan paper from June did talk about including pre-existing conditions. This is essentially a point that R congressmen have also said they "liked about Obamacare".

They believe they can make up for the mandate through longer insurance contracts, late enrollment penalties, and other mechanisms.

http://abetterway.speaker.gov/_assets/pdf/ABetterWay-HealthCare-PolicyPaper.pdf

So a "its not a mandate, but it is a mandate" :lol

-And dude straight up says they want to privatize Medicare in here. I wonder how he will try to see this. No one makes Pual Ryna's polices sound worst than Paul Ryan speaks about them
 
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I looked a bit into it and the Ryan paper from June did talk about including pre-existing conditions. This is essentially a point that R congressmen have also said they "liked about Obamacare".

They believe they can make up for the mandate through longer insurance contracts, late enrollment penalties, and other mechanisms.

http://abetterway.speaker.gov/_assets/pdf/ABetterWay-HealthCare-PolicyPaper.pdf

this thing doesn't make much sense to me and is pretty vague at key points.

for example, two things are complete at odds with each other, they say that they want to limit federal involvement in healthcare policy and return the power to the states.


but they ALSO want allow insurance to be sold across stat lines.


wut?

If insurance is sold across state lines, insurance providers all move to the states with the laxest laws, like corporations do with Delaware, the only way to prevent this is to have the federal goverment get MORE involved in setting national health care regulations.
 
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thats da problem,

Democrats & Republican establishments were too busy trying to be citizens of da world instead of public servants of Americans.

da era of globalization is coming to a screeching halt. da E.U. is imploding and da US wasn't trying to lose their sovereignty to BS like TPP and da Translantic trade pact.
They don't make those trade pacts and cooperate with other countries because they'd rather work internationally than with their own people,

they do it to deter nuclear war. 

People forget what's happened and how things were in the past because it drifts so far away from right now. The UN, the European Union, are improved versions of the league of nations and they were created because people at that time knew we needed them
 
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umm sorry to break it to u, he said da same thing last February during da GOP primary debates...on TV no less.

No sweat off my back. My health and dental is already covered at no cost. Those who need it will still benefit from it.
 
told ya they had a plan....da "perception of flip-flop" is unfounded.

da real test for Trump is if that repatriated money from overseas goes to immediate jobs manufacturing incentives programs to spur growth.
 


They don't make those trade pacts and cooperate with other countries because they'd rather work internationally than with their own people,
they do it to deter nuclear war. 
People forget what's happened and how things were in the past because it drifts so far away from right now. The UN, the European Union, are improved versions of the league of nations and they were created because people at that time knew we needed them

we can't afford to placate other countries with lopsided trade deals that suck away our jobs because da globalist Brussels UN crowd wants to make sure other countries aren't acting like savages.
 
I really don't know anything about Ryan's private medicare deal and maybe it's just me but it sounds too complicated to be politically feasible even w/ all the power republicans have right now.

Here is some reporting on what GOP is saying about repeal vs amend: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/obamacare-repeal-more-like-reform-caitlin-owens?published=t

No, it won't answer any questions about pre-exist w/o mandate.

edit: also found, Donald Trump Is Right: You Can Repeal Obamacare And Still Cover Everyone With Pre-Existing Conditions

Requiring insurers to offer insurance coverage to people with pre-existing conditions is trivial, in fact. Everyone who gets insurance through their employer had such protections prior to Obamacare.

The important question isn’t whether you offer coverage to those with pre-existing conditions. It’s how much that coverage costs. Insurers are more than happy to cover sick people, so long as they get paid back in premiums in proportion to how much those costlier patients incur.

In addition, contrary to Democratic talking points, very few people are uninsured because they have a pre-existing condition. A pre-Obamacare Congressional Budget Office study found that, of those who are uninsured, only 3.5 percent were uninsured because their health was too poor to qualify. On the other hand, 71 percent said they were uninsured because of the high cost of insurance.

So a replacement for Obamacare can quite easily guarantee coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. The key is to provide the right level of financial assistance to sicker people whose coverage costs more. That can be done through direct premium assistance, in the form of tax credits, as proposed in my own reform proposal, Transcending Obamacare.
 
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More personal attacks but no valid argument for the black community

How have democrats helped the black community over the past 28 years? Please respond.
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We here now. #TrumpSet 
 
Even Deray denouncing BLM and threatening not to vote for the democrats in the future 
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even his pay for play *** recognizing the liberal jig 
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Thankful Roy Cooper defeated McCrory tho 
 
we can't afford to placate other countries with lopsided trade deals that suck away our jobs because da globalist Brussels UN crowd wants to make sure other countries aren't acting like savages.
we'll definitely see what happens!
 


They don't make those trade pacts and cooperate with other countries because they'd rather work internationally than with their own people,
they do it to deter nuclear war. 
People forget what's happened and how things were in the past because it drifts so far away from right now. The UN, the European Union, are improved versions of the league of nations and they were created because people at that time knew we needed them

This. This. This.

The EU, the UN, NATO exist as stabilizing entities in a world where armed conflict is a tool of competition.

The world before those alliances was extremely chaotic; countries were signing protection pacts left and right and declared wars at the drop of a hat.

I'm not trying to go back to that, especially when you consider our ability to kill. In 1914, they were fighting on horses; nowadays you don't even see the mfer that drones your ***.
 
paradise50 paradise50

You don't know what you have until you lose it.

BTW, the only times the house, senate, and white house were controlled by republicans were in 1928 and 2006, the years before the great depression (1929) and the great recession (2007). Looks like we're due for another one...
 
Y'all know the next 4 years is gonna be ninja rationalizing and spinning Donald's administration policies, laws, and other agendas :lol

I can already see it.


You know what really happened is that Trump and the Far Right ran a coup on the U.S government.  They suppressed the black vote, manipulated the media, used the FBI to October Suprise Hillary, etc.  It would have been just a Trump coup if he won only but that FBI **** gave them the house too.  The Right went from likely barely controlling the House to controlling the presidency, senate, house, and supreme court. Obama was playing checkers with the supreme court and didn't realize it. he was doing late night TV shows still thinking Trump had no chance to win and the FBI director he appointed ******* detonated all their plans and his legacy. He got played hard in this as well.
After they wouldn't give his SC nominee a hearing Obama was done. He had checked out with one foot out the door. The last work he had to do was campaign for Trillary.

There was no checkers being played. Just more of the same blocking being done by the right for the past 6 years. In his mind, in the best case scenario this would all be Clinton's problem especially given even Republicans didn't think Donald had a chance.
 
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