***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[MVP]

Not surprising that nonsense is peddling mis-information, but there were strict voter ID laws put in place in Wisconsin from last election. Could have something to do with why specifically why Milwaukee (the largest black population in the state) had a severe drop in turnout from 2012. Also Michigan implemented photo ID laws that aren't as strict bit still requested.

Here's a map.

The red are states that require photo ID to vote (strict)

The bright orange are states that request photo ID to vote (non-strict)

The dark blue are states that non-photo ID are required (strict)

The light blue are states that non-photo ID is requested (non-strict)

The gray states are where no ID is required to vote.

So out of the states he and Reacho are talking about only Pennsylvania has no voter ID laws. And NC is gray only because those laws were overturned by a judge this past July. And those by almost all judicial pundits were going to be by far the toughest in the nation.

 

[rico x hood]

Because Dems were too ***** to go against the machine. It was her turn. Same way the GOP felt it was Jeb's turn. Until Trump blew **** up. The GOP picked up on the anger the country was feeling due to the Obama economy so they moved right. The idiot Dems thought clearly were blind and ran with him because they thought his 1% uptick in approval actually meant something.

Should have went with O'Marlley.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Clinton's problem is not that a majority of Americans rejected her vision for America.

It has nothing to do with a rejection of political correctness.


It's distribution.



I SAID this BEFORE the election, the problem with the Clinton coalition is that Latino's don't live in swing states, Donald Trump needed a not impossible polling error to get it done and he got it.



She won the popular vote by nearly 2 million, bigger margin than Nixon in 1968, Kennedy in 1960.

They made a reasonable bet on some bad data and took an L.



The Democratic party as machine is whats broken, they have no idea how to take, their dominant cultural position and turn it into a dominant political position. They need to build their political operation in a more ruthless fashion.

 

[MVP]

I don't think we'll ever know, but I don't think if it was anybody other than Drumpf that the GOP would have won. The whole outsider nationalist pitch was unique and something not seen since the late 60s. Kasich, Rubio, Bush, etc. weren't peddling his nonsense that resonated with the white voter so much.

Do the Dems have to get back to the basics yes, but like you stated the majority of the country still believes in their message, but in critical areas either hated the messenger or just bought what Drumpf was selling hook, line, and sinker. Just as Obama was a once in a generation candidate for the Dems, Drumpf seems to have been thar for a particular segment of the GOP.

 

[rico x hood]

No. They need to stop trying to court and cobble together unreliable voters and go for people that actually vote. Blacks, gays, environmentalists and young people will ALWAYS be consistent democrat voters. They just need a couple scraps come election time. Dems need to start going after working class. Start propping up unions again. Focus on the economy and leave all that SJW **** on the back burner.

 

[ninjahood]

Because Dems were too ***** to go against the machine. It was her turn. Same way the GOP felt it was Jeb's turn. Until Trump blew **** up.

Trump toppled da Bush & Clinton Dynasties in one election season :x

 

[everysingletime]

Damn I feel like if Trump said 'Let's gas all the Muslims' ninja wouldn't say anything, he'd be cool with that too

 

[MVP]

No. They need to stop trying to court and cobble together unreliable voters and go for people that actually vote. Blacks, gays, environmentalists and young people will ALWAYS be consistent democrat voters. They just need a couple scraps come election time. Dems need to start going after working class. Start propping up unions again. Focus on the economy and leave all that SJW **** on the back burner.

By working class do you mean white people or all working class voters? Cause population trends are having minorities make up more and more of that sector each election cycle. They'll actually be the majority of the working class within the next 20 years.

 

[shatterkneesinc]

The days of establishment politics are over

Bernie would have blown Don out.

More people voted for romney than Don.

Hil and dems deserved to lose.

 

[ninjahood]

Damn I feel like if Trump said 'Let's gas all the Muslims' ninja wouldn't say anything, he'd be cool with that too

*sigh* imma enjoy liberals being irrelevant for da rest of my generation [emoji]128522[/emoji][emoji]128522[/emoji][emoji]128522[/emoji]

voter rights laws are going to require a ID sooner or later da way Supreme court is gonna go. suggest ya have one.

 

[gry60]

https://thinkprogress.org/mcconnell-admits-jobs-war-on-coal-8938da18e5e3#.tzhbq0gnu

Looks like McConnell is turning into a smug liberal coastal elite.

Now that his endorsed presidential candidate is poised to deregulate energy, McConnell has already changed his tune.
In a Friday appearance at the University of Louisville, he tamped down any expectations that coal jobs would come back. “We are going to be presenting to the new president a variety of options that could end this assault,” McConnell told attendees. Then he added “Whether that immediately brings business back is hard to tell because it’s a private sector activity.”
McConnell also noted that he did not intend to spend any government dollars to help those who have lost coal jobs and may not regain them. “A government spending program is not likely to solve the fundamental problem of growth,” McConnell argued. “I support the effort to help these coal counties wherever we can but that isn’t going to replace whatever was there when we had a vibrant coal industry.”

Thank you for your vote Blue collar people. Now find the closest cemetary, lay there, and hope that death picks you up by the end of the day.

Dummies.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

No. They need to stop trying to court and cobble together unreliable voters and go for people that actually vote. Blacks, gays, environmentalists and young people will ALWAYS be consistent democrat voters. They just need a couple scraps come election time. Dems need to start going after working class. Start propping up unions again. Focus on the economy and leave all that SJW **** on the back burner.

1. "SJW" is a term that 16 year old white guys and Ninjahood argue with each other on the internet.

If you are talking about divirsity rhetoric, I was thinking that they would go back to the right on that, but after thinking about it more it doesn't make sense. In a majority-minority nation, the way the demographics are, it's tough to make that happen.

Anyone who doesn't address minority issues will get beat in the primary.


Bernie lost to Hilary because he lost minorities.



Many republican policies are broadly unpopular, repealing obamacare, privatizing medicare, social security, tax cuts for the rich, it won't actually be that hard for democrats to in them back in 4 or 8 years.

 

[MVP]

The days of establishment politics are over

Bernie would have blown Don out.

More people voted for romney than Don.

Hil and dems deserved to lose.

There's no way to know if Bernie would have won or not. Would he have had a better chance of winning the rust belt states, sure, looking at it now, but it wasn't exclusively the economic promises that resonated with those voters, the nationalist element was a factor as well.

He wasn't exactly able to get minority votes in the primary so states that were close wins for Hillary like VA could have still flipped as well because of that.
And you know who else got more votes than Don, Hillary did, by 2 million.

 

[a-friend]

That is ridiculous position to have.

Things changed under ever president if you know the issues.

Trump possibly screwing over people is gratifying because you just want to see something pop off.

Things change? Things change you say, but I'm rediculous.
That has to be the most....meh.
Why bother, you just pump the fear bro. Stay trivial.

 

[rolaholic]

"SJW" has become the favorite buzzword for the same alt-right clowns who have hijacked the word "****"

@EHolmesWSJ: Trump "is talking with his advisers about how many nights a week he will spend in the White House."
https://t.co/6aOoSLPLvv

All of them no? This isn't a part time gig

 

[ninjahood]

https://thinkprogress.org/mcconnell-admits-jobs-war-on-coal-8938da18e5e3#.tzhbq0gnu

Looks like McConnell is turning into a smug liberal coastal elite.

Now that his endorsed presidential candidate is poised to deregulate energy, McConnell has already changed his tune.
In a Friday appearance at the University of Louisville, he tamped down any expectations that coal jobs would come back. “We are going to be presenting to the new president a variety of options that could end this assault,” McConnell told attendees. Then he added “Whether that immediately brings business back is hard to tell because it’s a private sector activity.”
McConnell also noted that he did not intend to spend any government dollars to help those who have lost coal jobs and may not regain them. “A government spending program is not likely to solve the fundamental problem of growth,” McConnell argued. “I support the effort to help these coal counties wherever we can but that isn’t going to replace whatever was there when we had a vibrant coal industry.”

Thank you for your vote Blue collar people. Now find the closest cemetary, lay there, and hope that death picks you up by the end of the day.

Dummies.

think progress links silly liberals...

 

[Based Jesus]

Damn I feel like if Trump said 'Let's gas all the Muslims' ninja wouldn't say anything, he'd be cool with that too

As long as Apu at da gas station keeps putting da right amount of gas in da hemi

 

[osh kosh bosh]

The days of establishment politics are over

Bernie would have blown Don out.

More people voted for romney than Don.

Hil and dems deserved to lose.

but..he...lost..in the...primary.



This what you aren't seeing and what I wasn't seeing post election. Any white populist candidate is getting beat in the primary if they don't address minority issues.

 

[ninjahood]

Hillary needed super delegates to get her passed da finish line... she couldn't of won without it.

it would've gone to a contested convention.

 

[MVP]

*sigh* imma enjoy liberals being irrelevant for da rest of my generation [emoji]128522[/emoji][emoji]128522[/emoji][emoji]128522[/emoji]

voter rights laws are going to require a ID sooner or later da way Supreme court is gonna go. suggest ya have one.

So you admit you were wrong about MI and WI?

As far as the super delegate system was it implemented just for this primary season or nah? That same system was the one that lost Hillary the primary in 2008. It's not like Bernie was unaware how things worked.

 

[ninjahood]

*sigh* imma enjoy liberals being irrelevant for da rest of my generation [emoji]128522[/emoji][emoji]128522[/emoji][emoji]128522[/emoji]

voter rights laws are going to require a ID sooner or later da way Supreme court is gonna go. suggest ya have one.

So you admit you were wrong about MI and WI?

no, cuz no such laws were in Michigan or Pennsylvania... Democrats haven't loss those since da 80's

da time for Democratic self reflection starts now.

 

[heatpinoyboy]

November 11, 2016
A Message to the Penn Community
from
President Amy Gutmann,
Provost Vincent Price and Executive Vice President Craig Carnaroli
Regarding Racist Messages to Penn Students

"We are absolutely appalled that earlier today Black freshman students at Penn were added to a racist GroupMe account that appears to be based in Oklahoma. The account itself is totally repugnant: it contains violent, racist and thoroughly disgusting images and messages. This is simply deplorable. Our police and information security staff are trying to locate the exact source and to determine if any steps can be taken to block the account. Staff in the Office of Vice Provost for University Life are working nonstop with us and our students to determine exactly who has been targeted and how many, and we are doing everything in our power to provide the necessary support and will continue to do so. The University is also taking every step possible to address both the source of the racist material and the impact it has had on Black students on campus.

This is absolutely vile material and completely offensive to everyone on our campus. We are both angry and saddened that it was directed to our students or to anyone. The people responsible for this are reprehensible. We have increased campus safety and are reaching out to support the affected students in every way we can, and want them to know that the entire Penn community stands with them.

We must reiterate how absolutely essential it is to the core values of our community, and also to the well-being of our society and world, that all persons be treated with the dignity and respect they deserve. The racism of this GroupMe message is profoundly inimical to what we stand for as a university. We will take every step possible to counteract its appalling bias. And we all stand together in solidarity with our Black students who have been so terribly targeted."

https://news.upenn.edu/statement-university-pennsylvania


My homie who is a Penn admin officer tells me it was damn near all of the Black freshman too

 

[gry60]

https://thinkprogress.org/mcconnell-admits-jobs-war-on-coal-8938da18e5e3#.tzhbq0gnu

Looks like McConnell is turning into a smug liberal coastal elite.

Now that his endorsed presidential candidate is poised to deregulate energy, McConnell has already changed his tune.
In a Friday appearance at the University of Louisville, he tamped down any expectations that coal jobs would come back. “We are going to be presenting to the new president a variety of options that could end this assault,” McConnell told attendees. Then he added “Whether that immediately brings business back is hard to tell because it’s a private sector activity.”
McConnell also noted that he did not intend to spend any government dollars to help those who have lost coal jobs and may not regain them. “A government spending program is not likely to solve the fundamental problem of growth,” McConnell argued. “I support the effort to help these coal counties wherever we can but that isn’t going to replace whatever was there when we had a vibrant coal industry.”

Thank you for your vote Blue collar people. Now find the closest cemetary, lay there, and hope that death picks you up by the end of the day.

Dummies.

think progress links silly liberals...

Whether you admit you were wrong or not doesn't matter to me. I'll just watch the ****show unfold from my ivory tower with all my teeth out[emoji]128513[/emoji][emoji]128513[/emoji][emoji]128513[/emoji][emoji]128513[/emoji][emoji]128513[/emoji]

You got got. Let's see how many more campaign promises get broken before he actually gets sworn in.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Hillary needed super delegates to get her passed da finish line... she couldn't of won without it.

it would've gone to a contested convention.

Just so Bernie fans know, this is unfortunately is untrue.


It;s toguht but you can accept the L knowing that Bernie constituents are the future of the party.

 

[ninjahood]

Hillary needed super delegates to get her passed da finish line... she couldn't of won without it.

it would've gone to a contested convention.

Just so Bernie fans know, this is unfortunately is untrue.

what part of Hillary's needing superdelegates to win isn't true?