***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[osh kosh bosh]

Trump and the republicans really might pull this off, use bull **** cultre war distractions to kilee medicare and medicade.

and the media is playing right into theor hands.

 

[whywesteppin]

they're going after the pockets of the middle class. which should destroy their chances in future elections. something is gonna give.

but for now his supporters deserve to lose financially and with their health care. that's the only way they'll learn.

 

[ninjahood]

if u would've picked any coal stock on November 8th by today it would've been a richer man.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/305209-coal-stocks-soar-after-trump-win

You should put a good amount of money into their stock and leave it for a few years! See how it goes!

im talking quick flips b, yeezys to a sucka status

 

[harlemtothebronx]

if u would've picked any coal stock on November 8th by today it would've been a richer man.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/305209-coal-stocks-soar-after-trump-win

You should put a good amount of money into their stock and leave it for a few years! See how it goes!

im talking quick flips b, yeezys to a sucka status

In all seriousness though, why not invest some money? I've been taking a few courses trying to get more comfortable.

If you think you have a good idea where the market is going, you could make a ton more than a yeezy flip.

 

[Belgium]

In all seriousness though, why not invest some money? I've been taking a few courses trying to get more comfortable.

If you think you have a good idea where the market is going, you could make a ton more than a yeezy flip.

I'm not well versed in stock trading either but in my line of work I take a lot of payments in Bitcoin so I use Bitcoin as an investment.

Made a few losses but I've made enough big wins for a sizeable profit. One time I had around $800 stashed in my BTC wallet and the bitcoin price shot up and my $800 turned into almost $2000. 

It's a rather risky investment though if you're not familiar with bitcoin.

 

[hennessy]

if u would've picked any coal stock on November 8th by today it would've been a richer man.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/305209-coal-stocks-soar-after-trump-win

You should put a good amount of money into their stock and leave it for a few years! See how it goes!

im talking quick flips b, yeezys to a sucka status

Quick flips in the stock market with the economic knowledge you've portrayed?

Something for you to consider... If you are in a tax bracket above 15% (which I'm sure you are), then your long-term capital gains are taxed at a rate that is lower than your ordinary rate. If, however, you sell an investment that you have held for a year or less, the gains are taxed at your regular rate.

Before you sell an investment for a gain, it can help to consider when you bought it. At the very least you want to reduce what you pay in taxes.

So go ahead and make your "quick flips" and see how those short term high risks investments, which are subjected to a higher tax rate, work out for you. Not that you have the knowledge, foresight, or investment vehicles in place to do so. It's pretty easy to read an article about stocks going up and say, "welp, should've invested." I reccomend you stick to just that, regurgitating articles. We all know you are a man of words, not actions.

When the stock market is shot during Trump's presidency I will be maxing out my contributions into my index funds which match the performance of the S&P 500. The recovery and return when his term is up will be

 

[harlemtothebronx]

In all seriousness though, why not invest some money? I've been taking a few courses trying to get more comfortable.


If you think you have a good idea where the market is going, you could make a ton more than a yeezy flip.

I'm not well versed in stock trading either but in my line of work I take a lot of payments in Bitcoin so I use Bitcoin as an investment.
Made a few losses but I've made enough big wins for a sizeable profit. One time I had around $800 stashed in my BTC wallet and the bitcoin price shot up and my $800 turned into almost $2000. 
It's a rather risky investment though if you're not familiar with bitcoin.

It seems like you're getting in on the ground floor, though. I'd love to play with it a bit, but with life and my retirement plans I don't really have the room right now.

But honestly I only see it growing. I'm seeing bitcoin ATMs at Delis all over the place now. I don't know much about the whole economy and how it works, though. Definitely gotta take the time to educate myself on that.

Right now I'm looking at diversifying and taking some risks now that I'm young. Just not sure how to take advantage of the whatever Donald Trump is about to do.

When the stock market is shot during Trump's presidency I will be maxing out my contributions into my index funds which match the performance of the S&P 500. The recovery and return when his term is up will be

Just the information I was looking for. You got any links to any info on how that works and why S&P? I've been considering my investment options, just wasn't sure which would be ideal.

 

[slighted]

 
Yo, Rosie is out of pocket with the tweet about Trump's son maybe having autism. Same with the weak justification for how it will bring awareness to autism. 

Has anyone come to her defense or nah?

 

[americangenius]

I'm not well versed in stock trading either but in my line of work I take a lot of payments in Bitcoin so I use Bitcoin as an investment.
Made a few losses but I've made enough big wins for a sizeable profit. One time I had around $800 stashed in my BTC wallet and the bitcoin price shot up and my $800 turned into almost $2000. 
It's a rather risky investment though if you're not familiar with bitcoin.

I think 2017 is the year for Bitcoin. The volume has been increasing nonstop, and a recent update to the technology will make it more useful than before.

In a time where currencies are volatile worldwide, people have started using it as a store of value. Can't hurt to own some, at this point it's been around for years.

 

[hennessy]

In all seriousness though, why not invest some money? I've been taking a few courses trying to get more comfortable.


If you think you have a good idea where the market is going, you could make a ton more than a yeezy flip.

I'm not well versed in stock trading either but in my line of work I take a lot of payments in Bitcoin so I use Bitcoin as an investment.
Made a few losses but I've made enough big wins for a sizeable profit. One time I had around $800 stashed in my BTC wallet and the bitcoin price shot up and my $800 turned into almost $2000. 
It's a rather risky investment though if you're not familiar with bitcoin.

It seems like you're getting in on the ground floor, though. I'd love to play with it a bit, but with life and my retirement plans I don't really have the room right now.

But honestly I only see it growing. I'm seeing bitcoin ATMs at Delis all over the place now. I don't know much about the whole economy and how it works, though. Definitely gotta take the time to educate myself on that.

Right now I'm looking at diversifying and taking some risks now that I'm young. Just not sure how to take advantage of the whatever Donald Trump is about to do.

When the stock market is shot during Trump's presidency I will be maxing out my contributions into my index funds which match the performance of the S&P 500. The recovery and return when his term is up will be

Just the information I was looking for. You got any links to any info on how that works and why S&P? I've been considering my investment options, just wasn't sure which would be ideal.

It works because the stock market has NEVER lost money over a 20 year period. None of this yeezy quick flip nonsense. That works better with valuable tangible goods because you minimize your risk. You can always sell for what you paid and recoup your initial investment. I got at least 20 years before I cash out my investments so I'm straight. When the stock market is doing poorly (I suspect it will with Trump), I increase my contributions (which are matched by my employer; my investments double. Buy low sell high. I've done the calculations and by investing 10% minimum of each paycheck, then having my employer match... By examining market trends I've calculated (safely) I will have at least $2M by the time the index funds are mature and I am ready for retirement. I will never have to worry about working past retirement age.

You should see how my investments have grown exponentially already since 09. With compounding effect it's just gonna get better. Blows my mind how rich I'm getting whenever I look at it Pr you can be like ninja and speculate/talk about quick flips while actually doing nothing but making layaway payments for near a decade on a Jesus piece. If you want more info how to invest wisely just ask the right people. Don't listen to ninja he's clueless.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Appreciate the info hennessy

That was just what I was wondering about as far as how stable the market would be. Didn't really know how to fully distinguish between my options.

Appreciate it. Gonna read up now.[emoji]128591[/emoji][emoji]127997[/emoji]

 

[hennessy]

Appreciate the info hennessy

That was just what I was wondering about as far as how stable the market would be. Didn't really know how to fully distinguish between my options.

Appreciate it. Gonna read up now.[emoji]128591[/emoji][emoji]127997[/emoji]

I invest in a portfolio of the following index funds. S fund mimics Dow Jones, C fund mimics S&P 500, I fund mimics international markets (diversified here to hedge against situations when US economy is down and international markets are up. The majority of my shares are are in S and C funds. I have 10-15% of my portfolio in I, just in case something wild happens domestically.

Here's the movement on the share prices of those funds from when I first started investing up until today.

Now keep in mind all of my contributions are matched by my employer so everytime I put money into these stocks I get 2x the amount of stocks.

If you aren't investing in retirement and you have a full time job with the option, you are losing in life.

 

[Belgium]

Guess da Donald forgot the supreme court ruled in 1989 that burning the flag is protected under the 1st amendment 

 

[Belgium]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-david-petraeus-231909

Surely the Trump supporters here will be fiercely opposed to Trump even considering someone who plead guilty to leaking classified information, right? 

 
Donald Trump said Hillary Clinton’s use of a private server for classified State Department emails made her unfit for high office. But that isn’t stopping him from considering David Petraeus, who pleaded guilty to knowingly leaking secret government files — and lying to the feds about it — for secretary of state.

Trump’s hourlong meeting Monday with Petraeus, a retired general and former CIA director, to discuss the Cabinet position is the latest in the president-elect’s outreach to retired military leaders who have clashed with President Barack Obama on foreign policy and national security.

But it also calls into question the sincerity of Trump’s stance on the importance of safeguarding the nation’s secrets, according to former government officials and intelligence experts — a stance that was driven home with campaign trail chants of “Lock her up.”

“The very consideration of Petraeus for a senior position reveals that the Trump campaign’s rhetoric regarding Hillary Clinton was totally bogus,” said Steven Aftergood, a specialist on government classification at the Federation of American Scientists. “Candidate Trump was generating hysteria over Clinton’s handling or mishandling of classified information that he likely never believed or took seriously himself.

“Petraeus admitted lying to the FBI, which distinguished his case from Clinton’s and made his case a good deal worse,” Aftergood added. “I think once again President-elect Trump is revealed as a rather hypocritical figure.”

Petraeus’ stint as head of the CIA came to ignominious end in 2012 when it was discovered he was having an extramarital affair with Paula Broadwell, his biographer, and had shared reams of classified information with her. He pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges and was sentenced to two years of probation and forced to pay a $40,000 fine. Investigators also claimed  that Petraeus separately shared classified information with journalists.

It is likely to be a major point of contention if he is nominated and faces confirmation by the Senate, where he has significant supporters but there is already some angst about having to grapple with his law-breaking.

A former senior intelligence official who was once Petraeus’ boss said he would not hire Petraeus for the top diplomatic post for several reasons, including that his professional experience has mostly been limited to military operations in the Middle East.

However, his leaking of classified information seems an obvious disqualifier, said the former spy, who spoke only on condition of anonymity.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

@ That growth. I've been investing since '10 and haven't moved anything any from stable. Minimal growth, minimal risk. Also have only about 10% allocated across two separate funds, so considering the match on one of my accounts I should really up my contribution and take the shot now. Hopefully I see similar growth over the next 7 years. I'll take 3/4 of that honestly.

 

[wavycrocket]

Trump supporters are applauding him considering Patreaus. Talking about "he's a good man". "He needs another chance".

**** those people man....

 

[hennessy]

@ That growth. I've been investing since '10 and haven't moved anything any from stable. Minimal growth, minimal risk. Also have only about 10% allocated across two separate funds, so considering the match on one of my accounts I should really up my contribution and take the shot now. Hopefully I see similar growth over the next 7 years. I'll take 3/4 of that honestly.

I made the same mistake my first couple of years. By default I had all my contributions going to a G fund. The G Fund's investment objective is to produce a rate of return that is higher than inflation while avoiding exposure to credit (default) risk and market price fluctuations. As a 19 year old, this was stupid. I can take the risk and market price fluctuations. I stopped investing in the G and I think I even transferred all of my shares over once I realized. As I get older, I will likely taper off my more risky investments in favor of an investment like the G fund.

You have plenty of time to invest in index funds assuming you're under 30. Even if you take some hits you'll bounce back as long as you don't panic and pull your money out.

 

[frshstunna]

Guess da Donald forgot the supreme court ruled in 1989 that burning the flag is protected under the 1st amendment 

His supporters luv to scream about rights , but they luv this kinda bs

 

[whywesteppin]

i want to burn a flag just to spite Donald.

what's he gonna do if the hundreds of millions of Americans who hate him go out and burn a flag tonight? i mean, he's burning the entire country, that traitorous orange *****.

 

[frink85]

First Mike Flynn now Petraeus, Donald loves guys who share classified info

In that case, Hilary byke?

 

[rolaholic]

Justin Trudeau is a clown for that Castro eulogy.

I'm not co-signing anything but just to play devils advocate, his father considered Castro to be a "friend" and Trudeau 2.0 was friends with the sons so that might explain the tone of his words.

I didn't really take them as him purposely glorifying what he did or anything like that. Moreso to acknowledge his father's relationship with them

Enough people felt the same way you feel though so he ended up canceling his trip to Havana to pay condolences

There's legit zero gray area when it comes to discussions about the man right now though I've noticed. You either think he's latin Hitler or he's a revered "freedom fighter"

 

[llerraj]

Why Jill Stein's recount effort has no credibility:

 

[llerraj]

 


Guess da Donald forgot the supreme court ruled in 1989 that burning the flag is protected under the 1st amendment 

Guess you forgot Hillary Clinton tried to do the same back in 2006.

 

[everysingletime]

they're going after the pockets of the middle class. which should destroy their chances in future elections. something is gonna give.

but for now his supporters deserve to lose financially and with their health care. that's the only way they'll learn.

I don't think anyone ever going to learn, b. I think this election has proved that ppl vote on who they like, instead of the issues. That's why stupid ppl being screwing themselves on Healthcare.

 

[llerraj]

I don't think anyone ever going to learn, b. I think this election has proved that ppl vote on who they like, instead of the issues. That's why stupid ppl being screwing themselves on Healthcare.

The ACA is a disaster and needs to be repealed specifically the employer mandate and the individual coverage mandates which are causing premiums to go up in addition to some insurers having a monopoly in some states.