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he won't give it up. he's tweeting again about sweden, trying to defend his blatant lies:

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Trump probably was referring to an interview with filmmaker Ami Horowitz on Fox News Channel's “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” which started circulating on social media shortly after Trump's speech in Florida. Horowitz has blamed refugees for what he says is a crime wave in Sweden. The filmmaker's claims have since come under scrutiny, as Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter reported Monday. Two Swedish police officers who were interviewed by Horowitz said that their comments had been taken out of context. One of them, Anders Göranzon, accused the filmmaker of being a “madman.”
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Overall, Sweden's average crime rate has fallen in recent years, Dörner said. That drop has been observed for cases of lethal violence and for sexual assaults, two of the most serious categories of crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...whats-happening-there/?utm_term=.7528c282d07c

@BahmanKalbas: .@reaDonaldTrump is right. There was a recent underreported attack in #Sweden. By neo-Nazis on a refugee centre

https://t.co/UgeB451kGp

Heh...
 
Russia's not that naive or shortsighted to think Trump would just walk in like Vince and start unilaterally changing things. We aren't Russia. The degradation of the US democratic foundation must be their play, along with destabilizing the world order. They've just got to knock down a couple countries in Europe (France, Germany) and they'll have more influence and power than in any other point in modern times. Putin about to be puppet master to some of the greatest powers, and no one can figure out how exactly he did it. (I'm not convinced he/the Kremlin didn't hack into some US systems during the election). Scary times brahs.
 
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Hopefully President Putin can get things moving forward in America. BEN CARSON PALMER 2020
 
Russia's not that naive or shortsighted to think Trump would just walk in like Vince and start unilaterally changing things. We aren't Russia. The degradation of the US democratic foundation must be their play, along with destabilizing the world order. They've just got to knock down a couple countries in Europe (France, Germany) and they'll have more influence and power than in any other point in modern times. Putin about to be puppet master to some of the greatest powers, and no one can figure out how exactly he did it. (I'm not convinced he/the Kremlin didn't hack into some US systems during the election). Scary times brahs.
You don't need to the hack the election when got some people brainwashed in the Trump propaganda already
 
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Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist... but the margin of victory is just too close. I just cannot wrap my head around 3 key swing states having such a close margin of victory. Maybe they didn't hack anything though. That'd be tough. What would be easy is to implant Russian actors into ballot halls to help ensure Drumpf gets his. We know what Manafort can do, we know Flynn was a Russian ally, that there's possibly dozens more in the current administration working to allay Russian interests... is it farfetched to think Russia altered the results of the election? (Srs question. Let me know if I'm just thinking crazy because I'm too depressed to accept the reality that is 2017)
 
Nah, the wikileaks was their play and having the allies that are on the opposition helped w/ that. You can't deliberately hack the election because you don't know what the fallout would be. You plant a field of seeds, water them, and allow the whole political process of this country provide sunlight. I'm sure Putin and everyone else knows that this country is racist, corrupt, and anti-women so you play to those.

Everyone knows that the two parties do what they can to support their own and by acting in their own nature, they played into their hands. Any smart person would tell you the Dems would push Hillary to the ends of the earth (shouts to Kyrie) and do what they did to fight Bernie from becoming the nominee. Had that backfired, the battle would have been to make Bernie seem bad but you can't really play the Socialism card that much.

Or maybe I'm thinking too much into it.
 
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Well all I know is that the dude who is trying to lead the Caliexit movement is a Russian plant
 
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist... but the margin of victory is just too close. I just cannot wrap my head around 3 key swing states having such a close margin of victory. Maybe they didn't hack anything though. That'd be tough. What would be easy is to implant Russian actors into ballot halls to help ensure Drumpf gets his. We know what Manafort can do, we know Flynn was a Russian ally, that there's possibly dozens more in the current administration working to allay Russian interests... is it farfetched to think Russia altered the results of the election? (Srs question. Let me know if I'm just thinking crazy because I'm too depressed to accept the reality that is 2017)

The 2000 election was decided by 537 votes (btw, Jeb Bush was trying to suppress the black vote in the state before the election too). the 2016 election was not hacked.

People, especially those on the left, need to cut it out with the voter apathy and wasting votes in Green Party candidates in swing and purple states.
 
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist... but the margin of victory is just too close. I just cannot wrap my head around 3 key swing states having such a close margin of victory. Maybe they didn't hack anything though. That'd be tough. What would be easy is to implant Russian actors into ballot halls to help ensure Drumpf gets his. We know what Manafort can do, we know Flynn was a Russian ally, that there's possibly dozens more in the current administration working to allay Russian interests... is it farfetched to think Russia altered the results of the election? (Srs question. Let me know if I'm just thinking crazy because I'm too depressed to accept the reality that is 2017)

The 2000 election was decided by 537 votes (btw, Jeb Bush was trying to suppress the black vote in the state before the election too). the 2016 election was not hacked.

People, especially those on the left, need to cut it out with the voter apathy and wasting votes in Green Party candidates in swing and purple states.
I was still young when the 2000 vote happened, and never really dove into the election outrage, just knew Florida had recounts and it took forever to get it nailed down. Crazy.

Agreed on the left needing to chill with Green party and writein votes. Who knows how many Harambe votes came out of Michigan :{
 
Well in that case the Dems need to listen to their constituents and stop thinking they know what's best for everyone while ignoring key issues. People are fed up w/ the crap and to their disadvantage, those who usually vote Democrat have a brain to think for themselves for the most, which is a hindrance to the party.

Furthermore, they need to grow a spine when dealing w/ the GOP, at this point, trying to be the "bigger person" is a moot point when being that person cripples your party and the people who support you.
 
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