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I've kind of underrated the importance of candidates who wouldn't win still being quite useful if they can bring certain issues/policies to the forefront that the leading candidate(s) might not see as equally important.
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Anyone else would be a blessing in 2020 in comparison to right now tbf
Would definitely be interesting having someone like Holder in the mix as it could push all the civil rights rollbacks under the new regime to the forefront of the Dem race debate,I'm all for having every flavor of Liberal/folks from all walks of the base in the mix in 2020.
Don't see the need in telling folks to pre-emprively be quiet when the race is so far out and nothing's even been set in stone in regards to him actually running and the platform though
The vitriol needs to be aimed at the actual enemy in power right now instead of enemies of primaries past IMO
My words don't come close to what is beginning did out there my the far left. Let's us not act like it is the Bernie crowd being welcoming of all flavors of Dem. The purity teat have already began. Eric Holder has been attached by this crowd for years.
And what vitriol? I'm basically saying not to attack a fellow Democrat for their own good. And you're telling me to hold back on the one faction that cares the least about unity. Maybe it is time they hear the hard truth.
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I don't speak for Bernie bros so I can't speak on their attacks on dude but just saying that keeping up the pissing contest that's been going on within the left since the election isn't help anyone but Republicans.
Demonizing and attacking the other, whether coming from Bern bros or moderates, only works to further polarize the party while keeping all sides on the defensive instead of focusing on the common ground which does exist between them to try to move past the election L's and towards W's in the midterms. The infighting is counterproductive
My point wasn't specific to just you or any side in particular tbf,just in general after noticing the huge chasm that's opened up within the Dem base after I initially thought Drumpf would be the great unifier for the left. Boy was I dead wrong
. I see flame wars literally every single day between Hillary and Bernie folks,it's not getting Dems anywhere they're not already in (out of power)
Demonizing and attacking the other, whether coming from Bern bros or moderates, only works to further polarize the party while keeping all sides on the defensive instead of focusing on the common ground which does exist between them to try to move past the election L's and towards W's in the midterms. The infighting is counterproductive
My point wasn't specific to just you or any side in particular tbf,just in general after noticing the huge chasm that's opened up within the Dem base after I initially thought Drumpf would be the great unifier for the left. Boy was I dead wrong
. I see flame wars literally every single day between Hillary and Bernie folks,it's not getting Dems anywhere they're not already in (out of power)
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Not making excuses for either side,they're both in the wrong imo. The mud slinging can resume when there's a primary, in the meantime, a united opposition to the **** show in power is desperately needed. Might be too naive of me in this hyper polarized climate though *shrug*
On another, fairly unsurprising note...
Putin for sure has dirt on their leadership,those RNC hacks didn't happen for nothing
*shrug*On another, fairly unsurprising note...
Putin for sure has dirt on their leadership
,those RNC hacks didn't happen for nothing
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Average Joes whom don't give a crap about their health but are forced to pay ACA taxes just because they had taxable income.
You may think it's not a bunch of these type of taxpayers but there are....
I am not here to argue the pros and cons of the ACA... I am giving you a valid reason on why Americans would support this health care bill.
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Dude as always, it seems like you have an issue at the target of my post, because the content of it is being ignored
For damn months before and after the election I have been preaching about coming together. My post was about getting a progressive nominated, I wrote a long post about that. It was not to to a shot at them, it was saying they need to help themselves and welcome Holder into the race. It was about strategy. You can say it was more than my comment but your conflating my comment with other nonsense going on.
Secondly your setting up a false equalency. There are not Hillary diehards running around instigating, you just have a groups of liberals tired of the petulence from a small minority. The center left media, doesn't dedicated near the amount of time attacking Bernie as the far left media still dedicated to attacking mainstream Dems. The center left does not slurp Hillary like the far left does to Bernie.
It doesn't go both ways. One side is fueling it. It has always been mostly one side
For damn months before and after the election I have been preaching about coming together. My post was about getting a progressive nominated, I wrote a long post about that. It was not to to a shot at them, it was saying they need to help themselves and welcome Holder into the race. It was about strategy. You can say it was more than my comment but your conflating my comment with other nonsense going on.
Secondly your setting up a false equalency. There are not Hillary diehards running around instigating, you just have a groups of liberals tired of the petulence from a small minority. The center left media, doesn't dedicated near the amount of time attacking Bernie as the far left media still dedicated to attacking mainstream Dems. The center left does not slurp Hillary like the far left does to Bernie.
It doesn't go both ways. One side is fueling it. It has always been mostly one side
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All of this CROOKED Holder 2020 talk is just a distraction from Benjamin's 2020 run fam. BENJAMIN will bridge the gap between LIBBIE SNOWFLAKES and Real Americans. He'll tackle "climate change" with FAX and COAL. He'll change LIBBIE mindsets on health care and we will all flourish.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/21/trump-congressional-black-caucus-239785
Out of nowhere, a spine appears!
Out of nowhere, a spine appears!
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Not trying to create a false equivalency cause I'm not cosigning any of that stuff from other left leaning media outlets either. IMO, they have their own agenda and vested interest in wanting to keep things divided to make their money which I don't support myself. Literally just wanna see a decent and strong enough opposition to win back the mechanisms required for actual checks and balances next year. That's my main agenda,folks can't really have the luxury of sticking to their ideological guns when they're not even at the table imo.
The folks attacking Holder from the jump would be at the least, misguided to ignore the implications of what having him in the race would mean to the discourse surrounding social justice in favor of vaguely proclaiming him a "shill". I'd also feel the same way about others attacking self described progressives strictly due to whatever ill feelings they may harbor towards Bernie (not aimed at you btw,I see this all the time online)
Like I keep saying, I'm not trying to minimize any damage being done from either side so I don't care who's assigned the blame for starting the toxic climate,none of it is conducive to winning in my eyes.
All it does is shut down/out any capacity for compromise on either side when they're both always on the defensive
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Not really a spine. They just seen this finesse move before
Dudes like Ellison and Lewis not gonna play themselves like that.
Waters might roll up in there and ask Trump where is he hiding the tapes on camera
Dudes like Ellison and Lewis not gonna play themselves like that.
Waters might roll up in there and ask Trump where is he hiding the tapes on camera
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/21/trump-congressional-black-caucus-239785
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When will DAPPER Don realize that BENJAMIN needs to sign any invitations man?
CBC's reaction when receiving an invite from Orochimaru
CBC's reaction when receiving an invite from Barson.
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Fool me once...
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@ that sign off These dudes really think they're running a monarchy/Kings court
Guess they're not that far off with the way things are being run,he'd be more like the Mad King though
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Conway in the back with the court jester hat@ that sign off
These dudes really think they're running a monarchy/Kings court
Guess they're not that far off with the way things are being run,he'd be more like the Mad King though
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I can't wait until
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/21/trump-congressional-black-caucus-239785
Out of nowhere, a spine appears!
These dudes really think they're running a monarchy/Kings court
Guess they're not that far off with the way things are being run,he'd be more like the Mad King though
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Spicey needs to get his Jamie Lannister on before he bounces
But to be honest, famb got the intelligent of Mace Tryrell but less balls than Varys
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now they can move all the coal miners, they promised jobs to. There fixed
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The coal miners wouldn't do it. They would complain of the low wages for crap hours and wish to earn that black lung instead.
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Mike Flynn = Kingslayer? 
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BENJAMIN = Jonathan Snow. King of HUD soon to be King of USA.
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Mike Flynn = Kingslayer?
Flynn bout to be the new Lancel, and the FBI is the faith militant
When Flynn shows up to a Senate hearing with a star cut into his forehead, just know he flipped and about to snitch
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You talking the joke too far now brah
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These dudes are never held accountable by their base for lying and being straight up hypocrites. They let them get away with anything
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Was listening to Washington journal this morning, and the amount of people who repeated the lie that Obamacare was "done in the dark and behind closed doors" was staggering. I'm not surprised one bit
I know its crazy with all this but
Don't let that distract you from the fact that In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Team.
Don't let that distract you from the fact that In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Team.
