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Sure, but I think you would agree that the fascists are not the ones to lead it.
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The fascists..... oh christ...anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbin is a fascist to you guys.
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The opposition in Venezuela is far-right, these aren't simply center-leftist who want to privatize the oil.
And
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I would agree, that is why all the Chavistas doing buffoonery need to get out the paint as well.
Left wing corruption and Right wing corruption are both vile.
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No disagreement there.
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The Venezuelan left were the ones who broke the 1899 border agreement in the first place. Democratic Action (the party in power in 1962) were much more left at that time than they are now. It was the Venezuelan left who backed the Rupununi Uprising. Maduro is the one whipping up the controversy and not adhereing in good faith the UN brokered peace process. So spare me the Saint. Chavez bull.The opposition in Venezuela is far-right, these aren't simply center-leftist who want to privatize the oil.
Andif you think they are going to any better IRT to the Guyanese border conflict than the Chavez regime.
The Venezuelan center and right are much more concerned about growing the economy...and they know war and invasion is bad for business (not to mention they've more or less dropped the subject). Only the left brings up the border issue to stir nationalism and distract from their failures.
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So they're just going to ignore those oil reserves in disputed territory against a country that is 4 times smaller and has not even half of its population?The Venezuelan left were the ones who broke the 1899 border agreement in the first place. Democratic Action (the party in power in 1962) were much more left at that time than they are now. It was the Venezuelan left who backed the Rupununi Uprising. Maduro is the one whipping up the controversy and not adhereing in good faith the UN brokered peace process. So spare me the Saint. Chavez bull.The opposition in Venezuela is far-right, these aren't simply center-leftist who want to privatize the oil.
Andif you think they are going to any better IRT to the Guyanese border conflict than the Chavez regime.
The Venezuelan center and right are much more concerned about growing the economy...and they know war and invasion is bad for business (not to mention they've more or less dropped the subject). Only the left brings up the border issue to stir nationalism and distract from their failures.
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Yep. The economic and political cost to capture the territory would make it not worth it. They'd have to invade, and hold Guyanese land against American, British, and Brazilian troops.So they're just going to ignore those oil reserves in disputed territory against a country that is 4 times smaller and has not even half of its population?The Venezuelan left were the ones who broke the 1899 border agreement in the first place. Democratic Action (the party in power in 1962) were much more left at that time than they are now. It was the Venezuelan left who backed the Rupununi Uprising. Maduro is the one whipping up the controversy and not adhereing in good faith the UN brokered peace process. So spare me the Saint. Chavez bull.The opposition in Venezuela is far-right, these aren't simply center-leftist who want to privatize the oil.
Andif you think they are going to any better IRT to the Guyanese border conflict than the Chavez regime.
The Venezuelan center and right are much more concerned about growing the economy...and they know war and invasion is bad for business (not to mention they've more or less dropped the subject). Only the left brings up the border issue to stir nationalism and distract from their failures.
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More general comment....
Socialist, social Democrats and even progressives should tread lightly when it comes to defending regimes like the Castro or Chavez regime.
When you defend these people and their failings you open the door for the center and right wing to conflate socialism and left wing economics with bad governance. Especially bad authoritative governance.
Whenever you want to say look at Norway, look at Sweden; they can dismiss you by saying look at Venezuela, look at Cuba.
Socialism and corruption don't go hand in hand. But when the corruption get excused, it makes it look that way, especially to those that need convincing that the best cure for an capitalist economy is often more socialism
Socialist, social Democrats and even progressives should tread lightly when it comes to defending regimes like the Castro or Chavez regime.
When you defend these people and their failings you open the door for the center and right wing to conflate socialism and left wing economics with bad governance. Especially bad authoritative governance.
Whenever you want to say look at Norway, look at Sweden; they can dismiss you by saying look at Venezuela, look at Cuba.
Socialism and corruption don't go hand in hand. But when the corruption get excused, it makes it look that way, especially to those that need convincing that the best cure for an capitalist economy is often more socialism
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Let me make one thing clear
If all you have is ******** memes to debate economics with me, you are gonna have a bad time. Memes can't cover ignorance
Socialism is an economic system, nothing in the theory of the system says it needs to be undemocratic rule
There are plenty of failures of free market capitalism I can use, hell America provides plenty. And there are tons to far left successes for me to use as well.
So pick a lane, you wanna act like a troll or not. So I know exactly what type of energy to return
By the way, you seem to not even comprehend your trolling. Because your second meme is insulting socialism under anarchy. Not under a powerful state. If your gonna troll, do better.
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Bring it down. Just havin a laugh.
I'm not an AnCap or even a Libertarian. I'm a Classical Liberal (big up JS Mills, Adam Smith, and F.A. Hayek one time) so inherently I think the state has some legitimate function in regulating the economy and providing some services. I don't have a hard on for "muh free market capitalism". Most people who are 100% free market capitalist are ignorant of capitalism's short comings (or are just cold hearted children born out of wedlock).
As for my qualms with socialism...well first I should find out what you mean by socialism. For every Socialist I meet I seem to get a different take on the ideas. But my criticisms that I think work against all variants of socialism are mainly concerning the vagueness between definitions of personal and private property, what happens to people who do not want to participate in the socialist economy, and the fact that it is impossible to eliminate markets.
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Dude please, you were trying to have a laugh at my expense and I just did let the corniess slide
Second, I will respond when I get off work.
Second, I will respond when I get off work.
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Not at your expense. I have nothing against you as a person. You weren't the target.
I await your response.
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LOL......no doubt. No beef with dude. Just want him to recognize the importance of voting. I don't want him to get caught slippin watching Hidden Colors instead of casting a ballot on voting day like he did last time.
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Aren't the welfare-state and free health care policies of the countries at the top of this "least corrupt countries in the world" list classified as socialist by the average free market toting American right winger?
But I suppose that this list is just "fake news", as usual.
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I found this slightly interesting
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/...ng_vision_of_society_is_the_intellectual.html
Great article on this subject.
I found it interesting that conservatives want to reduce women's role in voting but unlike with students, people of color and poor folk, it is much harder to create rules that would target women's ability to vote by way of proxies like new ID requirements and reductions in the number of voting locations.
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