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Need to scrap this healthcare bill for BHCA. The Barson Health Care Act is all about getting people in the right mindset. If you have the right mindset all you need is Coal and the Black Lung. Tired of LIBBIES CRYING ABOUT HEALTH. CHANGE UP YOUR MINDSET.
 
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Need to scrap this healthcare bill for BHCA. The Barson Health Care Act is all about getting people in the right mindset. If you have the right mindset all you need is Coal and the Black Lung. Tired of LIBBIES CRYING ABOUT HEALTH. CHANGE UP YOUR MINDSET.
RECOMMENDED BY ONLY THE BEST SURGEON AKA DA HUD SECRETARY OF DA USA B 8)
 
Need to scrap this healthcare bill for BHCA. The Barson Health Care Act is all about getting people in the right mindset. If you have the right mindset all you need is Coal and the Black Lung. Tired of LIBBIES CRYING ABOUT HEALTH. CHANGE UP YOUR MINDSET.
RECOMMENDED BY ONLY THE BEST SURGEON AKA DA HUD SECRETARY OF DA USA B 8)

Imagine how ecstatic da don will be when he learns that King of the HUD is also a doctor.
 
Need to scrap this healthcare bill for BHCA. The Barson Health Care Act is all about getting people in the right mindset. If you have the right mindset all you need is Coal and the Black Lung. Tired of LIBBIES CRYING ABOUT HEALTH. CHANGE UP YOUR MINDSET.
RECOMMENDED BY ONLY THE BEST SURGEON AKA DA HUD SECRETARY OF DA USA B 8)

Imagine how ecstatic da don will be when he learns that King of the HUD is also a doctor.
MAYBE DA DAPPER DON WILL DRINK LESS DIET COKE
 
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RECOMMENDED BY ONLY THE BEST SURGEON AKA DA HUD SECRETARY OF DA USA B 8)

EXCELLENT post as usual. The KING OF THE HUD has spoken COMRADE. TOO MANY LIBBIES IN here don't have the right mindset which is holding them back.
DA PROOF IS IN DA PUDDING MY ALT RIGHT BROTHER. MEDIC AIDS FOR ALL IS BAD FOR AMERICA B. DA OLD PEOPLE CAN KICK ROCKS IF DEY DONT PICK UP THEIR BOOTSTRAPS B
 
EXCELLENT post as usual. The KING OF THE HUD has spoken COMRADE. TOO MANY LIBBIES IN here don't have the right mindset which is holding them back.
It's making them sick, i tell ya.


MAYBE DA DAPPER DON WILL DRINK LESS DIET COKE
No, he needs MOAR diet coke and LESS exercise so that he can focus all his energy on fixing this country. Why aren't we reporting all the great things he is doing for people like you and me (assuming you are either a white, straight male who opposes libbies or you are Benjamin Barson)? Why?
 
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DA PROOF IS IN DA PUDDING MY ALT RIGHT BROTHER. MEDIC AIDS FOR ALL IS BAD FOR AMERICA B. DA OLD PEOPLE CAN KICK ROCKS IF DEY DONT PICK UP THEIR BOOTSTRAPS B

If you old and haven't saved the six months of salary you CLEARLY HAD THE WRONG MINDSET all along.
 
EXCELLENT post as usual. The KING OF THE HUD has spoken COMRADE. TOO MANY LIBBIES IN here don't have the right mindset which is holding them back.
It's making them sick, i tell ya.


MAYBE DA DAPPER DON WILL DRINK LESS DIET COKE
No, he needs MOAR diet coke and LESS exercise so that he can focus all his energy on fixing this country. Why aren't we reporting all the great things he is doing for people like you and me (assuming you are either a white, straight male who opposes libbies or you are Benjamin Barson)? Why?
BECAUSE NPR AND CNN IS FAKE NEWS B
I GOT MY 18 HOURS OF ALEX JONES PER DAY B
 
It's making them sick, i tell ya.
No, he needs MOAR diet coke and LESS exercise so that he can focus all his energy on fixing this country. Why aren't we reporting all the great things he is doing for people like you and me (assuming you are either a white, straight male who opposes libbies or you are Benjamin Barson)? Why?

The ONLY ones complaining about Papa Suga are those with the wrong mindset. Barson is flourishing. How can Papa Suga be racist and sexist when DeVos Bae and Barson vouched for him? Too much LIBBIE Conjecture and innuendo.
 
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oil is key, but don't forget da coal. don't EVER forget.

getting rich without da coal is like getting healthy wealthy without da right mindset B.

VICE PRESIDENT Whywesteppin dropping the knowledge. Wealth without COAL is like Ham with no Burger.
 
Apologies if I misremember it, but I remember a post you made years ago describing how economics is ultimately about limited resources.

As a pragmatist, I raise a red flag whenever I hear an argument that goes for an extreme or is purely based on an ideological appeal, whether it's cutting all social programs or giving everyone free health care. Sure, ideally everyone would have free health care AND we wouldn't pay taxes. But obviously we can't have both of them at the same time.

To me these shouldn't even be ideological debates. They should just be optimization problems. But that almost never happens.

When we're applying economics to public policy debates, it is a good idea to try to optimize outcomes and to understand the trade offs that we are face with. I do doubt that we can ever have post ideological policy making simply because different people have different values and priorities and they would have different ideas of what would constitute an optimal policy outcome.



Here is the thing, I don't think we are having a public policy debates right now. At least not healthy ones

Maybe decades ago liberals and conservatives could look at a economic problem and come up with different plans with different trade offs on how to solve it, not today. While the left seems to be inundated with wonks that bicker among themselves, on the right it is becoming a barren wasteland.

The GOP's only economic arguments these days seems to all end on "the rich and corporations need tax cuts and everything will be ok". They won't even admit there are major economic problems beyond that.

Well, unless they want to attack the Dems when they are out of power.


It really feels like conservative have stopped believing their own claims about high end tax cuts.

Economic discussions are no longer actually about economics and have instead, become a proxy war over one's ideal organization of society. For hardcore conservatives, there is now a largely unspoken understanding that "low taxes," "small government" and 'balanced" budgets will not product widespread prosperity. Instead, very low taxes means that ultimately the state becomes less active and that by doing so it reduces the autonomy of women, queer folk, students and people of color and and anyone else whom conservatives believe currently enjoy too much autonomy.

For the rank and file, middle class suburban dad, who votes Republican, he knows there will be no economic boom, he knows that a tax cuts will not create a rising tide to lift all boats. What he knows and what he really wants is a breakdown in state provided health and educational service and as result, his patriarchal power will be increased.

Take away planned parenthood and medicaid and he will have control over his daughter's reproduction. Take away public education and he can control how his son is educated. Impose austerity and remove the social safety net and labor laws and the suburban dad might be able to have live in black or brown maid who will work for food and a place to sleep in his attic.

The suburban, white dad is willing to see a break down in civilization, he is willing to see our Republic descend into Feudalism. He will wreck his own country and turn it over to a few billionaire warlords but he will be happy when his atavistic desires get satisfied. Economic growth will not trickle down but if the billionaire class can become great lords in our new land, then the suburban dad can become the lord in his own home. He will knowingly support bad economic policies as long as it allows him to avenge what he sees as decades of lost honor and capitulations to the sort of people who should have been more submissive and deferential to him.

The poor white trash will do what they'll do. The conservative millionaires and billionaires are heartless but rationally self interested and are usually just looking to make their bank accounts fatter. It is the petite bourgeois suburbanite, the petty bourgeois, wannabe millionaire, who seeks the restoration of the pater familia, to be the worst sort of American today.
 
It you look at polling on many issues, there is a lot of ignorance, racism, tribalism on both sides.

But overall it is clearly worst on the right by a large margin.

I'd like to believe that on the left it's a survival reaction door to the crap coming from the right.
 
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