***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Nike Jordan]

In response to the WaPo sting op story
It looks like this man found out about the existence of opinion-editorials and how they work, very impressive.

 

[whywesteppin]

but but but the wind said...

 

[trueprada]

 

[ksteezy]

I feel bad for laughing but damn the shamelessness of this had me



Dude is starting to mention Liz Warren almost as much as he does Hillary as of late,must be getting nervous about his future prospects...

Bruhs this man is mentally disabled, I’m convinced.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I regret ever saying a word in defense of Warren's nonsense on the Native American issue. But I still maintain that all evidence points to her no benefiting from it professionally. Her being a white woman already would have checked the diversity box anyway.

So I don't disagree with someone giving Warren shade for her buffoonery.

She likes to run out there and run her mouth about other Dems, I would love to see someone really check her hard on it. Return some of that same energy she like to give others

But Trump manages to do it in the pettiest, offensive and idiotic way possible.

 

[Nike Jordan]

so glad project veritas got exposed, again.

wasn't the wind blowing through here last year trying to use them as a reliable source?

****ing wind.

 

[deuce king]

but but but the wind said...

Are Johnson and Daines definite "no's" on the vote?? Meaning have they said it on record is it speculation?? Also....for the remainder on that list which senator or senators are most likely to say no??

 

[trueprada]

DL Hughley might only have a GED but even he said he knows that the Congress is supposed to work for the American people. That’s why he’s demanding the 25th Amendment be invoked.

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When it comes to Trump’s racism, Hughley said that the president is an equal opportunity offender.

“It’s gay, Muslims, so he clearly is a racist,” he continued. “To pretend like he’s not — yesterday he was honoring Native Americans in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson, who was called a sharp knife. He can’t pretend. It was not just a slur. It was that he did it in front of somebody that murdered the — it was based on the guy hanging in the portrait behind him.”

CNN host Chris Cuomo asked if he thought the Andrew Jackson painting behind Trump was intentional or if Trump didn’t know.

“If he has no idea bout history, he’s too dumb to be president,” Hughley responded. But the U.S. has a long sordid history of racism and Hughley acknowledged that the country has had more presidents that were racists than weren’t.


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“President Trump is not new, he is retro,” he continued. “We can go back and forth but ultimately a large percentage of Americans, 80 percent of Republicans support him, and a large percentage of Evangelicals support him, and if the American population were tired of what he was doing–”

Cuomo cut him off to note he frequently makes the comment that Americans have the power to do something if they want. Cuomo brought up the large number of Republicans required to invoke the 25th Amendment against someone in their own party.

“Last time I checked I got a GED, whether they are Republican or Democrat, they still serve the people,” he continued. “If they were tired enough of it they would make something happen. I think that people are not as uncomfortable with racists or incompetent than they pretend to be.”

 

[whywesteppin]

Are Johnson and Daines definite "no's" on the vote?? Meaning have they said it on record is it speculation?? Also....for the remainder on that list which senator or senators are most likely to say no??

(this is from my 5 minutes of reading about this yesterday, so take it with a grain of salt)

They said they would vote no on the current version of the bill. My understanding is that their demands, if met, would cause others to vote no. I think Collins is next most likely to vote no.

My personal assessment on this bill is that it is an even bigger ****-up than their ACA repeal. A tax cut during a good economy should be easy to push through with GOP control of both chambers but this bill is atrocious for so many people that even some Republicans can't get behind it. I'd be really surprised if anything resembling its current form makes it through, but who knows.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...s-on-controversy-laden-agenda-on-capitol-hill

Trump's sessions with big groups of Republicans tend to take the form of pep rallies, and when visiting a Senate GOP lunch last month Trump spent much of the time on a rambling account of the accomplishments of his administration.

 

[deuce king]

whywesteppin thank you for that reply and assessment.

 

[AEA18]

DL

 

[Belgium]

When a few no's are coming in that put the passing of the Cut Cut Cut Act at serious risk, I think that's the first potential step into the current plan falling apart because they'll be trying to cut deals with the current no voters. Accomodating demands from the no voters may in turn result in others backing out because of those changes. I reckon Collins and McCain will be a no, if only for the hyperpartisan process in which this tax plan was handled in the case of McCain.

 

[Belgium]

This should probably raise serious concerns about Dapper Don's mental health. He somewhat apologized for it, said it was indeed him on that tape and also said it was just locker room talk.
But apparently it was all fake news. This is even more ridiculous than the pointless and easily debunked crowd size lies.
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ood-fires-back-at-trump-the-tape-is-very-real
'Access Hollywood' fires back at Trump: 'The tape is very real'
“Access Hollywood” is responding to reports that President Trump doesn’t believe that the infamous tape of him on the program — bragging about groping and kissing women without their consent — is real.

“We wanted to clear something up that has been reported across the media landscape,” host Natalie Morales said during a Monday broadcast.

“Let us make this perfectly clear: The tape is very real,” she said. "Remember his excuse at the time was 'locker room talk.' He said every one of those words."



Trump reportedly told a senator and an adviser earlier this year that he believes the tape, which was recorded in 2005 and came to light weeks before the 2016 presidential election, might not be authentic.

Trump acknowledged that it was him caught on the tape after it was released last year and apologized for the comments, describing them as “locker room talk” between men.

Also on Monday, Arianne Zucker, one of the actresses who greeted Trump and "Access Hollywood" host Billy Bush on the tape, said that while she wasn't present for Trump's "when you're a star, they let you do it" remarks, she didn't see how the recording could be faked.

“I don’t know how else that could be fake unless someone’s planting words in your mouth,” Zucker told CNN host Anderson Cooper on “Anderson Cooper 360.” “How do you apologize for something and renege on it? It’s puzzling to me.”

After the tape's existence was first reported by The Washington Post last year, multiple women came forward to accuse Trump of sexual harassment or assault.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders refused to deny that Trump thinks the tape is fake during the press briefing Monday.

“The president addressed this, this was litigated and certainly answered during the election by the overwhelming support for the president and the fact he's sitting here in the Oval Office today,” Sanders said.

 

[rillo561]

Remember it was "locker room talk", now it's "not real" dude must think everyone is as dumb as his supporters.

 

[aepps20]

If the tape were real it was locker room talk but it was fake so no worries. LIBBIE CONJECTURE AND INNUENDO has created a country where people aren't analytical thinkers.

 

[the qbz]

R kelly said his tape was fake as well

That defense dont work

 

[dreamer23]

been a weird morning...
olbermann's done...morning joe dude deleting his "trump tweets" now this...

 

[dwalk31]

Feel free to tap dance your way back outta here then boss. Until next time....

That feels a wee bit racially charged... But at least you didn't say Pocahontas. Because that is the line, apparently

 

[dwalk31]

Warren and Rachel Dolezal are a trip

 

[Belgium]

 

[Mark Antony]

https://www.mccain.senate.gov/publi...-s-veto-of-keystone-xl-pipeline-approval-bill

Whatever Maverick.

 

[plansb]

Olbermann twitter always gave me a good laugh because it would be a dozen or so tweets of him fired up and ranting, then they would be followed by a missing dog tweet.

 

[gry60]

Speaking of coal...

Meanwhile in Australia...

https://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-poli...ing-massive-battery-installation-in-100-days/


100MW...

That's a couple of power plants right there.

 

[Belgium]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-associates-summoned-to-talk-to-manhattan-d-a
Manafort Bankers, Associates Summoned to Talk to Manhattan D.A.

 

[gry60]

but but but the wind said...

Collins is from Maine, isn't she? They recently voted for medicaid expansion, are the slowest growing state in New England, and their main economy is based on agriculture (think farm subsidies).

I don't think she'll be a yes.