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He probably has no choice because he was the product of an oppressive political system that didn't afford him equal opportunity throughout his childhood. Now he has people telling him to be happy that he got his $1 because it's better than nothing.

What's your solution? Mine is investing in education.
 
I was not franchising. And your wage increase making a good business more money seems to be a reach. But who knows.

This really gets into what one thinks the primary purpose of business is.

Do you think the largest consumer market in the world wouldn't spend more money at good businesses if they had more disposable income? That's probably a much bigger reach.

It's actually proven that increased wages increase spending and stimulate the economy. If your business can't compete, that's really on the business owner is it not?

I'm not understanding how your business relocating made you cease ownership, unless you meant you relocated.
 
Do you think the largest consumer market in the world wouldn't spend more money at good businesses if they had more disposable income? That's probably a much bigger reach.

It's actually proven that increased wages increase spending and stimulate the economy. If your business can't compete, that's really on the business owner is it not?

I'm not understanding how your business relocating made you cease ownership, unless you meant you relocated.

I relocated lol
 
Yet the GOP only seeks to cripple education by putting Betsy Devos of all people in charge. Education and healthcare are both some of the most important factors to becoming successful and productive and one party happens to want to cripple both.

I disagree. Are you against Charter and private schools?
 
What's your solution? Mine is investing in education.
Yeah, I'm sure that's also a GOP solution:

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/gop-actions-may-graduate-school-143000721.html

"Borrowing
Currently, graduate students can take out federal loans up to their cost of attendance. Under the bill, however, they'd be limited to a federal loan of $28,500 a year.

That cap will force many graduate students to make a harsh choice, said Barmak Nassirian, director of federal relations and policy analysis at the American Association of State Colleges and Universities.


"They'll either not go because they have a gap they can't fill, or they'll replace federal loans with much more expensive private loans," he said.

Repayment and forgiveness
student loans now, the bill would narrow those options to two: A 10-year standard plan or an income-based repayment plan — at 15 percent of their income for as long as it takes to repay the loan, with interest." While there are roughly six ways to repay student loans now, the bill would narrow those options to two: A 10-year standard plan or an income-based repayment plan — at 15 percent of their income for as long as it takes to repay the loan, with interest.

The bill abolishes all loan forgiveness options. Most troubling to education policy experts and graduate students is the ending of the popular Public Service Loan Forgiveness program. More than half a million people have signaled interest in this kind of forgiveness, in which former students who work in certain public service jobs can have their loans cancelled after 10 years of on-time payments."

I call this the beginning of feudal America.
 
A lot of students are put at a disadvantage due to the quality of their schools. Better schools, and more investment in staffing would help tremendously.

Do you have a specific way or desired process to improve education? I'm sure we all can agree education improving makes other things better but how do we improve it
 
Yeah, I'm sure that's also a GOP solution:

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/gop-actions-may-graduate-school-143000721.html

"Borrowing
Currently, graduate students can take out federal loans up to their cost of attendance. Under the bill, however, they'd be limited to a federal loan of $28,500 a year.

That cap will force many graduate students to make a harsh choice, said Barmak Nassirian, director of federal relations and policy analysis at the American Association of State Colleges and Universities.


"They'll either not go because they have a gap they can't fill, or they'll replace federal loans with much more expensive private loans," he said.

Repayment and forgiveness
student loans now, the bill would narrow those options to two: A 10-year standard plan or an income-based repayment plan — at 15 percent of their income for as long as it takes to repay the loan, with interest." While there are roughly six ways to repay student loans now, the bill would narrow those options to two: A 10-year standard plan or an income-based repayment plan — at 15 percent of their income for as long as it takes to repay the loan, with interest.

The bill abolishes all loan forgiveness options. Most troubling to education policy experts and graduate students is the ending of the popular Public Service Loan Forgiveness program. More than half a million people have signaled interest in this kind of forgiveness, in which former students who work in certain public service jobs can have their loans cancelled after 10 years of on-time payments."

I call this the beginning of feudal America.

I was talking about K-12. Most graduate students are taking out loans and betting on themselves (unless they are on scholarship or have their parents funding it). A bet that typically pays off.
 
Do you have a specific way or desired process to improve education? I'm sure we all can agree education improving makes other things better but how do we improve it

I am a fan of school choice and the voucher program. It gives parents that are involved an opportunity to give their children a real chance. But actually investing in communities is another way I think it will help. Starting after-school programs. A lot of issues stem from the lack of activities for students.
 
Do you have a specific way or desired process to improve education? I'm sure we all can agree education improving makes other things better but how do we improve it

Increase funding, revamp programs including programs for children who need more help and learn in atypical ways, increase wages for staff, and better handling of problem students (in school therapy and care).

I also believe removing SOL type programs may be beneficial but I think a test run would be a good idea.


But actually investing in communities is another way I think it will help. Starting after-school programs. A lot of issues stem from the lack of activities for students.

Fully agree here, part of my job involves working with low income areas and schools and one major thing we have noticed is putting good food into these kids and helping them with after school activities has been a a big success.
 
The dude is using the stick market as his major economic metric and he wonders why I point out why I tell him he is ignorant on economics.

And it is baffling to me that in a capitalist society, fueled by consumption, that conservatives never worry about the consumer based getting poorer or not properly sharing in economic growth.

Workers are consumers. You don't increase wages, then they have less and less money to purchase goods. After a while that lends to otherwise lower profits or consumers having to borrow. To make things worst, we generally hostile to labor in this country and incentivize companies no to invest in their workers.

If you want to help small businesses, the support single payer, infrastructure projects, increase to the EIC, and enforce antitrust stricter. Help them with their biggest cost and make markets less consolidated.

There are many problems with right wing economic thought. But one of the worst is no forward thinking. Conservatives give zero thought to 5, 10, or 30 years from now. All their plans seem to be about trying to heat up the economy as soon as possible for politicial wins. Liberals, and more so leftist, are much better at looking ahead. Their plans really don't pay off all the way for decades, and by that time people tend to not want to give them praise because "that's just the way things are"

There are many ways to tell if an economy is doing well. Metrics, indexes, and thought exercises. But my favorite simply asking this "If a child is born today, which scenario is most likely: that he ends up economically worst off than his parents, about the same, or better"

Minus racial discrimination, which is a massive thing to pit aside I realize, 60 to 50 years ago you really had to screw up not to do at least as well as your parents, with effort you could easily do better. That had as much to do with the macro economy, than it did personal ambition.

Today, well peddle diet libertarian Gary V. nonsense to our children and tell them they need to fight for their lives just to enjoy the same standard of living their parents did. And if they fail, if they refuse to take on the debt, and stress, to make that happen, they are weak. Their economic failings are all their own. Not the neoliberal hell they were born into

And for some reason, conservatives never stop and think about how messed up that is.

Worst, these rich older ones raided their kids piggy bank one last time before retirement with this tax bill. And the younger olds cheered on this economic terrorism.
 
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I am a fan of school choice and the voucher program. It gives parents that are involved an opportunity to give their children a real chance. But actually investing in communities is another way I think it will help. Starting after-school programs. A lot of issues stem from the lack of activities for students.

School choice as in more charter schools?
I think more issues stem from the communities themselves and not a lack of after school programs. But more after school programs could help

Increase funding, revamp programs including programs for children who need more help and learn in atypical ways, increase wages for staff, and better handling of problem students (in school therapy and care).

I also believe removing SOL type programs may be beneficial but I think a test run would be a good idea.

More funding increased wages for staff are both very needed. Treat/pay your teachers better and you'll see a change in the teaching.
 
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