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Amazing. Some of the Fox News opinion hosts have moved from brushing off the report about the order to fire Mueller last June and are now just denying it entirely, despite the fact that their own network confirmed it yesterday. Even Hannity confirmed it before swiftly moving on to more important issues like a random car chase.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...etworks-own-reporting/?utm_term=.15cf49ea4583
 
This is what happens when taxes get really low:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2018/01/23/detroit-green-light/109524794/

"An irate customer who was upset about the price of an item started trashing a northwest Detroit Marathon gas station last month, prompting manager Sadek Kaid to dial 911.


When the police didn’t respond after several minutes, Kaid said he hit redial and asked why.

“The dispatcher said, ‘It’s because you don’t have the Green Light,’ ” Kaid said. “The customer was in here destroying the store, throwing everything off the shelves. He was here for almost an hour before he left. When the police finally came, they told us the Green Light locations get priority.”

Businesses pay between $4,000 and $6,000 to join Project Green Light, a program that allows police to monitor businesses’ video surveillance feeds in real time. The cost covers installation of high-definition cameras and lighting. There also is a monthly fee of up to $150 for cloud-based video storage.

In exchange, participating companies are given Priority 1 status on police dispatches — but some business owners who don’t participate feel they’re being treated like secondary citizens."



Soon, y'all gonna call 911 and they're gonna show up with the credit card reader for that gas money.

What the ****
 
Nikki Haley calls Donald Trump affair rumors "disgusting," "highly offensive"
http://bit.ly/2By2EUj

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well when you ***** yourself out to a man like that, you deserve the rumors... same goes for hope Hicks, Sarah Huckabee, Sean Spicer, and Kanye West.

all *****.
 
This is what happens when taxes get really low:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2018/01/23/detroit-green-light/109524794/

"An irate customer who was upset about the price of an item started trashing a northwest Detroit Marathon gas station last month, prompting manager Sadek Kaid to dial 911.


When the police didn’t respond after several minutes, Kaid said he hit redial and asked why.

“The dispatcher said, ‘It’s because you don’t have the Green Light,’ ” Kaid said. “The customer was in here destroying the store, throwing everything off the shelves. He was here for almost an hour before he left. When the police finally came, they told us the Green Light locations get priority.”

Businesses pay between $4,000 and $6,000 to join Project Green Light, a program that allows police to monitor businesses’ video surveillance feeds in real time. The cost covers installation of high-definition cameras and lighting. There also is a monthly fee of up to $150 for cloud-based video storage.

In exchange, participating companies are given Priority 1 status on police dispatches — but some business owners who don’t participate feel they’re being treated like secondary citizens."



Soon, y'all gonna call 911 and they're gonna show up with the credit card reader for that gas money.


 


This admin is trying to make damn sure that there's lasting damage to the country and all of its insitutions long after they're gone :smh:
 
Well she’s Indian right? Middle eastern people are considered Caucasian when identifying on one of those questions.
India is apart of asia though, I doubt somebody like aziz ansari is marking himself as white when he's asked about his race. Really it shows how silly race is as a concept.
 
well when you ***** yourself out to a man like that, you deserve the rumors... same goes for hope Hicks, Sarah Huckabee, Sean Spicer, and Kanye West.

all *****.
Lmao at Kanye West. I almost forgot about Kanye going to Trump tower to get some butter biscuits.
 
Well she’s Indian right? Middle eastern people are considered Caucasian when identifying on one of those questions.
just to clarify... India is not considered Middle Eastern.

They also have pretty much every "race" possible too. Southerners are fairly dark and the northerners look Caucasian.

That said, I've never met an Indian, no matter how light or how dark their skin was, who didn't identify as Indian.

And I bet if you asked them if they are black or white they'd look at you funny.

Really it shows how silly race is as a concept.
exactly
 
just to clarify... India is not considered Middle Eastern.

They also have pretty much every "race" possible too. Southerners are fairly dark and the northerners look Caucasian.

That said, I've never met an Indian, no matter how light or how dark their skin was, who didn't identify as Indian.

And I bet if you asked them if they are black or white they'd look at you funny.


exactly


Oh I 100% agree with all you said. I found it weird myself. I mean the way race is treated as a whole is stupid.
 
just to clarify... India is not considered Middle Eastern.

They also have pretty much every "race" possible too. Southerners are fairly dark and the northerners look Caucasian.

That said, I've never met an Indian, no matter how light or how dark their skin was, who didn't identify as Indian.

And I bet if you asked them if they are black or white they'd look at you funny.


exactly

Exactly.

I've only heard of India being separated from Asia in the US. All my friends, coworkers, bosses, etc from Asia consider me to be half Asian. In England, when people refer to Asian, they're usually talking about Indian people. Not sure where this ignorance stemmed from.

I've mentioned this before; my mom can pass as a slightly tan white woman/Latina, and her family is lighter in color than most of my European family. There's no way in hell any of them would ever identify as white though, especially the older people who lived through British rule. My grandfather looked 100% white and was regularly left alone by British officers, but he ended up going to prison for 15 years for a "terrorist plot" against them anyway.
 
Bonuses are NOT taxed at 48%.

I wondered about that. I got a bonus for one of my jobs and it just gets treated as extra pay - so taxed as if I made that much extra over the year.

Having a flat rate (way above the regular rate) doesn’t make sense to me - you would be better calling it a temporary pay rise or something - and you can guarantee that’s what Wall St etc would do.

Can someone confirm how a bonus isn’t treated under the US tax code?
 
I wondered about that. I got a bonus for one of my jobs and it just gets treated as extra pay - so taxed as if I made that much extra over the year.

Having a flat rate (way above the regular rate) doesn’t make sense to me - you would be better calling it a temporary pay rise or something - and you can guarantee that’s what Wall St etc would do.

Can someone confirm how a bonus isn’t treated under the US tax code?

Had this question asked by a client recently and had it confirmed by a payroll tax specialist. At the very least, a bonus needs to be withheld at 22% federal Plus any other taxes that will be put on it, think FICA, disability insurance, state, and local taxes. The old rate last year was 25% and before that as well. Now if you have a competent HR staff or payroll company they will only take that but also if you make more where your effective federal tax rate is higher than 22%, then you hope they withhold the right amount relative to your projected full year taxable income to not have anything due at year end and this avoid paying penalties.

This is tougher when you get raises midyear like many of us do. That’s when you might have to start planning extra withholding and such. I know I usually start doing the math when I receive my raise and bonus info after I get my first check with the new pay rate. But I also have access to tax planning software on my computer so it makes it easier :lol
 
https://itep.org/moodys-and-conserv...ump-corporate-tax-cut-is-not-helping-workers/

Moody’s, one of the big three credit rating agencies, announced on Thursday that the Trump-GOP tax law will do little to improve the economy or help working people.

Analysts at Moody’s said, “We do not expect a meaningful boost to business investment because U.S. nonfinancial companies will likely prioritize share buybacks, M&A [mergers and acquisitions] and paying down existing debt… Much of the tax cut for individuals will go to high earners, who are less likely to spend it on current consumption.”

Several corporations have misleadingly claimed that their recently announced bonuses, pay raises or investment plans are a response to the massive corporate tax cut included in the Trump-GOP tax law. In some cases, it is obvious that they are simply continuing the trend of raising their wages each year as they face stiffer competition for workers. For example, Walmart raised its minimum wage in 2015 and 2016 and seems to be trying to keep up with its competitor, Target.

In other cases, it’s clear that whatever bonus or raise the company is announcing is a tiny fraction of its tax cut. Disney’s announced $125 million in bonuses and new $50 million employee education program is a fraction of the $1.2 billion tax break it will likely receive each year — not to mention its existing commitment to acquire part of 21st Century Fox for $52 billion.

The real problem with the corporate PR campaign is that even those economists who supported Trump’s corporate tax cut and claimed it would help workers do not believe that it works this way. Economists generally agree that the immediate beneficiaries of a corporate tax cut are the shareholders who will receive higher stock dividends or enjoy larger gains on their stock sales.

Some economists assert a corporate tax cut would, in the long-run, benefit workers to a degree. Their economic argument is shaky at best, but even they do not claim that workers will benefit just weeks after a corporate tax cut is enacted. Instead, they believe that lower taxes will result in more investment in American companies, which will be invested in equipment and other things that make employees more productive, and this will result in higher wages. This would take years.

Of course, if any one of these things fails to come true, the whole theory breaks down anyway. Josh Bivens at the Economic Policy Institute has pointed out that after-tax profits of corporations historically have not correlated with investments that enhance productivity, and in any event higher productivity does not always lead to higher wages, particularly in the decades since unionization declined.

And even among economists who believe workers will benefit from a corporate tax cut, most assume that benefit will be small. The Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT), the official revenue-estimators for Congress, and the Congressional Budget Office, assume that 25 percent of the benefits of a corporate tax cut would go to labor in the long-run, and the rest to the owners of corporate stocks or the owners of capital more generally. JCT assumes that long-run to be 10 years after a corporate tax cut is enacted — not a few weeks. (ITEP follows JCT’s approach but notes that the resulting estimates should be seen as a best-case scenario for working people.)

This is why even economists at conservative institutions like the American Enterprise Institute and the Tax Foundation were quoted dismissing the recent corporate announcements in a New York Times article earlier this week:

“The theory that tax cuts will increase wages is a theory based on investment, and the effect that increased investment will have on productivity,” said Michael R. Strain, an economist at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. “It is not a theory based on a pure transfer of excess profits into workers’ profits. That takes longer than two weeks to happen.”

Anecdotes of bonus payments, or even minimum wage increases, are the least-useful way to determine if a tax change is lifting workers, said Scott Greenberg, a senior analyst at the Tax Foundation in Washington. The best way is rigorous academic study, which Mr. Greenberg noted takes years to complete.

For once, ITEP, Moody’s, AEI, and the Tax Foundation all seem to agree on something: The recent corporate announcements of bonuses and raises are irrelevant to the tax debate.
 
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