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I have to find the article to post. But leading up to the election news outlets really screwed over Clinton. They pushed the email story way more than any of her policy proposal.

Even if she went full populist, it would not have mattered, the press got their drama headline, and were going to milk it to death.

Donald Trump is sometimes right for the wrong reason. He is dead wrong about the press being bad because they are "unfair to him." But the press is crap because they trip over themselves to prop up this BS "both sides" narrative.

They helped get us into the situation we are right now. That you can't tell the truth about how morally bankrupt the conservative right is, or about how much of a threat to democracy Trump is, and about how complicity the GOP is in all of it, because you come off as partisan.

As much as I criticize the Democratic mainstream and the center-left, it is still left and knows how to inflict death by a thousand cuts on conservatism.

Also, yeah, people need to say that the GOP is an enemy of the American people. The GOP treats the bottom 90% as if they were a nation defeated in a war. The indemnity that the bottom 90% has to pay is to give up is manifold and includes pensions, healthcare and access to higher education. If a foreign power imposed these terms on us, we would consider it a monstrous injustice and yet, the GOP inflicts those terms on the vast majority of Americans and it is described by the press as just a different way of doing things.
 
I got 9 and I'm not a US citizen - just didn't know when the tax forms have to be in. All the other stuff is pretty basic.

Still not right though!
I just think it’s a bureaucratic waste of money to institute a system like this when you could better the education system by better funding teachers and/or more funding in the arts/sciences.

They teach this civics stuff in middle school anyway. Or that’s when I learned the basics of government.
 
Why the Russia Sanctions story isn’t the lead in this news cycle is annoying. All this hand wringing over this memo distraction....and Trump just refused to implement sanctions passed by congress against a hostile nation that attacked the country’s election


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Why the Russia Sanctions story isn’t the lead in this news cycle is annoying. All this hand wringing over this memo distraction....and Trump just refused to implement sanctions passed by congress against a hostile nation that attacked the country’s election


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anyone watch the dirty money documentary series on netflix? one of them is about trump and his business dealings. the trump described in that episode is identical to the trump described in fire and fury
 
So regarding the Trump administration declining to enforce the Russia sanctions, can they simply say no to a law passed by congress and passed by the president?
Congress passed the bill with about 99% yes votes across both chambers as I recall it. There were only 2 or 3 no votes. One thing I'm definitely sure of is that one of those no votes came from Rohrabacher.

The bill was then sent to the president's desk and as the subsequent 10-day deadline of signing or vetoing came near, Trump at last signed it.
He also left a remark which says he objects to the bill for a number of reasons.

I don't recall the exact timeframes but after his signature there was a deadline to start working on the sanctions. I believe this was around October. I recall McCain having to give the Trump admin. a nudge because he felt the implementation was going painfully slow.
So now the Trump administration just declines to enforce them entirely, stating that the fact that the law was passed is a sufficient deterrent.

But how does that work? Congress virtually unanimously voted for the sanctions bill and Trump himself signed it into law. Under what authority can the State Dept. block the implementation of a law approved by 99% of Congress and the president himself?
 
I think if he would veto it. If they revote with a super majority (66%) it’s enforced and overrides the veto. But this works for amendments. Not sure if sanctions function the same way.
 
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