***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[blco02]

This lady just ethered Hillary on the more than doubling of her health care costs under Obamacare.

 

[RustyShackleford]

This lady just ethered Hillary on the more than doubling of her health care costs under Obamacare.

Hillary sniffed out something was off instantly though.

The lady says she was without an employer, so without government subsidies, paying $150 for a family of four. That I have a hard time believing that

 

[blco02]

Hillary sniffed out something was off instantly though.

The lady says she was without an employer, so without government subsidies, paying $150 for a family of four. That I have a hard time believing that

She said her costs went from $400 something to over $1000.

 

[Cars]

W

This lady just ethered Hillary on the more than doubling of her health care costs under Obamacare.

I disagree. Her cost skyrocketed to more than I've personally heard before. It was around 400 to 1,080 I believe? Sheesh. 

Hillary's response was that she'd try to lower co-pays and deductibles and introduce more competition. I liked that answer. I don't want some impossible horse **** answer like she'll get it down to where everyone pays $25 for complete coverage

 

[RustyShackleford]

Hillary sniffed out something was off instantly though.

The lady says she was without an employer, so without government subsidies, paying $150 for a family of four. That I have a hard time believing that

She said her costs went from $400 something to over $1000.

Even if 450. With no employer, through a broker no less. That is still very cheap

Furthermore, she said she doesn't buy her plan on the market place now.

Something is off. I'm not denying her insurance went up, but ole girl might be allowing herself to get gamed

-And Hillary made a good pointing about competition and no-profits. The healthcare market should see some form of deregulation, and no-profits should be supported.

Kinda weird the GOP is against both things

 

[RustyShackleford]

Damb, this is why Hillary needs to be the VP pick.

Seems like she got the fade for Drumpf locked and loaded.

Of all of Trump's shortcomings, I mean he is trash in all areas, reminding people he has openly said he will be a terrorist in office sounds like a smart strategy

She need to be the Tex Winters to Bernie's Phil Jackson.

 

[cl-1b]

But who exploits with unconstitutional like force? Lefty's. We can sit here all day and go back and fourth about it. Just look it up. Esp. the EPA as recent as the current Obama administration. 

 

[blco02]

But who exploits with unconstitutional like force? Lefty's. We can sit here all day and go back and fourth about it. Just look it up. Esp. the EPA as recent as the current Obama administration. 

Yea and don't forget how the IRS has targeted conservative groups in order to stop them from gaining tax exempt status.

 

[RustyShackleford]

But who exploits with unconstitutional like force? Lefty's. We can sit here all day and go back and fourth about it. Just look it up. Esp. the EPA as recent as the current Obama administration. 

But which leftist started the EPA. Please answer us that

 

[Master Zik]

Bernie just got asked how he'll make college free. Corrects the misunderstanding and say specifically he's going to make tuition free for colleges and universities.


Then he basically says he's gonna make Wall St pay for it I just don't get dude with this stuff. Thought he had a plan. Wall St. just got bailed out, he really thinks he can accomplish them coughing up 70 billion?

Well corporations dodge $500 billion in taxes each year...I'm sure $70 billion is a cakewalk for Wall St and then add more for the taxing top 1%

But I agree that Bernie needs to be more direct on his plans
His idealism and stump speech can only get him so far. Jeff Weaver where you at

I'm not saying it's impossible and the # is too big. I'm saying Wall St. will never reciprocate.

They do that they're opening a door to getting bent over by the government forever.

Damb, this is why Hillary needs to be the VP pick.

Seems like she got the fade for Drumpf locked and loaded.

Of all of Trump's shortcomings, I mean he is trash in all areas, reminding people he has openly said he will be a terrorist in office sounds like a smart strategy

She need to be the Tex Winters to Bernie's Phil Jackson.

Sounds good in an ideal situation but Hilary does not want to be VP for 8 or even 4 years as time winds down on her clock so she can run all over again in 2024.

 

[gwap]

 But who exploits with unconstitutional like force?

wait a sec... I just named the expansion of policing forces and domestic and foreign spy operations...

and you bring up the "lefty" agencies that somehow are the only one's that exploit the american people?

You have got to be kidding me.....

the NSA and FBI have violated more constitutional amendments than any other government agency in the history of the country...

Even the expansion of local police forces with special task units during the reagan era have shown repeated corruption and miscarriages of justice.

somehow the agencies that hold the powers to kill and imprison americans as part of their operation are less likely to be corrupt than agencies that makes regulations governing environmental policy or tax code adherence?

thats such a joke that I think blc and cl-1b are just here with a secondary agenda

 

[rolaholic]

But who exploits with unconstitutional like force? Lefty's. We can sit here all day and go back and fourth about it. Just look it up. Esp. the EPA as recent as the current Obama administration. 

Yea and don't forget how the IRS has targeted conservative groups in order to stop them from gaining tax exempt status.

This is such a dishonest fox talking point that was buried already . It was revealed during IRS congressional investigations that not only did the IRS also do the same stuff for liberal groups but in many instances they were even more strict and extensive in their checks with them than the few tea party groups that the right lost their collective **** over . On top of it all, those tea party groups eventually got their tax exempt status anyway...

The IRS boogeyman wasn't after just righty's as implied,they went after everyone

 

[gwap]

 

[cl-1b]

First of all you guys are trying to say the IRS didn't target conservative individuals with audit? [emoji]128514[/emoji] LIE.

Your saying the EPA did not operate unconstitutionally under leftist agenda? [emoji]128514[/emoji] LIE

Matters of safety and national security TRUMP all of these matters regardless of what b.s. Leftist "talking points" you can try to counter with. If you used google that much to read... take the time to check both sides of the story and cease using this one sided leftyville bias you continue to drag on. It's getting old that you people won't even acknowledge the negative facts of your party when engaged in political conversation.

 

[cl-1b]

But who exploits with unconstitutional like force? Lefty's. We can sit here all day and go back and fourth about it. Just look it up. Esp. the EPA as recent as the current Obama administration. 

Yea and don't forget how the IRS has targeted conservative groups in order to stop them from gaining tax exempt status.

This is such a dishonest fox talking point that was buried already . It was revealed during IRS congressional investigations that not only did the IRS also do the same stuff for liberal groups but in many instances they were even more strict and extensive in their checks with them than the few tea party groups that the right lost their collective **** over . On top of it all, those tea party groups eventually got their tax exempt status anyway...

The IRS boogeyman wasn't after just righty's as implied,they went after everyone

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...vative-organizations-to-select-audit-targets/


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/05/1...ps-over-application-audits.html?referer=&_r=0


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...539900-c2e6-11e2-8c3b-0b5e9247e8ca_story.html

 

[cl-1b]

Don't let me start with EPA links. I'd be here all day.

Make sure to pay close attention to the last link above where Lois Lerner envoked the fifth amendment regarding the issue. [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji] go back to sleep children

 

[cl-1b]

Btw any conservative will tell you Nixon is a lefty regardless of his party classification. If he were running today, he would be too liberal for the leftists.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Reagan would be a "leftist" and a "RINO" in todays political environment.

The conservative commitment to an orthodoxy that doesn't even exist is the cause of the fracturing were seeing in the party today.

 

[duba169]

Is there a difference between protesting and disrupting? If so what is it and does it matter?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Btw any conservative will tell you Nixon is a lefty regardless of his party classification. If he were running today, he would be too liberal for the leftists.

 

[cl-1b]

He is a disgrace to the Republican Party

 

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[blco02]

Nixon was most certainly not a conservative.

 

[RustyShackleford]

And he was not a "leftist"

Nixon was a right leaning centralist, but dude is ranting about the EPA ignoring the fact it was created by a Republican president

 

[cl-1b]

And he was not a "leftist"

Nixon was a right leaning centralist, but dude is ranting about the EPA ignoring the fact it was created by a Republican president

But which presidents have used the power of the EPA unconstitutionally tho?!