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You have to remember to Rubio those people DONT MATTER. They arent his voters and never were. His base is happy and in 2-3 months he knows Trump will have done enough that this might blow over.

Rubio should care because all of these kids will be old enough to vote when he's up for reelection in four years.
 
Those backward knuckle draggers produce most of the food and energy in this country. Progressive states for the most part are consumer states.

You dudes can talk this **** about the country splitting in 2 all you want but the truth of the matter is that we need other.

The rural U.S. hates your ***.
 
The rural U.S. hates your ***.

What does that have to do with the fact that they make most of the food and energy?

And you naive as **** if you think those coastal white people **** with you like that. Shout out to Boston and all of New England.
 
He spews borderline gibberish.

He claims he wants gun control, then defends people that want exactly the opposite, then he argues for social democracy to help black folk, but then argues black folk need guns so badly cause a race war might be around the corner.

Another dude that his love for guns clouds his judgment.

He's just stepping into the spotlight. Wooo
 
He spews borderline gibberish.

He claims he wants gun control, then defends people that want exactly the opposite, then he argues for social democracy to help black folk, but then argues black folk need guns so badly cause a race war might be around the corner.

Another dude that his love for guns clouds his judgment.

Black people have used guns to defend themselves from white terrorism for 100s of years. That's historical fact.

Why do you think he's crazy for believing that's possible again?
 
What does that have to do with the fact that they make most of the food and energy?

And you naive as **** if you think those coastal white people **** with you like that. Shout out to Boston and all of New England.

I'm saying that the rural parts of the U.S. hate us a lot more than we hate them.
 
Rubio should care because all of these kids will be old enough to vote when he's up for reelection in four years.

Welp. He's toast. Ain't gonna be happening if that's the case cuz he pretty much sealed his fate when he refused to answer whether he'll accept funding from the NRA. He said it's pretty much "donations" and he "has no control" over those type of things :lol:
 
I like Killer Mike but when he turns libertarian to defend guns and the NRA, he sounds like a damn clown.
Man said he told his kids that if they walk out of school to protest gun violence then they can walk out of his house too.

***** what?
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Black people have used guns to defend themselves from white terrorism for 100s of years. That's historical fact.

Why do you think he's crazy for believing that's possible again?
Dude please, both you and Killer Mike make horrible arguments about guns.

Killer Mike talks like a social democrat on nearly every issue, it advocates grass toots activism and voting to combat white supremacy. Until it comes to guns. Then he frames the situation that is hopeless, one that would eventually dissolve into a race war, so black people need to grab onto guns as their only hope.

His flip completely undermines all his other views. He preaches hope one second, and a race to the bottom the next. If Mike it anyone wants to live in a society that is safer and more free for people that look like him, then like most developed countries, we need gun control. Just like we need universal healthcare, and stronger Unions, and more regulations, and so on.

It is ridiculous to me that some that advocates for all black people arming themselves to protect themselves against violent whites, doesn't consider that there is another option. That is to get rid of the weapons that can cause harm.

I am sick and ******* tired of these disingenuous arguments that the only option is more guns. Especially when all I ask for is some reasonable regulations. Not taking away all guns.

Killer Mike and people like him on the gun issue are not better than rich people that claim a tax increase or progressive rate for the betterment of the country is tyranny.

Btw, If someone in 2018 supports the NRA and their buffoonery, they are supporting white supremacists, not black power or civil rights.
 
Dude please, both you and Killer Mike make horrible arguments about guns.

Killer Mike talks like a social democrat on nearly every issue, it advocates grass toots activism and voting to combat white supremacy. Until it comes to guns. Then he frames the situation that is hopeless, one that would eventually dissolve into a race war, so black people need to grab onto guns as their only hope.

His flip completely undermines all his other views. He preaches hope one second, and a race to the bottom the next. If Mike it anyone wants to live in a society that is safer and more free for people that look like him, then like most developed countries, we need gun control. Just like we need universal healthcare, and stronger Unions, and more regulations, and so on.

It is ridiculous to me that some that advocates for all black people arming themselves to protect themselves against violent whites, doesn't consider that there is another option. That is to get rid of the weapons that can cause harm.

I am sick and ****ing tired of these disingenuous arguments that the only option is more guns. Especially when all I ask for is some reasonable regulations. Not taking away all guns.

Btw, If someone in 2018 supports the NRA and their buffoonery, they are supporting white supremacists, not black power or civil rights.

When this nation gets to a point where the police are demilitarized and the criminal justice system is reformed then sign me up for getting rid of guns.

Until then I'm good especially when Black and Brown people get 70% of weapons convictions and you know damn well we don't own 70% of the guns legal or illegal.
 
Those backward knuckle draggers produce most of the food and energy in this country. Progressive states for the most part are consumer states.

You dudes can talk this **** about the country splitting in 2 all you want but the truth of the matter is that we need other.
I think California is considered pretty progressive.
 
I'm of the thought that black folks should def tool up. That being said, hypothetically, if it ever gets to the point of a tyrannical gov't coming for it's citizens, laws and gun control etc are pretty irrelevant, so I see no need to be against them now.
 
When this nation gets to a point where the police are demilitarized and the criminal justice system is reformed then sign me up for getting rid of guns.

Until then I'm good especially when Black and Brown people get 70% of weapons convictions and you know damn well we don't own 70% of the guns legal or illegal.
Dude please, when that day comes you not giving up ****. You love guns, you not giving them up. The goal post will move accordingly.

Yes the criminal justice system comes down harder on black people on gun laws. Just like all most everything else. I am aware the criminal justice system is ****** up, I want to fix that too. We can both at the same time.

Think for a second. If black people are getting pinched on gun laws more, is that not an argument to to get rid of all these easily accessible guns. Or maybe you could argue that the laws need to be applied to whites and black more evenly. Or pinishment needs to be weaker, Or that the DOJ needs to start suing states for civil rights violations for uneven sentencing.

But Nahhh. Let us align ourselves with a group that advocates for policy that helps flood poor neighborhoods with illegal guns, ones that make it easy for cops and DAs to use gun laws against black communities

And let us act like the only solution is less regulations. I am more sympathetic to this argument with knives than guns.
 
Dude please, when that day comes you not giving up ****. You love guns, you not giving them up. The goal post will move accordingly.

Yes the criminal justice system comes down harder on black people on gun laws. Just like all most everything else. I am aware the criminal justice system is ****ed up, I want to fix that too. We can both at the same time.

Think for a second. If black people are getting pinched on gun laws more, is that not an argument to to get rid of all these easily accessible guns
. Or maybe you could argue that the laws need to be applied to whites and black more evenly. Or pinishment needs to be weaker, Or that the DOJ needs to start suing states for civil rights violations for uneven sentencing.

But Nahhh. Let us align ourselves with a group that advocates for policy that helps flood poor neighborhoods with illegal guns.

And let us act like the only solution is less regulations. I am more sympathetic to this argument with knives than guns.

Come on man, Black people were and still are getting felonies for weed and the solution isn't stop weed from coming into the community.

I like guns but I'd love to live in a world where they aren't needed, I'd venture to say you hate guns and can't understand why a civilized society needs or wants them.
 
Come on man, Black people were and still are getting felonies for weed and the solution isn't stop weed from coming into the community.
Ignore everything else I said to focus on the one thing. Ges

Weed and guns are nit the same, so different policy solutions are needed. Plus you miss the part were the NRA and people that ride with them, actually enable the police to target black people in such a way.

I don't hate guns, I am fine with living in a society with them in it. But that society needs to be responsible with them. America fails at that

You never want to have a genuine discussion about this.

So be blessed, we are done here.
 
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