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This isn't the case for my friends in LA or NYC. Most of the Bernie Supporters, I know are POC, activists, artists and mostly WOMEN. I have friends in BLM who don't openly endorse Bernie Sanders but may vote for him. 

Again, this is just from my perspective, I realize it doesn't reflect a most of the country AT ALL. 

I don't think I've even met a Bernie Bros. Are there any in here?

I have experiences similar to yours and similar to Rusty's. My friends in LA and the Bay Area mostly support Bernie and they are pretty diverse in their demographics and intersectional in their approach to politics. On the very white Central Coast of California, especially among my students, I know more than a few people who would qualify as Bernie Bros.

When I am teaching my classes, I keep ideology out of it as best as I can. After class, I'll have students come up to me and we'll talk openly about what we think about the Economy and American Politics. Based on my conversations with these young men, they want social democracy, they want it now and any person or group who is in the way or perceived to be in the way is problematic.

I cut these guys some slack because if you are a college freshman who grew up in Orange County or some other suburb of Los Angeles, your white parents have probably been raging against Obama and the "Welfare State" since you were in elementary school. The fact that you acknowledge that the economy is rigged means that you are already willing to eschew the conservative of meritocracy. It takes a little while to completely unlearn the "common sense" BS that the suburbs teach us.

I do my best to guide them toward people like Ta-Nehisi and other writers who are Social Democrats that articulate the limits of an economics only approach to social justice. I implore them to figure out why black voters did not support Sanders in the primaries and why white working class people will support Trump in a general election. I tell them not to lose the passion and the energy that Bernie Sanders has created and to control that fire and defend the progressive gains that we have, play small ball and vote for Hillary and other Democrats and to find a more inclusive approach to Social Democracy.

We'll get there but it takes patience and empathy and I remember that when I was the same age as my students, I did not have much of either.

Where and what do you teach bro? (If you don't mind my asking).

 

[rexanglorum]

I'm an adjunct professor so it is all over the place{

When I am teaching it is economics (intro micro and intro macro) and sometimes stats (intro to econometrics).

 

[mr highness]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nevada-democrats-sanders-campaign-violent-streak-002617971--election.html

Bernie's supporters can be pretty violent. Crazy madmen and madwomen.

 

[rolaholic]

Nice generalization and pretty ironic timing when word of Bunk from the Wire getting arrested for attacking a couple for supporting Bern was all over the news

 

[Master Zik]

I thought it was just the Trump posters but the rest of yall legit calling her Crooked Hillary like that **** flows as an insult nickname?

 

[zapatohead408]

Bernie Sanders is coming to San Jose on Wednesday, I'm there!

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...te-men-conservatives-silent-article-1.2632965

this popped up on my news feed this morning and i thought it was pretty ironic. for as many people on social media and here for that matter that said BLM only represents a war on police and so and so forth, but this year white men make up 71% of police murderers in the US

 

[rillo561]

Maybe they should organize too, instead of demonizing.

 

[ninjahood]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...te-men-conservatives-silent-article-1.2632965

this popped up on my news feed this morning and i thought it was pretty ironic. for as many people on social media and here for that matter that said BLM only represents a war on police and so and so forth, but this year white men make up 71% of police murderers in the US

Maybe they should organize too, instead of demonizing.

And what might you call this organization?

 

[sundoobie]

I thought it was just the Trump posters but the rest of yall legit calling her Crooked Hillary like that **** flows as an insult nickname?

Read this Clinton Foundation donor list under the 10 - 25 million section, tell me 'crooked' isn't a perfect word to describe her.

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors/

Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

Than read this...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...Saudis-after-10-million-to-Clinton-Foundation

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foun...als-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

Unethical? Conflict of Interest? Nahhhh CROOKED fits her just RIGHT!

 

[jape]

lmao lets be real everyone already has their mind up who they were voting for yall are just finding arguments to support your views to make yourself feel better

 

[rillo561]

And what might you call this organization?

AAPB

Americans Against Police Brutality.

 

[d nice]

Not voting for either Hilary or Trump

 

[blco02]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...fff032-1c34-11e6-9c81-4be1c14fb8c8_story.html

Meanwhile the Democrat party is in an absolute crack up and civil war, and the GOP is rallying behind Trump exactly the opposite of what people expected to happen.

 

[noskey]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...2016-polling-turnout-early-voting-data-213897

Trump isn't gaining the support close to what he's been claiming. The GOP is still such a hot mess that's going to get womped in November.

"While Trump’s insurgent candidacy has spurred record-setting Republican primary turnout in state after state, the early statistics show that the vast majority of those voters aren’t actually new to voting or to the Republican Party, but rather they are reliable past voters in general elections. They are only casting ballots in a Republican primary for the first time."


Oh, oops, I used a source with data behind it, instead of conjecture and condescension. Doesn't matter, deflections incoming in 3... 2...

 

[ninjahood]

Swing states in a statical tie...with a Mile long record known of Trump's potty mouth? I like those odds.

 

[Master Zik]

I thought it was just the Trump posters but the rest of yall legit calling her Crooked Hillary like that **** flows as an insult nickname?

Read this Clinton Foundation donor list under the 10 - 25 million section, tell me 'crooked' isn't a perfect word to describe her.

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors/

Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

Than read this...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...Saudis-after-10-million-to-Clinton-Foundation

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foun...als-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

Unethical? Conflict of Interest? Nahhhh CROOKED fits her just RIGHT!

It's literally the corniest name like the rest of Trump's childish nicknames

 

[wubalubadubdub]

I can see why some Republicans are in IDGAF mode when it comes to trump. Just look at mitt romney fighting harder against Trump than he EVER did against obama. They were told to get in line when mccain and romney were the noms. Now when trump wins, the same establishment is telling those same people who got in line to shut the **** up and "never trump". The whole thing has been coming for a while.

At the same time the split in the democratic party is not as drastic but it's beyond under reported by the same people who complain about how much the media focuses on trump

 

[RustyShackleford]

5,719 people voted for O'Malley in Kentucky, 1,951 for Ben Carson

B.More transplants in KY still repping

 

[sonoftony]

Kentucky race is tight

 

[deuce king]

One week closer to Bernie Sandes tapping out, his supporters crying foul and curling up in an a corner feeling ashamed once it's all over with. Exciting times. Let the countdown begin.

 

[Nike Jordan]

Nate Silver @NateSilver538

After tonight, Sanders will need to win the remaining states by ~35% to claim a pledged delegate majority.

 

[deuce king]

Nate Silver @NateSilver538

After tonight, Sanders will need to win the remaining states by ~35% to claim a pledged delegate majority.

^
So basically he doesn't have a chance in hell. Sounds good to me.

*Old WWE Anthem*...."You got......no chance........no chance in hell......you got"

 

[rolaholic]

So much for having the nomination wrapped up by this point though

Can't even front,I definitely didn't expect the dem race to drag on until California. All in all the DNC in Philly has all the makings of being even crazier than the GOP NC

 

[wubalubadubdub]

Im pretty sure Hilldawg went to florida as well even when it was over. That isn't the issue. The issue is the DNC is pissing off alot of bernie voters and that bernie is waging war on the democratic party if you really listen to his more recent comments