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Is it really that hard for some people to concede?
It's amazing to watch. The lengths people will go to not concede man......
Truly outstanding
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It's amazing to watch. The lengths people will go to not concede man......
Truly outstanding
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Inaction & poor judgement by Obama led to rise in isis?!?!
Let's step back a bit more... W started this war on a lie... That war bankrupt our country & destabilized the region rattling a whole bunch of hornet nests... All the while the carlyle group & haliburton (KBR) making billions in profits by getting no bid contracts.
W & tricky dickey also saw that their pals (& HW's) in Kuwait (Agility Logistics & Kuwait Petroleum Corp) got fed to.
3 words: Junior Varsity Squad. The intelligence was there but Obama went on live TV and completely dismissed them. Now look where we are. ISIS is running amuck. And him ****** up in Syria by acting ***** to Assad directly lead to ISIS rising up to fill that vacuum. He ****** up royally. And we don't even have to get into the fact that they're out here merkinh with our weapons.
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You just picked a flower for me & I'm patting you on the head & saying thank you.
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So is he or isn't he the founder of ISIS?Inaction & poor judgement by Obama led to rise in isis?!?!
Let's step back a bit more... W started this war on a lie... That war bankrupt our country & destabilized the region rattling a whole bunch of hornet nests... All the while the carlyle group & haliburton (KBR) making billions in profits by getting no bid contracts.
W & tricky dickey also saw that their pals (& HW's) in Kuwait (Agility Logistics & Kuwait Petroleum Corp) got fed to.
3 words: Junior Varsity Squad. The intelligence was there but Obama went on live TV and completely dismissed them. Now look where we are. ISIS is running amuck. And him ****** up in Syria by acting ***** to Assad directly lead to ISIS rising up to fill that vacuum. He ****** up royally. And we don't even have to get into the fact that they're out here merkinh with our weapons.
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I'll say this because I feel it's needed to put proper historical context to trump's isis comment.
Back in 03, after the Iraq invasion on the orders of W & ****, the Iraqi army was ordered to dissolve. Overnight, over 200k Iraqi soldiers were out of a job. This was the single most catastrophic decision of by the president & his administration with regards to Iraq because it helped enable to creation of the Iraqi insurgency complete with a suddenly available ready made army willing to fight to death.
Those soldiers took up arms against the US at that point...
Back in 03, after the Iraq invasion on the orders of W & ****, the Iraqi army was ordered to dissolve. Overnight, over 200k Iraqi soldiers were out of a job. This was the single most catastrophic decision of by the president & his administration with regards to Iraq because it helped enable to creation of the Iraqi insurgency complete with a suddenly available ready made army willing to fight to death.
Those soldiers took up arms against the US at that point...
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Splinter is the founder of the foot clan
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2016 and liberals are still blaming Bush. Come of it. Obama owns this war now and he clearly isn't built for it. The Obama Doctrine is complete trash. The whole world is now suffering. And no, that's not hyperbole.
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Evolve on issues?
Just the other day, you defended him doubling down on saying Obama is the founder of ISIS. His man even gave him a chance to calirfy....and he explicitly repeated what he meant.
Now it's "sarcasm" and "evolving on issues"? I thought trump was a straight shooter and "tells it like it is"
So have you "evolved" on the "issue" that Obama is the founder of Isis as well? Cuz you were sure as hell defending it the other day.
At the end of the day candidates evolve on issues for two reasons: 1. They truly think differently or 2. Political expediency (Obama on gay marriage, Hillary's whole career) we don't know what caused Trump's evolution but it happened and nowe that's what it is.
And I never said Obama was a founder, I said his inaction in the middle east and just his poor foreign policy in general directly lead to the rise of ISIS (JV squad).
Did you read the NPR article I posted in response to your second paragraph? The decision to leave Iraq was agreed upon by the previous administration. Obama agreed to extend the US presence in the country on the condition that the troops be granted immunity from Iraqi prosecution. The Iraqi government refused. Many other internal factors contributed to the birth of ISIS, not just the decision to pull out: you had the divisive nature of the Iraqi leadership, the complacency exhibited by Iraqi forces, disbanding Saddam's revolutionary guard...
Read the article and show some objectivity instead of sticking to a narrative that validates your distaste of Obama.
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EddieDoyers
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Obviously obama wasn't the founder of isis and the root cause is destabilization from the second iraq war. But some of the stuff i'm reading basically implies that obama had no impact whatsoever. Isis clearly grew under his watch. He downplayed them from the beginning. You can't talk about how great he's been and then say he has no impact or bearing on anything. Because then what is his purpose?
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Dude is letting his emotions about that dude in the white house get the best of his reaaon. And he and his cohort are the first to talk down about feel-good liberal policies.
Should just change the initial of the Republican party to (H) for Hypocrites
Should just change the initial of the Republican party to (H) for Hypocrites
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You really gonna try to pass Iraq onto Obama
It's been close to a decade. This Obama's cluster**** now.
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Rico or Ninja for the gold? It's a dead heat right now, like Phelps vs a clone of himself.
EddieDoyers
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Obama def goofed up
But here's the thing, how the hell is Trump gonna make it any better? The guy's only solution from what I heard is to bomb them some more. Like we haven't been bombing the whole Middle East the past decade
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Finally some objectivity. Cats wanna act like Obama has no blood on his hands but that's the furthest thing from the truth.
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Sure. That's fair to say. There are other bigger factors....but I can conede some of that.
But you got Trump, Ninja and Rico out here calling Obama the founder of Isis.....and now, blaming Obama for the Iraq war.
The recession was Obama's fault too huh?
. We've already seen trump campaign blame him for the 2004 death of Khan.
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EddieDoyers
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"Let's just play the blame game and never come up with good solutions to the problem" -Trump supporters
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I never called him the founder or blamed him for the Iraq War. But he definitely holds a large portion of the blame for the disaster that is currently the middle eaat. It's been almost a decade.
EddieDoyers
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So how's Trump going to solve this disaster? Lmk pls
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These last couple of pages = pure comedy. Great way to start my day. Thx Rico.
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You just tried to pass the Iraq war to Obama. Are these not your words. You just said this minutes ago
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Explain how calling wild claims sarcasm is evolving on an issue. What is the evolution? Do you know what sarcasm is?
You don't sound smart right now b.
