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This is at worst? -- with millions of Americans jobless and struggling to make ends meet, pay rent and countless numbers of small businesses suffering through the pandemic. This is what you think this is at worst?

Its as if you ignored the “either way” part of my post.

As I said, this is terrible news for the families and small businesses as you describe.
 
Ready to renounce my citizenship at this point. I’ll take anywhere, even Somalia.

i was gone mentally, even when Obama was in office. This right here tho, I don’t have the time to care or be associated with such a place.

Were you ready to leave during the Obama administration because of something he did?
 

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It is not that simple.

The Federalist Society is not just trying to get tax cuts.

Making this argument hand waves a **** ton. The SCOTUS will hand social conservatives tons of wins over the coming decades unless something is done. They just are not gonna get this specific one.



I can agree, you might get stuff around the edges; carve outs for religious organization ect.


but I think they are smart enough to stop short of anything super unpopular public opinion wise,

like really draconian abortion bans or any real changes to laws around gay marriage or LGBT workplace discriminations.


at some point we gotta look at reveled preference,
the legal wing of the conservative movement has had tons of chances to deliver real big wins for social conservatives and when it comes down to it they demure.

I expect the same with Barrett.

more rulings that make it impossible to implement government regulation, more rulings making it easier for republicans to hold minority rule

and no major action on social issues.
 
Were you ready to leave during the Obama administration because of something he did?

Nah, never. I started traveling abroad in 2008 and was gone 2010-2013. Through my experiences and curiosity, I concluded this ain’t the place for me. Although I realize you can’t really escape ‘racism’ ‘hatred’, etc.. the US is a different breed: throughout history, policy, and culture. a black president wasn’t going to change that. The two party system is trash, old, white patriarchal rule, is trash. Again, a lot of it is inescapable, but it’s not the ‘same’ other places. My 2 cents.
 
Its as if you ignored the “either way” part of my post.

As I said, this is terrible news for the families and small businesses as you describe.
No, I am directly challenging your characterization of "at worse". At worst it is a callous disregard for the American people during this time and a last ditch effort by the President to once again prioritize politics over the American people. He is more concerned with confirming a Far Right Justice to the Supreme Court to aid his all but guaranteed dispute of the election results than he is with providing support to those who need it the most. Your characterization of what this is "at worst" completely misses the mark, unsurprisingly.
 
No, I am directly challenging your characterization of "at worse". At worst it is a callous disregard for the American people during this time and a last ditch effort by the President to once again prioritize politics over the American people. He is more concerned with confirming a Far Right Justice to the Supreme Court to aid his all but guaranteed dispute of the election results than he is with providing support to those who need it the most. Your characterization of what this is "at worst" completely misses the mark, unsurprisingly.

I don’t disagree with your characterization.

I thought that my statement after “either way” clarified how terrible the decision was and the detrimental impact it will have on families in need.
 
The GOP, once again, is conceding that A) they never cared about governing in the first place, and B) they see Barrett as the only way they can maintain power. This is a risk they could've avoided (like Trump catching COVID) but like all their stupid risks, it will probably backfire. They rig this election and it's gonna get real bad, real fast. I think back to the summer and how hot it was getting, but now more folks have passed, a stimulus has been canned, and folks are definitely pissed with these clowns.

A quote comes to mind here, something like "if you take away a person's ability to hold politicians accountable with votes, they'll protest, and if you take away their ability to protest, then they'll be on your doorstep". I'm paraphrasing, but....yeah. Their internal calculus is obviously geared towards cheating to maintain power and using brute force against dissenters. So it seems.
 
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