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One of the biggest gatherings of clowns since Ringling Bros. went under:
That article led me to look up the band Power Trip
Didn't know I had a F trump band right in my backyard
 
Biden really all in there in the head, wonder if hes truelly able to lead the country.

If anyone watches Designated Survivor *SPOILERS FOR S2*


The president is on the ropes because people dont think hes mentally capable of leading the country because of his wifes death. They were going to have him step down or vsomething.


I know its a TV show but what if something similar happens with Biden and people question his mental health?

the main thing for me is, is that he will put actual experts in charge of departments that they actually have experience in, similar to Obama. He’s not going to put an anti-environmentalist and somebody who is against the epa, in charge of the epa. He’s not going to put his entire family in positions they have no business being the head of. He’s not going to put the VPin charge of a public health task force. He is older than we’d like, but that doesn’t mean he can’t compose an extremely capable government. It simply cannot get any worse than drumpf.
 


After three weeks in jail, one of the suspects charged with plotting to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is asking the judge to reconsider her decision to keep him locked up: He's worried about getting the COVID-19 virus.

Kaleb Franks, arraigned in federal court in Kent County, Michigan, faces charges related to what the FBI says was a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.


Kaleb Franks of Waterford, a recovering heroin addict who says he has turned his life around after doing time for cocaine and home invasion, has diabetes and high cholesterol, takes insulin daily and fears contracting COVID-19 in jail, his lawyer argued in court documents filed this week.

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Is no one scared of the supposed 'Shy Trump voter' phenomenon?

I'm hearing polls might again be undercounting Trump because in 2020 a lot of trump voters aren't going to admit they're voting for him
 
Is no one scared of the supposed 'Shy Trump voter' phenomenon?

I'm hearing polls might again be undercounting Trump because in 2020 a lot of trump voters aren't going to admit they're voting for him

Not particularly. They said the same thing about 2016, and even with a Trump win it fell in line with what polls were showing in almost every state inside margin of error.
 
Not particularly. They said the same thing about 2016, and it fell in line with what polls were showing in almost every state inside margin of error.
I've heard this too, but, I also hear that the shy trump voter would be more pronounced in 2020 given the political climate.

In 2016 there were lots of ppl who were outspoken about hating Hilary or not liking both sides and that was more socially acceptable to say in 2016 than saying you like Trump in 2020
 
I think in 2016 the moderate suburban whites sided with trump bc the establishment was too strong to “change anything” so hey “we’ll take the lesser of the two evils... besides trump will tone down once his term starts

4 years later

I think trump has even turned those moderate whites off with his craziness

Hence, there will be no “silent white voter”. His supporters are no longer the silent ones and he will be surprised at the record loss he will take Tuesday.
 
I think in 2016 the moderate suburban whites sided with trump bc the establishment was too strong to “change anything” so hey “we’ll take the lesser of the two evils... besides trump will tone down once his term starts

4 years later

I think trump has even turned those moderate whites off with his craziness

Hence, there will be no “silent white voter”. His supporters are no longer the silent ones and he will be surprised at the record loss he will take Tuesday.
Well.

I'm hoping you are right.

I'm still nervous though
 
I'm not worried about shy voters.

2016: 138 million voted (56% of the electorate)
2020: 150 million projected to vote (90 million have already voted)

Those extra 12 million who didn't vote in 2016 are not MAGAs. They sat it out because they didn't care or because they disliked both Trump and Hillary. The question is what is driving them to vote now? Either they are ok with Biden, they are worried about the pandemic, they hate Trump even more now, or they are worried about Biden increasing taxes.

I would guess that 80% of those 12 million are voting for Biden.

Then there are the 2016 voters who may switch from Trump -> Biden or from Hillary -> Trump. Again, I can't imagine many people who voted for Hillary who are now going to vote for Trump. But there's definitely a sizable fraction going the other way.

So it's those two categories I'm worried about: new voters and those switching sides. And also the Kanye effect, which could be VERY INTERESTING!
 
I think raising taxes shouldn't be the deciding factor of the vote.

I actually read an article this week about how no matter who wins, that they are probably raising taxes anyway and that the stock ppl are already preparing accordingly
 
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