***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[RustyShackleford]

Propaganda during the Trump years was turned up to 11. "Lie until they repeat what was said"

I got people outside the US telling me that there were no new wars under Trump, and I didn't even know where to start because they're in their own information bubble.

Contrast that with the hyperbole of the main post-Obama criticism (drone program) of the Obama era. Trump stopped reporting the activities and casualties of the drone program in 2017, and nobody batted an eye because we were all showered with daily scandals.

We have to protect Information. It's paramount if democracy is to survive.

My girlfriend's cousins is a massive Obama hating leftist. The dude calls Obama a war criminal and said in all seriousness that one positive with Trump is that we are not recklessly bombing people overseas anymore. Dude was legit shocked when informed him that Trump has caused way more damage in four years than Obama did in his 8.

Even after that, he still said "Well we all know Trump is bad but Obama....".

I was like "Just a minute ago you said Obama should be sent to the Hague, but now you know Trump is worse and you just shrug it off". He really had a hard time seeing how his being reactionary to one group, and being desensitized to another, is a bad state of mind to be in. Especially when it comes down to it, you admit the first group is better than the other.

Conservatives are worse. They really think Trump is some anti-war president and is the touch enforcer keeping everyone in check at the same time. Delusions all around.

 

[Brownstone]

My girlfriend's cousins is a massive Obama hating leftist. The dude calls Obama a war criminal and said in all seriousness that one positive with Trump is that we are not recklessly bombing people overseas anymore. Dude was legit shocked when informed him that Trump has caused way more damage in four years than Obama did in his 8.

Even after that, he still said "Well we all know Trump is bad but Obama....".

I was like "Just a minute ago you said Obama should be sent to the Hague, but now you know Trump is worse and you just shrug it off". He really had a hard time seeing how his being reactionary to one group, and being desensitized to another, is a bad state of mind to be in. Especially when it comes down to it, you admit the first group is better than the other.

Conservatives are worse. They really think Trump is some anti-war president and is the touch enforcer keeping everyone in check at the same time. Delusions all around.

PREACHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Don't even get me started with conservatives and China, our convos usually started with them saying something along the lines of "atleast he is doing something" and ended with, "I know he caved but just wait until his second term he'll show them!"

I have to be honest though, right or wrong every conservative I talk to was/is on board with Obamas drone program. Of course you have to suggest it to them, they don't just come out and say they liked anything he did but they do admit it

 

[RustyShackleford]

PREACHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Don't even get me started with conservatives and China, our convos usually started with them saying something along the lines of "atleast he is doing something" and ended with, "I know he caved but just wait until his second term he'll show them!"

I have to be honest though, right or wrong every conservative I talk to was/is on board with Obamas drone program. Of course you have to suggest it to them, they don't just come out and say they liked anything he did but they do admit it

Brah so many conservatives at my job be listing "tough on China" as a reason they like Trump foreign policy

When I ask them what achievements has he had in that, crickets. They cite tariffs and my comeback is "So taxing America consumers is a win against China?". More crickets

But they maintain he is tough.

 

[Brownstone]

I strongly believe Preet Bharara is the best man for this job

Naw bro, miss me with him, he has ZERO chance thank god

 

[RustyShackleford]

Doug Jones is a solid pick.

I would prefer someone like Booker, but that is because the dude is so much better than most on civil rights. But he has zero chance of getting confirmed

So Dougie is a great pick all things considered.

 

[IATT]

 

[stuntman mike]

$600?! it's almost as if the government doesn't understand what's dropping on snkrs and supreme this month! imma need much more than $600
hopefully they do another round of the EIDL so i can dwalk31 it and flim flam the government too.

 

[IATT]

 

[Belgium]

Naw bro, miss me with him, he has ZERO chance thank god

What's the problem with him?

 

[gry60]

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Dude probably attended the Emperor Bokassa School of Dictatorship. Won't be surprised if he tries to crown himself on January 19th.

Don't even get me started with conservatives and China, our convos usually started with them saying something along the lines of "atleast he is doing something" and ended with, "I know he caved but just wait until his second term he'll show them!"

"Only Dear Leader Don knew how good soybeans were. They were so good, he told Chy-Na to only buy 8% of them, and they listened and bought from Brazil. Stupid Brazilians!"

 

[Belgium]

 

[RustyShackleford]

I am reading the pages I missed before I responded to Osh.

Damn, he made a bigger *** of himself than I realized

And mans really said people should admit this is about punishing the police.

Good grief

 

[Nike Jordan]

Elizabeth Warren randomly appeared in a TMZ video when they were interviewing WWE wrestler Seth Rollins in 2016.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Elizabeth Warren randomly appeared in a TMZ video when they were interviewing WWE wrestler Seth Rollins in 2016.

Still not the GOAT unintentional photobomb

T.O on South Beach holds the title

 

[dreamer23]

she slept with a couple of "midwestern" mayors...sheesh...

 

[wr]

Gaseous zinc chloride, also known as hexite, is more than an alternative type of tear gas. Because it contains the super-hot gaseous forms of both chloride ions and zinc, a heavy metal, hexite plumes are highly mobile and extremely dangerous to most forms of life. The chloride ions increase the uptake of zinc particles by exposed cells on the skin or mucous membranes. Zinc can accumulate in tissues and organs, then mobilize later and cause a new set of symptoms. The most striking effects of zinc chloride toxicity in the street — vomiting, burning skin, coughing — are only the first onslaught of a chronic, unpredictable respiratory condition that can cause severe liver damage, fatigue, weight loss, and anorexia, in addition to difficulty breathing.

Zinc toxicity sharply contrasts with the effects of tear gas, which tend to be excruciating but short-lived, with dangerous exceptions. “[Conventional tear gas] causes pain through a specific mechanism,” says B. Zane Horowitz, PhD, an emergency toxicologist in the Portland area and author of a recent op-ed decrying the city’s use of tear gas on protesters in the journal Toxicology Communications. Tear gas shorts the nervous system’s pain response, essentially creating the experience of pain without doing lasting damage — most of the time. Still, says Horowitz, “There’s no reason to have pain inflicted on you if you haven’t done anything wrong.”

 

[elpablo21]

 

[IATT]

 

[dacomeup]

I am reading the pages I missed before I responded to Osh.

Damn, he made a bigger *** of himself than I realized

And mans really said people should admit this is about punishing the police.

Good grief

I actually had that post quoted in my drafts with the response “Jesus Christ” and got busy and forgot to send. He might as well go join Greenwald and them now. That was the most asinine and dismissive post he made all day, which is saying a lot for all of those posts.

 

[IATT]

 

[had pants]

 

[RustyShackleford]

I actually had that post quoted in my drafts with the response “Jesus Christ” and got busy and forgot to send. He might as well go join Greenwald and them now. That was the most asinine and dismissive post he made all day, which is saying a lot for all of those posts.

Yeah, I was gonna respond to it directly but I felt it would just set things off again.

I have been harassed by the police since I came to this country, live through stop-n-frisk, watch my friends and family get violated, and was nearly killed by the NYPD one night; but I have zero ******* interest at getting back at the police as an institution. I am not sympathetic to the people that push the slogan or policy solutions of 'Defund the Police" because I want to punish the police.

I am trying to avoid other people, especially black people, having to go through that same hell. Like every single person I know that has committed their lives to local activism on this issue say they are doing it to protect future generations.

Dude is tying himself in knots because he can't accept that people that are just as informed, educated, and with more direct experience with American police might see things differently. They must be illogical if they disagree with him

Dude so in his feelings people can't see he is and only he is right, so he crawls up his own *** so he can hear his hypocrisy reverberate off his cheeks and create his own personal echo chamber.

Pure buffoonery

 

[cosmiccoffee9]

Gaseous zinc chloride, also known as hexite, is more than an alternative type of tear gas. Because it contains the super-hot gaseous forms of both chloride ions and zinc, a heavy metal, hexite plumes are highly mobile and extremely dangerous to most forms of life. The chloride ions increase the uptake of zinc particles by exposed cells on the skin or mucous membranes. Zinc can accumulate in tissues and organs, then mobilize later and cause a new set of symptoms. The most striking effects of zinc chloride toxicity in the street — vomiting, burning skin, coughing — are only the first onslaught of a chronic, unpredictable respiratory condition that can cause severe liver damage, fatigue, weight loss, and anorexia, in addition to difficulty breathing.

Zinc toxicity sharply contrasts with the effects of tear gas, which tend to be excruciating but short-lived, with dangerous exceptions. “[Conventional tear gas] causes pain through a specific mechanism,” says B. Zane Horowitz, PhD, an emergency toxicologist in the Portland area and author of a recent op-ed decrying the city’s use of tear gas on protesters in the journal Toxicology Communications. Tear gas shorts the nervous system’s pain response, essentially creating the experience of pain without doing lasting damage — most of the time. Still, says Horowitz, “There’s no reason to have pain inflicted on you if you haven’t done anything wrong.”

regular reminder that usage of chemical weapons is considered an international war crime on fields of battle.

the NFL playing is unnecessary and dumb, but there´s a special disgust in the pit of my stomach for the profiteers running the NCAA this year...all the risk of both football and pandemic with none of the paycheck.

we can also talk about how free majority black labor subsidizes entire rural college towns some other time.

 

[dacomeup]

I have been harassed by the police since I came to this country, live through stop-n-frisk, watch my friends and family get violated, and was nearly killed by the NYPD one night; but I have zero ****ing interest at getting back at the police. I am not sympathetic to the people that push the slogan or policy solution of 'Defund the Police" because I want to punish the police.

I am trying to avoid other people, especially black people, having to go through that same hell well.

Exactly, with what myself, family, friends and loved ones have experienced and known others to experience, defunding the police would be a weak *** punishment anyways . NYPD surrounded me and a group of unarmed friends in a whip, pointing guns at us, had us up against walls being searched, and then threatened invasive cavity searches once we called them out on their BS, and the best I can do for “punishment” is ask that that we reallocate funding and reinvest them into addressing mental health, housing, education, etc. Strawmanning when your argument stinks 101.

 

[IATT]