***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[RustyShackleford]

The Senate Intel committee are about to make a joint statement soon.

Things might get even more lit soon.

 

[elpablo21]

how much time is he looking at?

Up to 240 years or...probation?

 

[Based Jesus]

Are they gonna retry Manafort on those 10 other charges?

dwalk31 , he needs your law expertise

 

[dacomeup]

Agreed. But we can probably agree that President Trump does not always make the smartest decisions, based on his twitter alone.

Or his businesses, relationships, people he's hired in the White House. The list goes on.

 

[nawghtyhare]

Manafort and Cohen probably looking at a total of 3-4 years each.

I doubt Manafort goes at all.

wild how years would be totally different if they were black

 

[DADDYFATSACKS]

dwalk31 , he needs your law expertise

Screaming son.

 

[rolaholic]

 

[RustyShackleford]

dwalk31 , he needs your law expertise

Let me save him the trouble:

The fries are done in 5 mins

5:30 if the customer wants them extra crispy

 

[nawghtyhare]

Up to 240 years or...probation?

since when they give probation
on tax fraud???
i swear man

 

[dwalk31]

Up to 240 years or...probation?

I can realistically see probation and a very hefty fine. Especially since they were all financial crimes. But 3-4 years max. Probably won't serve it.

 

[aepps20]

You LIBS BETTA STOP CELEBRATING RIGHT NOW. COAL GANG HAS BEEN MERCIFUL THUS FAR, DON'T PUSH US.

RustyShackleford is done.

After Cohen and Paulie are pardoned.

After the red wave.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Butterbean

Muerto

 

[stuntman mike]

 

[rexanglorum]

There is no reason to close polling places aside from voter suppression. The only pidly fig leaf you could give is the cost of polling stations which is Horse****. Polling places cost almost nothing at the margins, you give them ballots and machines and the polling places are manned by volunteers.

If your State is so hard up for cash that it truly cannot afford to keep all of its polling location from past elections open then shut them down in affluent, disproportionately white neighborhoods where folks can drive an extra fifteen minutes and are more likely to have jobs that lets them take a few hours off to vote during non peak hours.

There is no excuse for what Georgia and many other States are doing.

 

[flacobey]

The law and order President!

 

[Armada]

 

[DADDYFATSACKS]

dwalk31 I need your law expertise. Are they gonna retry Paulie Malinaggi on those 10 other charges?

 

[hand2handking]

Manafort Found Guilty on 8 Counts in Tax Fraud Trial


Manafort found guilty on 8 counts in tax fraud trial originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

After nearly four days of deliberation, a jury found former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort guilty on eight counts of financial crimes, marking the first major prosecution won by special counsel Robert Mueller in his investigation of Russian meddling during the 2016 election.

Manafort was found guilty on the eight counts of the special counsel’s 18-count indictment. Each count carries a hefty prison term – when combined, he is facing a maximum of 80 years in prison, but at sentencing the total will likely be less. The federal judge declared a mistrial in the other ten counts after jurors could not reach consensus.

Special counsel Robert Mueller and his team of prosecutors secured an 18-count indictment on tax- and bank-fraud charges against Manafort in February. At trial, the special counsel rested its case after parading more than two dozen accountants and associates of Manafort over the course of two weeks, painting the longtime Republican operative as a man who shielded millions of dollars from American authorities in order to fund his lavish lifestyle.


During one of the most dramatic portions of the trial, defense attorneys representing Manafort sought to shift blame onto Manafort’s long-time business partner and Trump campaign deputy manager, Rick Gates. During his testimony, Gates admitted to stealing from Manafort and using that money to finance at least one extramarital affair.

Last Tuesday, Manafort’s attorneys rested their case, electing not to call any witnesses or mount a defense.

In closing arguments on Wednesday, prosecutors slammed Manafort as a liar and a schemer. "When you follow the trail of Mr. Manafort's money, it's littered with lies,” special counsel prosecutor Greg Andres said, telling jurors that Manafort is “not above the law.”

MORE: With closing arguments wrapped, Manafort case goes to jury


"He lied to his tax preparers, he lied to his bookkeeper, because he wanted to hide that money and avoid paying taxes," Andres added, emphasizing the mountain of documents presented to jurors – not the witnesses – as evidence of Manafort’s guilt.

Defense counsel disagreed. Attorneys Richard Westling and Kevin Downing sought to point the finger at Gates, who they say was the mastermind behind Manafort’s legal woes, making the case to jurors that prosecutors failed to meet the burden of proof in charging Manafort with all these crimes.

MORE: Manafort trial, first in Mueller investigation, gets underway

Having been found guilty, Manafort, 69, faces the possibility of serving the rest of his life in prison. Manafort will be the second figure in Mueller’s investigation to serve a prison sentence. Dutch lawyer Alex van der Zwaan pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators in April and served a 30-day prison term.

This past Friday, President Donald Trump expressed sympathy for his former campaign chairman, who he called a “good person,” telling reporters gathered at the White House that “it’s very sad what they’ve done to Paul Manafort.” Asked whether he will pardon Manafort, Trump declined to answer.

Manafort faces another trial brought by the special counsel next month in Washington, D.C., where Manafort has been charged with obstruction of justice, conspiracy, and foreign lobbying violations.

 

[grnd7]

Manafort max is 14 years
Guidelines 7-9 years
Judges usually sentence less than the guidelines, more than likely 3-4 years. He still has a trial in DC and he is looking at more time for those charges than in the trial that ended today.

 

[DADDYFATSACKS]

Manafort max is 14 years
Guidelines 7-9 years
Judges usually sentence less than the guidelines, more than likely 3-4 years. He still has a trial in DC and he is looking at more time for those charges than in the trial that ended today.

3-4 is better than nothing.

 

[aepps20]

No worries, Coalition got Paulie and Cohen.

 

[dwalk31]

dwalk31 I need your law expertise. Are they gonna retry Paulie Malinaggi on those 10 other charges?

I don't know. Honestly, I could see them using the other charges to reach some type of plea deal with him. Especially because of the enormous cost he would be facing with another trial. All reports point to Mr. Manafort seeming unbothered by this. So he will probably get pardoned. And pay hefty fines.

 

[011781]

Sarah Sanders next appearance gonna be flames

 

[DADDYFATSACKS]

I don't know. Honestly, I could see them using the other charges to reach some type of plea deal with him. Especially because of the enormous cost he would be facing with another trial. All reports point to Mr. Manafort seeming unbothered by this. So he will probably get pardoned. And pay hefty fines.

Why is he unbothered? Son isn’t going home today.

 

[blastercombo]

“But has any one been arrested yeeeeeee.....ohhhh...... “