Yeah but Zach plays for the sorry *** Jets. Had Zach played for SF, he'd have at least 1 win
Yes, insufferable. You're blaming the L on a guy who put us in position to win. Jerry Rice once said "Great players aren't always great, they're great when they need to be." Jimmy is not a great QB, no argument there. But he was great when he needed to be. And, no, I would not be as critical of the secondary if we won. Why? Because despite getting burned all night it meant they did what they needed to for us to secure a W. But they didn't. Would I be as critical of the run game as I am today? No. Why? Because Jimmy made up for their complete lack of production. The bottom line is Jimmy got us the lead and put us in a very favorable position and the defense completely choked.
Jimmy was sacked 4 times. The WR corps ran 10-15 yard routes and their QB was under duress for a good amount of his dropbacks. And GB ran 2 high safeties and dared the running game to beat them, they didn't.
moiety
My position is not necessarily that Trey is better than Jimmy right now, nor is it that he should necessarily be starting right now (On record saying after the bye). So no, I dont think I know better than Shanahan. Here are some of my opinions:
dland24
well said
-You only get so much better by sitting. And experience is the thing Trey lacks most.
-The offense that Jimmy is currently running isnt some super advanced, high level throws type offense. Look at the pass chart. Most of the pass attempts are in a box in the middle of the field. Nothing on the sidelines, nothing downfield, just nothing but short, safe throws. Most of Jimmy's completions are to WIDE OPEN receivers (havent seen this weeks update but after week 2, our WRs had the highest separation on completions in the NFL, per PFF). Is it that hard to believe that Trey Lance couldnt replicate what Jimmy is doing here?
-The "growing pains" and mistakes that he would make will NOT be the same thing as you are seeing with other rookie QBs. They are all on trash teams. Trey would have by far the best supporting cast. And lets be real here. Jimmy makes tons of "rookie" mistakes too. Even with potential mistakes from Trey, I dont see the dropoff being incedibly dramatic, and there are actually aspects of offense that would immediately improve.
-Until we fix our secondary and get our running game back (the latter I expect with Wilson, the former I dont expect at all), I dont see this as a Superbowl contending team. I think its like a 10-7 team. So why not get the future of our franchise some much needed experience?
Its not that I hate Jimmy. I just dont think he is anything special. Jimmy is almost never the reason we win a game.
No, the wr corps run 10-15 (maybe 7-12) yard routes every game. Not just this one against gb. Yes, he was sacked 4 times. But there was also a huge chunk of the game were he had a lot of time. He just isn't good. He consistently throws into coverage no matter how much time he has. If it weren't for the great catches under duress by the wr corps, there's no telling how much they would've lost by.
Jimmy G has throw 7 passes this year that were more than 15 yards which would be good enough for second to last in the NFL on a per game basis right next to Andy Dalton. Why do we think Lance can’t do this as well while also adding an element in the ground?
Interesting that Cousins and Jimmy both at 7% on their deep rate while pretty much everyone else save for Fields, Dalton, and Ryan are above 10%. These the 2 Shanahan "favorites " lolJimmy G has throw 7 passes this year that were more than 15 yards which would be good enough for second to last in the NFL on a per game basis right next to Andy Dalton. Why do we think Lance can’t do this as well while also adding an element in the ground?
