right on, thats what i was thinking, harsh abrasive ingredients etc. i googled local shoe stores, not like foot locker or finish line, but like a small chain that sells like dress shoes. i thought they'd have something specific for patent leather but no luck. i googled patent leather shine, cleaner etc. but its difficult to almost gamble, by using something i dont know much about (other than what the description the seller is giving) on my favorite shoes. i'd flip out if i messed up my Jordans i've had for 10+ years. thats why this site (specifically this thread) is good cuz you guys may have already found something. im still looking tho. right now im checking out "collonil lack polish" patent leather care/protector on ebay. vaseline is kinda like the lotion i saw on youtube, but there has to be a safe product specifically for shining patent leather. response/advice much appreciated