Official Toronto Raptors 2009-2010 Season Thread. The Raptors are garbage. That is all.

[clutchshooter]

who remembers when babcock was the gm?

when chris was still a skinny sophmore getting knocked around jahidi white.

when a 6'7" mo pete was routinely getting stuffed by the rim on dunk attempts.

when vc was screwing the raps by putting up 15 ppg.

those were the days.

 

[eightysbaby]

 

[ballinboykz]

Originally Posted by Clutchshooter


who remembers when babcock was the gm?

when chris was still a skinny sophmore getting knocked around jahidi white.

when a 6'7" mo pete was routinely getting stuffed by the rim on dunk attempts.

when vc was screwing the raps by putting up 15 ppg.

those were the days.

I see what you did there.

Im still recocvering from a Riders loss in the Grey Cup. I'll be back in a few days

 

[clutchshooter]

Originally Posted by BallinBoykz

Originally Posted by Clutchshooter


who remembers when babcock was the gm?

when chris was still a skinny sophmore getting knocked around jahidi white.

when a 6'7" mo pete was routinely getting stuffed by the rim on dunk attempts.

when vc was screwing the raps by putting up 15 ppg.

those were the days.

I see what you did there.

Im still recocvering from a Riders loss in the Grey Cup. I'll be back in a few days

too many men on the field!

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[quik1987]

You forgot our best draft pick ever

 

[DYNAMICS]

Wizards tonight.

 

[clutchshooter]

wiz by a billion.

 

[brrraptors]

gil about to drop 82 on the raps and have his career take off

 

[brownin187]

we need to blow a team out to gain our confidence back. i think this is the game.

 

[brrraptors]

wright is a tool

that pass attempt to bargnani was straight silly

boykins being guarded by bargnani was a funny sight, his jumper was gonna smack andrea in the face if anything. watching boykins reminds me of that onefriend's lil brother thats always out there in random pick up games playing with the big boys

 

[rap sizzle]

Torkuglu sucks. This idiot lost this game for us. Clutch my ***. Again, stupid Raptor fans are cheering for pizza when they should instead be upset with a lossto bad team.

 

[physicx]

we're gonna give the nets their first win of the season

i can feel it

 

[osh kosh bosh]

ATL is going to kill us.

 

[blaxoid]

Man it's depressing in this thread.

 

[carlos tevez]

I hate how easy the Toronto media is on the Raptors.

"Raptors get out-hustled"

"Raps come out flat"

"Raps get out-rebounded"

"Unlucky night for the Raptors"

All these headlines suggest that the team played poorly and their problems could easily be fixed just by playing "harder", with more"focus" and "energy". The media points to guys like Pops and Reggie Evans as possible sparks to improving this team's play.

This kind of irresponsible journalism diverts the public's attention away from this team's flawed foundation. BC has been in charge of this team for 3+years now and I've yet to hear or read any criticism of him. No one is pointing fingers at Bosh, Bargnani or Calderon (the 3 constants on this team overthe past few years). No one has questionned the Hedo signing. Instead, it's "Give Hedo some time to adjust to a new system". No one isquestionning Canadian golden boy coach Jay Triano who had a terrible record last season and is doing just as bad this year with a seemingly more talentedsquad.

I guess it has to do with these media folks who do not want to lose their "insider" access to the Raptors. The Toronto sports media is a pretty smallgroup...3-4 local newspapers as well as 3-4 local sports channels. No one would dare say anything bad about this team for fear of harming their relationshipwith the team.

Same crap has been ongoing with the Leafs. You never hear anyone mentioning how talentless the Leafs are...rather, losses are blamed on "Leafs take toomany penalties", "Leafs unable to solve Ryan Miller", "Leafs unable to break shoot-out jinx" etc. etc.

Raps fans need to realize this team is talented but not good enough to win a playoff series in the East. Not this year, not next year, not ever.

It's going to be really tough to fix this team. Bargnani's contract is fine considering he was making around $8.5 mill/year under his #1 overall pickcontract. Bosh is gone soon so there's going to be $15 mill in space right there. Hedo and Calderon make too much money compared to what they'reproducing for this team. There is absolutely no reason why DeRozan should still be the starting SG on this team. When he's on the floor, Raptor opponentsdo not need to worry about guarding him.

When Jarret Jack is your 6th man then you know your team is hopeless.

 

[ballinboykz]

Clutch, I hate you.

Love,
Boykz

 

[damnthosejs]

CT,

It's the mere fact Triano's a Canadian that's why no one's dared to question him...

I have no idea why BC gave him that contract. I'm well aware of the fact that he had to inherit a team that was outright messed up from the beginning, butit's the same old problem over and over again: defensive toughness. They have their moments but they can't stay consistent. Hustling in the 1st - 3rdquarter aint enough to win a game.

 

[carlos tevez]

Originally Posted by damnTHOSEjs

CT,

It's the mere fact Triano's a Canadian that's why no one's dared to question him...

I have no idea why BC gave him that contract. I'm well aware of the fact that he had to inherit a team that was outright messed up from the beginning, but it's the same old problem over and over again: defensive toughness. They have their moments but they can't stay consistent. Hustling in the 1st - 3rd quarter aint enough to win a game.

Triano got the contract because he's cheap and MLSE is still paying Sam Mitchell $4 million to sit at home in Atlanta Georgia.

The defensive toughness issue is Colangelo's fault. I cant blame Bargnani, Bosh, Hedo and Calderon for not being tough. They're all finesse players whodo not like contact. The GM of the team has to know the strengths and weaknesses of his players and build the rest of the team accordingly.

You gotta love the Hedo signing. Hedo is a good player but not what the Raptors needed. What does he do that Bargnani/Bosh can't do? We needed a garbageman/role player/slasher in that 3-spot...a Trevor Ariza/Ron Artest style player who'll just provide intensity to the team. What does Hedo do? Just campsaround the 3pt arc, makes fancy passes, hits some 3s...basically building on some of this team's strengths without providing a new dynamic on offense ordefense.

Of course the media will point to issues such as "defensive toughness", "consistency", "hustling" etc. etc. as if these leopardscan change their spots over the course of the season. Nothing is going to change.

The Raptors are gonna go on a run later on this season where their jump shots start falling against weaker teams, they'll win 4-5 games in a row, hope willbe restored, and then they'll get taken to the cleaners once again by stronger teams. When the losses start mounting, the team and media will point totoughness, consistency and hustling, and the vicious cycle will continue where the team and the fans ignore the causes of our problems.

 

[chris boshs neck]

Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Originally Posted by damnTHOSEjs

CT,




It's the mere fact Triano's a Canadian that's why no one's dared to question him...

I have no idea why BC gave him that contract. I'm well aware of the fact that he had to inherit a team that was outright messed up from the beginning, but
it's the same old problem over and over again: defensive toughness. They have their moments but they can't stay consistent. Hustling in the 1st - 3rd
quarter aint enough to win a game.

Triano got the contract because he's cheap and MLSE is still paying Sam Mitchell $4 million to sit at home in Atlanta Georgia.

The defensive toughness issue is Colangelo's fault. I cant blame Bargnani, Bosh, Hedo and Calderon for not being tough. They're all finesse players who do not like contact. The GM of the team has to know the strengths and weaknesses of his players and build the rest of the team accordingly.

You gotta love the Hedo signing. Hedo is a good player but not what the Raptors needed. What does he do that Bargnani/Bosh can't do? We needed a garbage man/role player/slasher in that 3-spot...a Trevor Ariza/Ron Artest style player who'll just provide intensity to the team. What does Hedo do? Just camps around the 3pt arc, makes fancy passes, hits some 3s...basically building on some of this team's strengths without providing a new dynamic on offense or defense.

Of course the media will point to issues such as "defensive toughness", "consistency", "hustling" etc. etc. as if these leopards can change their spots over the course of the season. Nothing is going to change.

The Raptors are gonna go on a run later on this season where their jump shots start falling against weaker teams, they'll win 4-5 games in a row, hope will be restored, and then they'll get taken to the cleaners once again by stronger teams. When the losses start mounting, the team and media will point to toughness, consistency and hustling, and the vicious cycle will continue where the team and the fans ignore the causes of our problems.

Triano is NOT the problem. This is a good coach in a terrible situation.

Calderon is trash, plain and simple. His stats are inflated from players hitting jumpshots off his chest passes. He does not push the ball well and does nottake many risks on offense. He is also terrible at Defense and gets lit up what it seems every game.

Jack is a bum as well. Dude has zero shot and is constantly clanking jumpers at all the wrong times. He is a good back up PG but that is all.

Hedo at 5 years for 50 million set this franchise back 5 years. This dude is 30 and looks washed up already. He is slow and unathletic now, imagine him in 5YEARS! Plus he has a 15% trade kicker which makes his contract almost impossible to deal. I don't know what BC was thinking. We would have been better offsinging nobody and holding onto the money for 2010.

Bosh should be traded. he is going to want over 20mil a season. He is simply not worth that. He is bad on D,takes to many jumpers,slows our offensive flowdown, holds the ball to long, is not clutch,soft....ect. While Bosh would be a GREAT 2nd option on another team, his role on toronto is just a recipe forsuccess.

Bargs at 10mil a year is a steal. This guy is playing very good ball for a great contract. He is being forced to play out of position as well and is notgetting many looks. How many times did Bargs get a play run for him in the 4th last game? Get a big like okafor beside him and let the man go to work at the PFposition.

Demar will be alright tho and belli is nice

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Who should be starting other than Derozan?

Wright? Weems?

 

[carlos tevez]

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Gosh darn it. If only the Raptors came through in the clutch like they've usually done in the past

Media garbage at its finest. I remember that season under Kevin O'Neill we lost around 20 games by 5 pts or less. Of course there was little talk about howcrap the team was, the media talk surrounded this team's inability to close out games.

Who should be starting other than Derozan?

Wright? Weems?
I'm beginning to think that having DeRozan start will only stunt his development. What's the point of having him stand in the corner onoffense with 4 other scorers on the floor? At least with him coming off the bench he'll be given more touches and more freedom on offense. I bet he'daverage more than the 6 ppg that he's averaging as a starter.

Anyways, another L coming up tonight against the Hawks.

Sam Mitchell will be sitting courtside next to Jermaine Dupri and Usher rockin' a Joe Johnson jersey over his Armani suit while thinking about how he'sgoing to spend the $4 million the Raptors owe him for doing nothing

 

[bangdak]

^what the hell d o you expect the media to say...
"oh yet again, these horrendous raptors take yet another lose to the worse record NJ nets" or something? who the hell would want to go to games afterthat?
and i would certaintly blame bosh bargs and jose for defensive toughness. its the players problem that they're soft.

 

[daprescription]

Team is horrible

. Give us back Marco.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Jay's time is ticking, the team looks like they are quitting on him.

 

[brrraptors]

75pts in the HALF?

athletic, great transition offense, physical on both ends, unselfish passing, tough rebounding on both ends.. any one of those usually can beat the raps, factthat atl does all of that, this game is a joke.