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Oh, we talking bout Watchmen? Spoilers.
I'm looking at the movie as only a movie. I loved Rorshach. They really made Dr. Manhattan work after the trailers made him look dumb. The Comedian was good, Nite Owl was perfect and (if you've seen the extended cut) that scene with the old man Nite Owl fighting those punks was so well done. Plus that part when Manhattan has to kill Rorshach was right on point. And I loved that Bob Dylan intro and the whole birth of Dr. Manhattan montage. Loved it.
But...it's a murder mystery, right? So why would you cast this thin dude as the murderer and then show his silhouette while he's killing the guy in the very first scene, making it so completely obvious...that no one else has this body type, so it's gotta be him. And then the hit him with the guyliner, and everything about Ozymandias' character screamed bad guy, from the second he said his first words. It defeats the purpose of the story.
It's supposed to be this big twist, when the 'goodest' guy there is behind all this. And the emotional core of this movie, the glue that holds all the important characters together is Laurie Jupiter. But Malin Akerman isn't good at all. Easily the worst acting of the whole cast. Which sucks, because she has all the emotional pivots of the story, except the scene when Doc gets mad at his cancer ex and when Comedian tries to take her mom's yambs.
So when we find out what Ozy's been up to...doesn't really hit, because they set the character up poorly, and Matthew Goode was probably miscast. And when Doc realizes humanity's worth saving on Mars...it doesn't hit, because Malin did such a weak job.
And then on top of that, it felt wrong that a movie tried to take such a serious approach to how the world would react to a real superperson and the ripples it'd cause through history, but then they have this cartoony 300/Blade style of fighting. Winter Soldier's fighting was more grounded. I mean, it looked cool, but it undermined the kinda story they're trying to tell. They have these huge, realistic themes and consequences, but then suddenly this 100lb chick is on her Alice from RE, and suddenly they've taken death off the table. Such a life and death story, and you're saying these normal people are practically superheroes anyways.
And to really nitpick...just on a scene for scene level. A lot of times it felt like they'd start somewhere interesting and then just walk around in circles in scenes. The whole narrative was stagnant and sorta went through the paces. It was like they were putting on a play. When you trip on Ozymandias (the murder mystery for Rorschach and Comedian) and the Laurie (emotional glue for Doc Manhattan and Nite Owl), what are you left with? Some interesting, ambitious ideas, dialogue and characters, and some loose scenes that look really cool and sometimes work.
I like that there's nothing like it. And it is trying to be so much more than 95% of comic book movies. And I love the idea of Doc Manhattan that they made real. And Rorshach went hard. And Patrick Wilson went up in my book cuz of this. It's just...it's not really a movie. It doesn't move. Look at V for Vendetta. Just as ambitious and thoughtful as this one, but that movie moved, and it wasn't perfect, but it worked.
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Cliffs: Malin Akerman and Matthew Goode weren't good in this movie, and it sucks, because they were the 2 most important characters. A lof of things worked, but since they didn't the movie didn't imo.
I'm looking at the movie as only a movie. I loved Rorshach. They really made Dr. Manhattan work after the trailers made him look dumb. The Comedian was good, Nite Owl was perfect and (if you've seen the extended cut) that scene with the old man Nite Owl fighting those punks was so well done. Plus that part when Manhattan has to kill Rorshach was right on point. And I loved that Bob Dylan intro and the whole birth of Dr. Manhattan montage. Loved it.
But...it's a murder mystery, right? So why would you cast this thin dude as the murderer and then show his silhouette while he's killing the guy in the very first scene, making it so completely obvious...that no one else has this body type, so it's gotta be him. And then the hit him with the guyliner, and everything about Ozymandias' character screamed bad guy, from the second he said his first words. It defeats the purpose of the story.
It's supposed to be this big twist, when the 'goodest' guy there is behind all this. And the emotional core of this movie, the glue that holds all the important characters together is Laurie Jupiter. But Malin Akerman isn't good at all. Easily the worst acting of the whole cast. Which sucks, because she has all the emotional pivots of the story, except the scene when Doc gets mad at his cancer ex and when Comedian tries to take her mom's yambs.
So when we find out what Ozy's been up to...doesn't really hit, because they set the character up poorly, and Matthew Goode was probably miscast. And when Doc realizes humanity's worth saving on Mars...it doesn't hit, because Malin did such a weak job.
And then on top of that, it felt wrong that a movie tried to take such a serious approach to how the world would react to a real superperson and the ripples it'd cause through history, but then they have this cartoony 300/Blade style of fighting. Winter Soldier's fighting was more grounded. I mean, it looked cool, but it undermined the kinda story they're trying to tell. They have these huge, realistic themes and consequences, but then suddenly this 100lb chick is on her Alice from RE, and suddenly they've taken death off the table. Such a life and death story, and you're saying these normal people are practically superheroes anyways.
And to really nitpick...just on a scene for scene level. A lot of times it felt like they'd start somewhere interesting and then just walk around in circles in scenes. The whole narrative was stagnant and sorta went through the paces. It was like they were putting on a play. When you trip on Ozymandias (the murder mystery for Rorschach and Comedian) and the Laurie (emotional glue for Doc Manhattan and Nite Owl), what are you left with? Some interesting, ambitious ideas, dialogue and characters, and some loose scenes that look really cool and sometimes work.
I like that there's nothing like it. And it is trying to be so much more than 95% of comic book movies. And I love the idea of Doc Manhattan that they made real. And Rorshach went hard. And Patrick Wilson went up in my book cuz of this. It's just...it's not really a movie. It doesn't move. Look at V for Vendetta. Just as ambitious and thoughtful as this one, but that movie moved, and it wasn't perfect, but it worked.
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Cliffs: Malin Akerman and Matthew Goode weren't good in this movie, and it sucks, because they were the 2 most important characters. A lof of things worked, but since they didn't the movie didn't imo.
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I remember it. Just seeing who else was a Smallville geek 
It was real. 
