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I'd love to see some Jinn, Kenobi, and Windu adventures/movie.
I like it. I suggest that all of us regulars in here who are Star Wars fans co-write a screen play and try to sell it to Disney. Let's do this.
C CP1708 - you start us off with an outline or maybe some bullet points for brainstorming purposes.
Qwi-Gon you simply cast in the younger age of his life, and have him work/train under Count Dooku. You plant the seeds of Dooku’s dealings within the Jedi, and why he eventually becomes weary of the Jedi ways. Maybe you tie in Plageius as the “villain” but also the subterfuge for whispering in the ear of Dooku. Not as malicious or powerful as Palpatine and Anakin, but same sort of premise. Still, you stick to toeing the line, you don’t full on heel turn Dooku, as even Obi Wan wasn’t sure he was completely gone by the time the Clone Wars began. You just type it up as Count is a bit of a wanderer/searcher for truth, and if the Jedi way is really the “right” way. (largely what Star Wars has always been based on) You can have Plageius be the mastermind behind everything but not have him actually duel or fight either “hero.” He could send a team of assassins after the Jedi and have them be the actual threat during the movie.
The sequel may be where you introduce Qwi-Gon to Obi Wan, and begin that partnership, with Yoda having a new(er) role. No Sith to deal with in this one, as they don’t even know Sith are still alive. (Plageius bein in the shadows in the first one is really only for Dooku to see, and he won’t even know he’s a Sith, just another rich man pulling strings of politicians is how the character is drawn up, Dooku wouldn’t even know he was being manipulated.) For that matter, he could also meet Qwi-Gon in this film, if needed, but would need a new/fresh character to be created as the “villain” of the film. Would be well before Palpatine (tho he can be referenced bein a politician) and long before Anakin is even born, or Clone Wars, or any of that. No Viceroy’s, no Droid Army’s, maybe get into some spy/smuggler stuff, bounty hunters and what not. Could possibly give them a chance to re-introduce Jango, under another name maybe ( ) Maybe with earlier drafts of his Mandolorian armor? Perhaps go with the all-white version Boba was originally set to wear?
michael b jordan is cool but he isn't enough to hold his own franchise.
creed could go on to become his own iconic franchise but no one will ever come close to the heart and grit of the original rocky
well one was a middle aged man living in poverty who used boxing as a way to survivemichael b jordan is cool but he isn't enough to hold his own franchise.
creed could go on to become his own iconic franchise but no one will ever come close to the heart and grit of the original rocky
rocky had some of the best scenes in creed. rocky is just way more compelling
I would disagree. He's not the massive underdog that Rocky was... but Rocky was almost too much of an underdog to be believable He's the ultimate underdog so that's why we all love him.
But for Donnie's life story, there's still a lot to root for. He had a troubled childhood, taken in by Mama Creed, didn't have to want for anything after that, but still felt like he didn't belong to that life. So while it was a wealthy and safe life, he's still a kid from the streets who didn't know his father. So he grows up never feeling that connection, living in a life that he doesn't feel he deserves, wanting to be a fighter but afraid of taking on the most famous name in boxing history.
So rather than keep in his safe and comfortable life, he leaves it behind (keeps the iPad though because come on), and goes to train in Philly. Then he puts in the work. Trains hard, does what Rocky tells him, supports Rocky when he gets sick, and then embraces his identity.
You root for him because you might feel the struggle of rejecting the comfortable life and going after something more challenging. Something that people tell you that you can't or shouldn't do. The entire 1st act of the movie is people telling him he shouldn't do it... but he keeps going. Take out the personality and it's a story of someone fighting for what they want, against a lot of opposition and doubt, struggling with your own identity and history, and so on.
Basically.. he's still got a rootable story.. you just have to do a little more work to get there.
i just cant agree with this when it comes to boxing
I would disagree. He's not the massive underdog that Rocky was... but Rocky was almost too much of an underdog to be believableHe's the ultimate underdog so that's why we all love him.
But for Donnie's life story, there's still a lot to root for. He had a troubled childhood, taken in by Mama Creed, didn't have to want for anything after that, but still felt like he didn't belong to that life. So while it was a wealthy and safe life, he's still a kid from the streets who didn't know his father. So he grows up never feeling that connection, living in a life that he doesn't feel he deserves, wanting to be a fighter but afraid of taking on the most famous name in boxing history.
So rather than keep in his safe and comfortable life, he leaves it behind (keeps the iPad though because come on), and goes to train in Philly. Then he puts in the work. Trains hard, does what Rocky tells him, supports Rocky when he gets sick, and then embraces his identity.
You root for him because you might feel the struggle of rejecting the comfortable life and going after something more challenging. Something that people tell you that you can't or shouldn't do. The entire 1st act of the movie is people telling him he shouldn't do it... but he keeps going. Take out the personality and it's a story of someone fighting for what they want, against a lot of opposition and doubt, struggling with your own identity and history, and so on.
Basically.. he's still got a rootable story.. you just have to do a little more work to get there.
im not saying they did anything wrong or should have done anything differently, the way they worked the story was perfect and the creed's son angle was a super creative way to "reboot"@sea manup, it sounds like you main contention with Adonis is that he chooses this life when he doesn't need to and that he comes from money. So the whole underdog story and rooting for him isn't as good or worthy of rooting for. I can get it but I think it'd be repititive if they gave us just another ultimate underdog story or tried to make his story worse than Rocky's.
How much difference would it make to you storytelling wise if after Apollo's death over time his family lost all their money? and Adonis was legit broke as ****? I suggest this change now seeing the movie Creed yet but I think you get what I'm saying as far as changing the backstory for his journey to trying to prove himself worthy of his father's name.
Great post.
I would disagree. He's not the massive underdog that Rocky was... but Rocky was almost too much of an underdog to be believableHe's the ultimate underdog so that's why we all love him.
But for Donnie's life story, there's still a lot to root for. He had a troubled childhood, taken in by Mama Creed, didn't have to want for anything after that, but still felt like he didn't belong to that life. So while it was a wealthy and safe life, he's still a kid from the streets who didn't know his father. So he grows up never feeling that connection, living in a life that he doesn't feel he deserves, wanting to be a fighter but afraid of taking on the most famous name in boxing history.
So rather than keep in his safe and comfortable life, he leaves it behind (keeps the iPad though because come on), and goes to train in Philly. Then he puts in the work. Trains hard, does what Rocky tells him, supports Rocky when he gets sick, and then embraces his identity.
You root for him because you might feel the struggle of rejecting the comfortable life and going after something more challenging. Something that people tell you that you can't or shouldn't do. The entire 1st act of the movie is people telling him he shouldn't do it... but he keeps going. Take out the personality and it's a story of someone fighting for what they want, against a lot of opposition and doubt, struggling with your own identity and history, and so on.
Basically.. he's still got a rootable story.. you just have to do a little more work to get there.