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Fair. Mel is a **** person so I don't blame you and I'm kinda in the same boat. Won't watch Passion ever.
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Fair. Mel is a **** person so I don't blame you and I'm kinda in the same boat. Won't watch Passion ever.
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I remember liking The Patriot when I was a kid. I haven’t seen it since it came out though. Mel & Heath in it
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I’m sorry but Ransom and Edge of Darkness HIT!!!!
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SaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAMEEEE!!
PotC was such a money grab.
I mean it worked, but yeah. Boooooo. -foe
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C CP1708 , look, bro, I've now finished 5 of what? 9? 10? 73?
Dude this isn't a good franchise. I feel like you reading that is similar to when crackheads are crying in the arms of a family member who is telling them 'You've gotta let it go!' or a teenager going through a disappointing heartbreak while their parent tells them 'You're too young to be this tore up!' But they continue to hold on, because of desperation and familiarity, not because of a quality need being met.
I feel like that's where you're at with this franchise.By your comments I've seen, it seems that you've been highly anticipating me coming through like "Oh yeah, these are absolutely amazing! I was so wrong! How did none of these films win an Oscar?!" That's not happening.
OK, let's dive in...
1st one: As my son put it and I totally agree, 'Grrrrr! Angry car guy race angry car guy! I'm mad!'
2nd one: We get Paul Walker on his own. I don't know, decent ish, but very forgettable.
3rd one: We begin the movie with a 42-year-old playing a HS senior racing some fake redneck through a developing housing community, just CRASHING through homes like they're made of toothpicks.
#4: Letty dies and Dom is pissed.
And now we've got The Rock...
Ok, let's stop there. When THE ROCK is inserted into a franchise and the franchise THEN becomes a little more realistic, it wasn't at a good place to begin with. Have you seen San Andreas? Rampage? The newest Jumanji? Dude is COMPLETELY over the top. He's not a GOOD actor; he's a BIG actor, literally and figuratively. It's got to be just a matter of time until him and Michael Bay link up for the ultimate blockbuster.
For me, the best acting in the whole thing so far is Gal Gadot, and she only had small parts in 4 and a more major role in 5. I don't know her role moving forward, but I know she's damn near carrying the 'extras' (everyone outside Dom, Brian, and Mia).
So let me go back to The Rock, who steps out of an apparently custom made vehicle that is not only bullet proof but MISSILE PROOF, and what does he do when he steps out? Oh he just picks off I think I counted 7 consecutive guerillas on rooftops, people that have been committing murder for the boss man their whole adult lives, and he just steps out of his homemade missle-proof Hummer tank and pew, pew, pew. All gone. And he doesn't even take a bullet! It's AMAZING! Not one. And they all had automatic rifles with the shooting ability of our beloved Storm Troopers.
And then he JOINS Toretto in the next scene. Straight up, cut to the chase, the LEADING MAN for THEEEEEEEE tip-top government special ops 'manhunt' squad in the country... just... *poof*... teams up with him. The quarterback for one of the most elite, secret government teams in the country, and a fugitive. "I'm in." No pitch from Toretto. No working out the details of Toretto being a fugitive who was at the time wanted for the murders of some of Hobbs' boys back on the train at the beginning of this SUPER realistic movie. Nope, no dialogue other than 2 words: "I'm in."
Oh, and Toretto? What's he up to? When Hobbs said he was 'in', what is getting himself 'in'? Oh Toretto is with Brian pulling a BANK VAULT... from a POLICE STATION... with a couple DODGE CHARGERS.
And as they careen through downtown with the vault in tow... FROM A STEEL CABLE... just swinging through kiosks and fire hydrants and a WHOLE BANK like everything is everything, then what's next? OH LOOK, it's 2 of the 4 police cars they stole...
"... wait... back up, Ska. Stole? Police cars?"
Oh yeah. Super easy, too. Just snuck in there in the middle of the night, picked which ones they wanted like some game show contestants picking their final prize, and just casually raced them back to th...
"... Ska, raced them back? Don't you mean just drove them? Surely they weren't rac..."
... no, I said what I said. Racing. Stolen cop cars. They got some stolen pig wagons and they're playing "8 Seconds or Less" through a couple downtown stoplights.
Buuuuuuuut I should have expected this sort of surrealism from a movie that STARTED with 2 guys being catapulted off a cliff into the water down below... unscathed. No broken bones. No concussion. Nope, all good. Look, from a franchise that has already showed me that a car can LAUNCH OFF OF A PIER... onto a MOVING BOAT... and drifting down a mountainside is so easy you can talk to your new friend in the passenger side about your abusive boyfriend and your childhood, this is exactly what I should I expect.
And it's exactly what I do expect moving forward for 6 & 7, and I'll find 8 & 9 for cheap, and I'll watch 10 if there is one, and 11, and 54, whatever. But it's not because they're super good and I just can't get enough, my fellow Star Wars loving friend. It's because I had a feeling my 15-year-old son would like them and I like doing anything he likes. And I was right, he loves them (except 3, which he actually still enjoyed while I thought it was right behind Scott Pilgrim and Ace Ventura for GOAT comedy).
My son is eating these up... but he's 15.
And my point here isn't to try to dissuade you from liking F&F. Different strokes.
Now, you can think that I've only been watching these in order to trash them with the ability to say 'Oh, I've actually seen them. You can't say 'Don't knock it if you haven't seen it,' because now I have.' I wouldn't waste what has already been essentially 10 hours just to be able to say that. Or you could say that I didn't go in with it open mind but again, I wouldn't waste my time.
Thie is a superhero franchise where the superheros are cars and the plot lines are made up as they go. "Everything's made up and the points don't matter."
-foe
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How did none of these films win an Oscar?!" That's not happening.
most of what you said is fair BUT the above was never the point!!! these are just pure entertainment, shoot em up style movies. no one is looking for character development, subtle plot nuances, and tear jerking and heart felt moments. it's just for pure entertainment. and to your later point, different strokes for different folks. so i don't fault you for not loving it. i am glad you gave it a go though
does this mean that mentally i'm a teenager??? cause a lot of people might agree with that
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I'm good with that but then 2 things need to be understood:
1. Then let's stop selling them as must-see quality works of art. We don't talk about Transformers like that, and we shouldn't.
2. Let's not feel some type of way when people dog them.
-foe
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Uuummm...does this mean that mentally i'm a teenager??? cause a lot of people might agree with that
go Red Sox? -foe
C CP1708 , look, bro, I've now finished 5 of what? 9? 10? 73?
Dude this isn't a good franchise. I feel like you reading that is similar to when crackheads are crying in the arms of a family member who is telling them 'You've gotta let it go!' or a teenager going through a disappointing heartbreak while their parent tells them 'You're too young to be this tore up!' But they continue to hold on, because of desperation and familiarity, not because of a quality need being met.
By your comments I've seen, it seems that you've been highly anticipating me coming through like "Oh yeah, these are absolutely amazing! I was so wrong! How did none of these films win an Oscar?!" That's not happening.
OK, let's dive in...
1st one: As my son put it and I totally agree, 'Grrrrr! Angry car guy race angry car guy! I'm mad!'
2nd one: We get Paul Walker on his own. I don't know, decent ish, but very forgettable.
3: We begin the movie with a 42-year-old playing a HS senior racing some fake redneck through a developing housing community, just CRASHING through homes like they're made of toothpicks.
P4: Letty dies and Dom is pissed.
Now we've got The Rock...
Ok, let's stop there. When THE ROCK is inserted into a franchise and the franchise THEN becomes a little more realistic, it wasn't at a good place to begin with. Have you seen San Andreas? Rampage? The newest Jumanji? Dude is COMPLETELY over the top. He's not a GOOD actor; he's a BIG actor, literally and figuratively. It's got to be just a matter of time until him and Michael Bay link up for the ultimate blockbuster.
For me, the best acting in the whole thing so far is Gal Gadot, and she only had small parts in 4 and a more major role in 5. I don't know her role moving forward, but I know she's damn near carrying the 'extras' (everyone outside Dom, Brian, and Mia).
So let me go back to The Rock, who steps out of an apparently custom made vehicle that is not only bullet proof but MISSILE PROOF, and what does he do when he steps out? Oh he just picks off I think I counted 7 consecutive guerillas on rooftops, people that have been committing murder for the boss man their whole adult lives, and he just steps out of his homemade missle-proof Hummer tank and pew, pew, pew. All gone. And he doesn't even take a bullet! It's AMAZING! Not one. And they all had automatic rifles with the shooting ability of our beloved Storm Troopers.
And then he JOINS Toretto in the next scene. Straight up, cut to the chase, the LEADING MAN for THEEEEEEEE tip-top government special ops 'manhunt' squad in the country... just... *poof*... teams up with him. The quarterback for one of the most elite, secret government teams in the country, and a fugitive. "I'm in." No pitch from Toretto. No working out the details of Toretto being a fugitive who was at the time wanted for the murders of some of Hobbs' boys back on the train at the beginning of this SUPER realistic movie. Nope, no dialogue other than 2 words: "I'm in."
Oh, and Toretto? What's he up to? When Hobbs said he was 'in', what is getting himself 'in'? Oh Toretto is with Brian pulling a BANK VAULT... from a POLICE STATION... with a couple DODGE CHARGERS.
And as they careen through downtown with the vault in tow... FROM A STEEL CABLE... just swinging through kiosks and fire hydrants and a WHOLE BANK like everything is everything, then what's next? OH LOOK, it's 2 of the 4 police cars they stole...
"... wait... back up, Ska. Stole? Police cars?"
Oh yeah. Super easy, too. Just snuck in there in the middle of the night, picked which ones they wanted like some game show contestants picking their final prize, and just casually raced them back to th...
"... Ska, raced them back? Don't you mean just drove them? Surely they weren't rac..."
... no, I said what I said. Racing. Stolen cop cars. They got some stolen pig wagons and they're playing "8 Seconds or Less" through a couple downtown stoplights.
Buuuuuuuut I should have expected this sort of surrealism from a movie that STARTED with 2 guys being catapulted off a cliff into the water down below... unscathed. No broken bones. No concussion. Nope, all good. Look, from a franchise that has already showed me that a car can LAUNCH OFF OF A PIER... onto a MOVING BOAT... and drifting down a mountainside is so easy you can talk to your new friend in the passenger side about your abusive boyfriend and your childhood, this is exactly what I should I expect.
And it's exactly what I do expect moving forward for 6 & 7, and I'll find 8 & 9 for cheap, and I'll watch 10 if there is one, and 11, and 54, whatever. But it's not because they're super good and I just can't get enough, my fellow Star Wars loving friend. It's because I had a feeling my 15-year-old son would like them and I like doing anything he likes. And I was right, he loves them (except 3, which he actually still enjoyed while I thought it was right behind Scott Pilgrim and Ace Ventura for GOAT comedy).
My son is eating these up... but he's 15.
And my point here isn't to try to dissuade you from liking F&F. Different strokes.
Now, you can think that I've only been watching these in order to trash them with the ability to say 'Oh, I've actually seen them. You can't say 'Don't knock it if you haven't seen it,' because now I have.' I wouldn't waste what has already been essentially 10 hours just to be able to say that. Or you could say that I didn't go in with it open mind but again, I wouldn't waste my time.
Thie is a superhero franchise where the superheros are cars and the plot lines are made up as they go. "Everything's made up and the points don't matter."
-foe
You're doin great!
(Hopefully you stayed thru the credits after Fast Five)
Next up, the best installment of the franchise, Fast Six.
You're pretty spot on with your analysis, but you missed the mark on this detail.
Hobbs was hard headed. Guilty is guilty. The hot chick cop was tellin him from jump somethin was off. Dom/Brian wouldn't do all these things but kill federal agents etc. Hobbs ignored her. (Threw the file)
But then those same "bad" guys saved Hobbs. They could have just fled. They didn't, they saved him. He now gets it, they really didn't kill those agents.
I'm not sayin all is forgiven or any of that, but there is honor among enemies. He teamed up with them to kill the bigger bad guy.
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Y’all not bout to have me watching all these F&F movies to keep up with this thread.
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C CP1708 , look, bro, I've now finished 5 of what? 9? 10? 73?
Dude this isn't a good franchise. I feel like you reading that is similar to when crackheads are crying in the arms of a family member who is telling them 'You've gotta let it go!' or a teenager going through a disappointing heartbreak while their parent tells them 'You're too young to be this tore up!' But they continue to hold on, because of desperation and familiarity, not because of a quality need being met.
By your comments I've seen, it seems that you've been highly anticipating me coming through like "Oh yeah, these are absolutely amazing! I was so wrong! How did none of these films win an Oscar?!" That's not happening.
OK, let's dive in...
1st one: As my son put it and I totally agree, 'Grrrrr! Angry car guy race angry car guy! I'm mad!'
2nd one: We get Paul Walker on his own. I don't know, decent ish, but very forgettable.
3: We begin the movie with a 42-year-old playing a HS senior racing some fake redneck through a developing housing community, just CRASHING through homes like they're made of toothpicks.
P4: Letty dies and Dom is pissed.
Now we've got The Rock...
Ok, let's stop there. When THE ROCK is inserted into a franchise and the franchise THEN becomes a little more realistic, it wasn't at a good place to begin with. Have you seen San Andreas? Rampage? The newest Jumanji? Dude is COMPLETELY over the top. He's not a GOOD actor; he's a BIG actor, literally and figuratively. It's got to be just a matter of time until him and Michael Bay link up for the ultimate blockbuster.
For me, the best acting in the whole thing so far is Gal Gadot, and she only had small parts in 4 and a more major role in 5. I don't know her role moving forward, but I know she's damn near carrying the 'extras' (everyone outside Dom, Brian, and Mia).
So let me go back to The Rock, who steps out of an apparently custom made vehicle that is not only bullet proof but MISSILE PROOF, and what does he do when he steps out? Oh he just picks off I think I counted 7 consecutive guerillas on rooftops, people that have been committing murder for the boss man their whole adult lives, and he just steps out of his homemade missle-proof Hummer tank and pew, pew, pew. All gone. And he doesn't even take a bullet! It's AMAZING! Not one. And they all had automatic rifles with the shooting ability of our beloved Storm Troopers.
And then he JOINS Toretto in the next scene. Straight up, cut to the chase, the LEADING MAN for THEEEEEEEE tip-top government special ops 'manhunt' squad in the country... just... *poof*... teams up with him. The quarterback for one of the most elite, secret government teams in the country, and a fugitive. "I'm in." No pitch from Toretto. No working out the details of Toretto being a fugitive who was at the time wanted for the murders of some of Hobbs' boys back on the train at the beginning of this SUPER realistic movie. Nope, no dialogue other than 2 words: "I'm in."
Oh, and Toretto? What's he up to? When Hobbs said he was 'in', what is getting himself 'in'? Oh Toretto is with Brian pulling a BANK VAULT... from a POLICE STATION... with a couple DODGE CHARGERS.
And as they careen through downtown with the vault in tow... FROM A STEEL CABLE... just swinging through kiosks and fire hydrants and a WHOLE BANK like everything is everything, then what's next? OH LOOK, it's 2 of the 4 police cars they stole...
"... wait... back up, Ska. Stole? Police cars?"
Oh yeah. Super easy, too. Just snuck in there in the middle of the night, picked which ones they wanted like some game show contestants picking their final prize, and just casually raced them back to th...
"... Ska, raced them back? Don't you mean just drove them? Surely they weren't rac..."
... no, I said what I said. Racing. Stolen cop cars. They got some stolen pig wagons and they're playing "8 Seconds or Less" through a couple downtown stoplights.
Buuuuuuuut I should have expected this sort of surrealism from a movie that STARTED with 2 guys being catapulted off a cliff into the water down below... unscathed. No broken bones. No concussion. Nope, all good. Look, from a franchise that has already showed me that a car can LAUNCH OFF OF A PIER... onto a MOVING BOAT... and drifting down a mountainside is so easy you can talk to your new friend in the passenger side about your abusive boyfriend and your childhood, this is exactly what I should I expect.
And it's exactly what I do expect moving forward for 6 & 7, and I'll find 8 & 9 for cheap, and I'll watch 10 if there is one, and 11, and 54, whatever. But it's not because they're super good and I just can't get enough, my fellow Star Wars loving friend. It's because I had a feeling my 15-year-old son would like them and I like doing anything he likes. And I was right, he loves them (except 3, which he actually still enjoyed while I thought it was right behind Scott Pilgrim and Ace Ventura for GOAT comedy).
My son is eating these up... but he's 15.
And my point here isn't to try to dissuade you from liking F&F. Different strokes.
Now, you can think that I've only been watching these in order to trash them with the ability to say 'Oh, I've actually seen them. You can't say 'Don't knock it if you haven't seen it,' because now I have.' I wouldn't waste what has already been essentially 10 hours just to be able to say that. Or you could say that I didn't go in with it open mind but again, I wouldn't waste my time.
Thie is a superhero franchise where the superheros are cars and the plot lines are made up as they go. "Everything's made up and the points don't matter."
-foe
This sounds like such a waste of time.EXA-*******-CTLY!!!!!!!
I'd be just as baffled and passed if y'all put Transformers on a pedestal like FF.
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transformers is no where near as entertaining, got rid of megan troll thumb fox, and added markkk wahlberg....it's not even close
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The details aren't the same, just like literally any 2 things you mention is an apples to oranges comparison. Any 2 things. Try to find the similarity in the 2 things that are mentioned, this time the similarity being that they are 2 franchises that are just entertaining, suspended reality be damned.
-foe
There's a diff tho.
We aren't bagging on folks who don't like the films that have WATCHED THE ****IN FILMS.
You have now seen Five. You don't like them, ok, cool, not your cup of tea. You get to speak on it. You did five cover to covers.
Those that "watched a few scenes" outta order & **** but talk mess about the franchise can have a coke an'a smile.
Everything you typed is legit. Just like me sayin John Wick murdered 617 men with dome shots, in a weekend, and New York don't got a single cop workin the case. Zero media panic. Ain't eem on the news.
You know how many damn bullets 617 is to carry? How heavy that **** would be?
But folks LOVE them some John Wick now don't they?
Mission Impossibles are great. We just gon sneak on in......to the CI mutha****in A no prob. All good, I have 13 dudes faces in my bag I can wear and we all the exact same 5'7" height weight and build.......
Folks LOVE them some Mission Impossible.
Guess what? I love ALL of them. And have SEEN all of them. So I get to have an opinion. Those that watch some, but not all then run off at the mouth negatively, naw. We call that out. Period. Point blank.
Attack of the Clones and The Empire Strikes Back go together perfectly. Take a look. During the final scene of Attack of the Clones, we have Anakin and Padme looking out into the lake on Naboo with R2-D2 and C-3PO beside them. Similarly, in the final scene of The Empire Strikes Back we see Luke and Leia looking out into space with R2-D2 and C-3PO beside them.
