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dbl post, don't read into it.What's the Ruby .gif for?
Basically....when you watch it, it'll feel like one of the most profound, 'over your head, but still within reach' films you've seen.But yeah, Synecdoche is so daunting/taxing. If you're going to watch it, you have to commit to it. I have tried revisiting three of four times, and after maybe eight minutes, I give up taking it in and thinking about what I know is coming and put on Knocked Up or some !+%* to attempt to clear my head.
Why does it seem like the same people are getting major roles in hollywood? I understand its obvious but like..how cant actors from shows like Entourage, Wire, etc...why doesnt the main characters on major shows get major movie deals?
You know when people say 'that show sucks' or 'the acting is bad,' about a TV show. A lot of the time, they're not really hating...they're just using an unfair scale to compare it to. Movies.
The actors of Entourage are all about 5'1 and all they're really asked to do is be themselves and play it cool. None of them seemed to really have deep dramatic chops where you'd think...alright, he's ready for something greater. They were all good, and a little iconic in their straightforward, "me with a twist" roles. It's just...this was probably their role of a lifetime and they'd have to get that lucky again for you to really see them again.
Think of it like this...had it not been for Entourage, would any of them have made it like they did?
Would you even know their names? Would they have been at all memorable if they showed up in other things first? Cuz it's not like they were new.
Money, hype, looks, talent. In some combination, that's it for all of them. The camera is harsh as ****. Big name movie people are a lot better looking than even you think they are. So if you don't have grab the room's attention looks, people have your looks burnt into their brains as being this one character, you can only get hype for playing that character, your voice, look and mannerisms are so particular that you always seem like that character, and you're not talented, lucky or watchable enough to breakthrough as another character...good luck getting a studio to throw real money at a project with you as the lead.
And yeah...people get typecasted. Sometimes when people have seen so much of you on the small screen, they don't want to pay to see you on the big screen in a less good role.
And those dudes did make enough money, that you could understand how they might lean back for a minute. I mean the show's only been gone a couple years.
But the one exception and standout was Piven. He could've made it to the next level (and he tried), but he tanked hard with The Goods.
That guy's been around since the 80s, and had strong Entourage hype, so that was basically his big shot at becoming a movie star.
You gotta be lucky and smart and get in with the right people. Lucky enough to capitalize on your hype, smart enough to do something good, and it woulda been nice if he knew Apatow and could've gotten into Superbad maybe, or Adam Sandler when he was a can't miss...or even a dramatic role. I mean The Goods was an Adam McKay & friends thing, so that's something. He could've made it like Vince Vaughan thing, but it sucked.
Plus, isn't Piven a notorious ******* in real life?
Actually, come to think of it...unless they really did just wanna lay low once the show was over, how bad of actors did these guys need to be, to have the mountain of connections a show like Entourage could give you, and to turn it into nothing.
With movies you gotta find unexpected things that blow up, or else you're trying to get the role over Bradley Cooper and Mark Wahlberg and all of them. And unlike you, they can guarantee more people than the ones who saw The Goods will show up for them. And they are better.
Film and TV is different. TV seems harder, cuz you only get a few takes a scene and you gotta crank out half a movie every week, whereas they get a month or more, a ton of preproduction, a big name director, the works. But film is more finessed than TV. I mean, there are exception like Breaking Bad (which is really just a long film), but with television, they scream everything at the audience. Everything's louder and bolder and blunter and more exaggerated and repetitive. And there's so much dialogue and plot that all they really need from most TV actors a lot of the time is your face, your voice and the exact same performance. Film, they need you to create something from scratch, make it watchable and worth paying to see and different.
I mean that's stardom. With TV...Adrian Grenier wasn't famous at all. Vincent Chase was. Ari Gold was famous. Johnny Bananas was who people liked.
A part of the allure of film is, you're in you're out, over in a couple hours. A character and performance can make you famous, but you're the star. Dwight Schrute was one of the biggest comedy stars of aughts. Rainn Wilson wasn't. Sheldon is one of the biggest comedy stars right now. Jim Parsons isn't. With movies, you can be a one-hit wonder, get buzz and be forgotten in a year. With tv, it doesn't seem like they're one-hit wonders, because there's a new episode every week and they're famous for years and years, but once it's over...You get lucky and smart like Jennifer Aniston, or you get like everybody else from Friends. I mean...who rose up outta The Sopranos?
The thing is, their characters are the stars. They're just the people we wish were their characters, so when they try to be someone else...good luck, hope you knew the right people and made a smart, timely decision. And when they try to do the same thing as on TV, all people will think is...ehhhh...doesn't look nearly as good as his/her tv character, and I can watch that for free. Or worse...to try not to get typecasted, they'll go their other way. If they're a villain on TV, they'll try to be the hero. If they funny, they'll try to be serious, and just put people who think they know them off from the go.
Taylor Kitsch was lucky and timely...but he wasn't good and he got in with the wrong people. He's not this bad, but he isn't a big charisma guy. He's a speak softly and brood guy. That guy can't be the lead in your summer action movie, especially if it's terrible like Battleship. So few people watched Friday Night Lights, that he didn't get typecasted as Riggins...but he got miscasted as hell.
Just scrolled up. ...I gotta stop doing this.
cliffs...Movie actors get famous. TV actors don't really get famous, their character does.
They gotta get lucky, smart, good and get in with the right people to jump up to movies.
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