Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

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But yeah, Synecdoche is so daunting/taxing. If you're going to watch it, you have to commit to it. I have tried revisiting three of four times, and after maybe eight minutes, I give up taking it in and thinking about what I know is coming and put on Knocked Up or some !+%* to attempt to clear my head.
Basically....when you watch it, it'll feel like one of the most profound, 'over your head, but still within reach' films you've seen.


Why does it seem like the same people are getting major roles in hollywood? I understand its obvious but like..how cant actors from shows like Entourage, Wire, etc...why doesnt the main characters on major shows get major movie deals?

You know when people say 'that show sucks' or 'the acting is bad,' about a TV show. A lot of the time, they're not really hating...they're just using an unfair scale to compare it to. Movies.

The actors of Entourage are all about 5'1 and all they're really asked to do is be themselves and play it cool. None of them seemed to really have deep dramatic chops where you'd think...alright, he's ready for something greater. They were all good, and a little iconic in their straightforward, "me with a twist" roles. It's just...this was probably their role of a lifetime and they'd have to get that lucky again for you to really see them again.

Think of it like this...had it not been for Entourage, would any of them have made it like they did?
Would you even know their names? Would they have been at all memorable if they showed up in other things first? Cuz it's not like they were new.

Money, hype, looks, talent. In some combination, that's it for all of them. The camera is harsh as ****. Big name movie people are a lot better looking than even you think they are. So if you don't have grab the room's attention looks, people have your looks burnt into their brains as being this one character, you can only get hype for playing that character, your voice, look and mannerisms are so particular that you always seem like that character, and you're not talented, lucky or watchable enough to breakthrough as another character...good luck getting a studio to throw real money at a project with you as the lead.

And yeah...people get typecasted. Sometimes when people have seen so much of you on the small screen, they don't want to pay to see you on the big screen in a less good role.

And those dudes did make enough money, that you could understand how they might lean back for a minute. I mean the show's only been gone a couple years.

But the one exception and standout was Piven. He could've made it to the next level (and he tried), but he tanked hard with The Goods.
That guy's been around since the 80s, and had strong Entourage hype, so that was basically his big shot at becoming a movie star.

You gotta be lucky and smart and get in with the right people. Lucky enough to capitalize on your hype, smart enough to do something good, and it woulda been nice if he knew Apatow and could've gotten into Superbad maybe, or Adam Sandler when he was a can't miss...or even a dramatic role. I mean The Goods was an Adam McKay & friends thing, so that's something. He could've made it like Vince Vaughan thing, but it sucked.

Plus, isn't Piven a notorious ******* in real life?

Actually, come to think of it...unless they really did just wanna lay low once the show was over, how bad of actors did these guys need to be, to have the mountain of connections a show like Entourage could give you, and to turn it into nothing.

With movies you gotta find unexpected things that blow up, or else you're trying to get the role over Bradley Cooper and Mark Wahlberg and all of them. And unlike you, they can guarantee more people than the ones who saw The Goods will show up for them. And they are better.

Film and TV is different. TV seems harder, cuz you only get a few takes a scene and you gotta crank out half a movie every week, whereas they get a month or more, a ton of preproduction, a big name director, the works. But film is more finessed than TV. I mean, there are exception like Breaking Bad (which is really just a long film), but with television, they scream everything at the audience. Everything's louder and bolder and blunter and more exaggerated and repetitive. And there's so much dialogue and plot that all they really need from most TV actors a lot of the time is your face, your voice and the exact same performance. Film, they need you to create something from scratch, make it watchable and worth paying to see and different.

I mean that's stardom. With TV...Adrian Grenier wasn't famous at all. Vincent Chase was. Ari Gold was famous. Johnny Bananas was who people liked.

A part of the allure of film is, you're in you're out, over in a couple hours. A character and performance can make you famous, but you're the star. Dwight Schrute was one of the biggest comedy stars of aughts. Rainn Wilson wasn't. Sheldon is one of the biggest comedy stars right now. Jim Parsons isn't. With movies, you can be a one-hit wonder, get buzz and be forgotten in a year. With tv, it doesn't seem like they're one-hit wonders, because there's a new episode every week and they're famous for years and years, but once it's over...You get lucky and smart like Jennifer Aniston, or you get like everybody else from Friends. I mean...who rose up outta The Sopranos?

The thing is, their characters are the stars. They're just the people we wish were their characters, so when they try to be someone else...good luck, hope you knew the right people and made a smart, timely decision. And when they try to do the same thing as on TV, all people will think is...ehhhh...doesn't look nearly as good as his/her tv character, and I can watch that for free. Or worse...to try not to get typecasted, they'll go their other way. If they're a villain on TV, they'll try to be the hero. If they funny, they'll try to be serious, and just put people who think they know them off from the go.

Taylor Kitsch was lucky and timely...but he wasn't good and he got in with the wrong people. He's not this bad, but he isn't a big charisma guy. He's a speak softly and brood guy. That guy can't be the lead in your summer action movie, especially if it's terrible like Battleship. So few people watched Friday Night Lights, that he didn't get typecasted as Riggins...but he got miscasted as hell.

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cliffs...Movie actors get famous. TV actors don't really get famous, their character does.
They gotta get lucky, smart, good and get in with the right people to jump up to movies.

Wow. Repped. Great post
 
Just wondering, finally watching Shame with Fassbender and it totally reminds me of a sex driven, way less action/violence Drive. And ofcourse Mulligan being in it helps haha

I liked his character though. Each scene was shot with such perfection and detail.
 
Anyone notice how close we got to getting half the cast of 'The Perfect Score' as the heroes in The Avengers? :lol

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Cap and Black WIdow. :lol Noticed this today. Why didn't Darius Miles get a call for Nick Fury?
 
Jimmy fallon must suck some good **** and supply all of hollywood with heroin and little boys. How in the world he went from breaking character and laugging at the screen in every SNL skit to supposedly hosting the tonight show is surreal

I just dint get it

He's the worst by FAR. And they screwed conan only to eventualy give it to this guy? NBC went down the crapper
 
Jimmy fallon must suck some good **** and supply all of hollywood with heroin and little boys. How in the world he went from breaking character and laugging at the screen in every SNL skit to supposedly hosting the tonight show is surreal

I just dint get it

He's the worst by FAR. And they screwed conan only to eventualy give it to this guy? NBC went down the crapper

Funny thing is I came in here to ask this in not so many words.

I don't watch late night TV but to my understanding he's horrible.
 
I watched Zero Dark 30 after buying it on Blue Ray. I like the movie, but didn't like the small inaccuracies (which is the same complaint I had with Argo). Also didn't like the scene where Chastain's Maya first meets Def Sec Panetta. When he asks who she is, she replies, "I'm the m*****f****r that found bin laden..." No senior analyst (senior or otherwise) in their right mind would ever address the Sec Of Def like that. Nadda, zilch. Also the SEAL team would not talk like that in the movie when they penetrated bin laden's compound. They would not talk at all. Short of that, it was a solid procedural movie.
 
Man Zero Dark Thirty sucked massive donkey ****. I could've and should've just watched the last 20 mins and I probably would've enjoyed it
 
New trailers for Danny Boyle's Trance & JJ Abram's Star Trek

Star Trek & Superman are the only tent pole movies I'm excited to see this spring/summer...
 
I thought Meth's voice would be different... :lol :p





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Watched We need to talk about Kevin last night. Went in not knowing anything about the movie and damb what a heavy movie especially before bed. Loved the way it was shot and the imagery was really good. Tilda Swinton and Erza Miller put in work.
 
Jimmy fallon must suck some good **** and supply all of hollywood with heroin and little boys. How in the world he went from breaking character and laugging at the screen in every SNL skit to supposedly hosting the tonight show is surreal

I just dint get it

He's the worst by FAR. And they screwed conan only to eventualy give it to this guy? NBC went down the crapper
He just was there at the right time. Giving him Conan's old show made some sense. He was close with Lorne Michaels and that way they kept it "in the family". He embraces social media in a natural way, knows the power of a viral video, and appeals to the younger ages. He's not my favorite but he's got his style. 

I'd rather they bring in a totally new host, but you'd have to get someone with enough experience as an entertainer and comedian. The Tonight Show was soiled after the Leno/Conan fiasco. NBC had no plan after that happened. They'd still need to replace Leno and rather than stick with a guy who has been with you for 16+ years and who you promised the show to... you just put off the decision a few years. 

Late Night is dead anyway. I thought Conan was the last chance to bridge the gap between the old and the new, but it's just a different landscape. They're going up against Stewart and Colbert who are giving you a nightly show but with relevance, where you might actually learn something. The internet means any interview people might want to see could just be watched the next day online. Any big sketch or bit? It'll be on Youtube and you can watch it later. 

It'll still be around. Fallon will do his new Tonight Show from NY, Letterman will eventually retire, Kimmel will be a solid option but ultimately too late to the game, Ferguson will do his awesome and weird thing, and Conan will get to be Conan. But the state of TV has changed and unfortunately, the late night show is no longer an important part of the landscape.
 
True i watch the daily show. Not that big a fan of colbert but i see why ppl like i

Nuthing ive seen in regards to "trance" looks very good but i always give him the benefit of the doubt. So i still wanna see it badly
 
Interesting quote from Ryan Gosling -

http://www.vulture.com/2013/03/ryan-gosling-needs-a-break.html

"I've been doing it too much," Ryan Gosling tells the AP about acting. "I've lost perspective on what I'm doing. I think it's good for me to take a break and reassess why I'm doing it and how I'm doing it. And I think this is probably a good way to learn about that. I need a break from myself as much as I imagine the audience does." Good thing he's directing the promisingly cast How to Catch a Monster shortly.


It looks like before he takes a sabbatical, he's going to direct a movie called How to Catch a Monster. So far this film is set to star Christina Hendricks & Eve Mendes (:smokin) along with Saoirse Ronan. The IMDb post says the movie is about, "A single mother is swept into a dark underworld, while her teenage son discovers a road that leads him to a secret underwater town."
 
I was never crazy about her, but all the Spring Breakers stuff and that last video sold me.
 
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was on that vitamin B during that interview. I'm thinkin that dress was off before the next guest came thru. :lol

Been a lot of proud moments for me lately. My daughter's birthday was last week and she for some reason has adopted a nickname for herself, MP1708. :hat Last year she had her mom put that on her birthday cake, this year, she requested a Laker birthday cake (*tears welling up*) and then recently she's been asking me about some different movies, and I told her I would watch a few with her if she wants to pick some out that she'd like to check out, and last night she made her first choice. The Fast and the Furious 1.

Maaaaaaaan, if this little girl isn't turning into Vern Troyer right before my very eyes. :lol :lol :lol

The Force is strong in this one. :hat


Anyways, it still plays man. The movie still works. Vin is skinny as hell, Lety was lookin all kinds of tore up, but it works great. They knew even back then what they were and what to go for. Only part that stuck out to me that was awkward was Ja Rule. :rollin Everyone in that franchise they've kept, and that dude got dismissed asap.
 
I think Simmons mentioned her and said something that made a lot of sense to me. Angelina is the best thing that happened to Aniston's career, cuz she got a decade straight of good tabloid press that kept her movie career strong, even though she makes mostly garbage movies. And like anyone else stays in the tabloids as much as her, would've had tons of **** thrown on them by now, but instead she got the permanent victim pass and free press for her movies.

I think he even said, she should never get married, cuz "poor, lonely Jenn" is a goldmine.
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exactly.. but that's her lane now.. all her movies are essentially the same (glorified lifetime movies).. and she plays 'jennifer aniston'.. or at least what people perceive her to be after what happened with that whole thing

essentially, what i'm saying is she is more identified for being the victim of that whole thing.. than she is from being rachel
 
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She seems dumb as a rock, but she can get the business.. don't eem care how old she is. :rolleyes

jk, officers.
 
I'm not with you guys on this Anniston stuff. I have liked or at worst tolerated damn near everything she's done. I can see her playing the same woman in all of them for the most part, I can see that (minus Derailed) but she's still put out several watchable movies, without taking off her clothes, and without being in any sort of hunt for Academy love. She found her niche and has stayed in it.
She's Julia Roberts lite, ok really lite cuz Julia can act when she wants too, but Julia also has 20 movies of just paycheck romcom funny quirky gal work.
 
:{ @ CP's kid requesting F&F. Son made another one for the next generation of movie lovers :lol

Agree with you about Aniston though. Never hated her work. She's not glaringly bad, just not exceptional. I haven't watched her in anything and thought damn she can't act or she was the worse thing about this movie.
 
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