Pacman in trouble! Gets into altercation

[lnmymind]

Originally Posted by DaJoka004

Goodell has already set the precedence. He doesn't care what the court of law says; he'll suspend you regardless. When Chris Henry had his latest charges dropped, I complained on here that it wasn't fair Goodell didn't take away the suspension. Nobody agreed with me. Now it looks like Pacman gets in trouble

That's the thing...he didn't get in trouble. No charges were filed at all. That's a little different don't you think?

 

[doublejs07]

So, if there's a zero-tolerence rule w. Pac to the point where he would get in trouble if he even WENT to a strip club (and caused no problems), how isthis going to be any different? I know he wasn't arrested, but this comes on the heels of JJ telling Pac that he needs to lay low. JJ just made thosecomments last week. It was to the point where Pac couldn't even go to Hooters. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out...because with Pac onas short of a leash with both Goodell & JJ, a suspension might be in the works.

 

[mustbetheshoe58]

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

So, if there's a zero-tolerence rule w. Pac to the point where he would get in trouble if he even WENT to a strip club (and caused no problems), how is this going to be any different? I know he wasn't arrested, but this comes on the heels of JJ telling Pac that he needs to lay low. JJ just made those comments last week. It was to the point where Pac couldn't even go to Hooters. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out...because with Pac on as short of a leash with both Goodell & JJ, a suspension might be in the works.

womp womp womp..he should've stayed out of trouble

 

[RyGuy45]

The bottom line is it's not even Week 6 and we are already dealing with this idiot getting into yet another "situation." Let's face it, ifthis one doesnt get him the next one will. It's only a matter of time and everyone knows that.

Dallas Deputy Chief Vince Golbeck told the Dallas Morning News police were called to the scene at 1:30 a.m. Wednesday.
Weird, it was at 1:30am.


And once again, ESPN has propped this man up like he is the most important figure in pro football. He's been their creation and their target for 2 yearsand the hounds are unleashed if he even breathes wrong. I hope he realizes that.

 

[dajoka004]

Originally Posted by lnMyMind

Originally Posted by DaJoka004

Goodell has already set the precedence. He doesn't care what the court of law says; he'll suspend you regardless. When Chris Henry had his latest charges dropped, I complained on here that it wasn't fair Goodell didn't take away the suspension. Nobody agreed with me. Now it looks like Pacman gets in trouble

That's the thing...he didn't get in trouble. No charges were filed at all. That's a little different don't you think?

What's the difference between no charges filed and charges being dropped? There isn't. Especially since in Chris Henry's case Idon't believe it was the alleged victim who dropped the chargers.

My point is that Goodell has overstepped his boundaries if you ask me. Things should be allowed to play out a little more. Now we never know what goes onbehind closed doors (Henry could have fessed up from the start), but when we are dealing with somebody's livelihood, more caution should be used.

But we are talking about Pacman, possibly the biggest idiot to grace the NFL in quite some time.

 

[N41D]

Ed Werder said Jerry Jones is FUMING...

Said Goodell had told PacMan just a few days ago that he hopes he now realizes how important making good decisions is...

Said one Cowboys player told him that when Pac goes out with them and he's around his teammates, he acts appropriately, but can get a little wild whenhe's drinking... Added that if PacMan is suspended or forced to miss any time, the team is "screwed"...

Newman out at least 6 weeks with a Sports hernia, and now Pac wants to go off and act an idiot...

Doubt Jerry will suspend him, considering the team's current situation at CB, but wouldn't be surprised if Goodell lays down the law because this willbe plastered all over ESPN on TV and radio, and they'll beat this horse to death like they do everything else.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Why doesn't this _ Pac just stop drinking?

Seems to be at the root of most of his issues....

 

[N41D]

Originally Posted by dreClark

Why doesn't this _ Pac just stop drinking?

Seems to be at the root of most of his issues....

Bingo... A dude who has severe mood swings and gets angry when he's been drinking... Sounds like an alcoholic to me...

 

[shannonscrooks]

Thank God ESPN dedicated the first 5 minutes of their 11PM broadcast discussing hypotheticals and potential punishment without having all of the facts, whileit gave a whole 10 seconds to the fact that the man who killed Derrant Williams has been indicted for the murders.

 

[seymore cake]

If he gets suspended for this ++*@ the league is officially charmin!!!

 

[d money87]

doesnt seem like abig deal to me everyone gets in fights.

 

[winstondon]

this shouldnt have even made the news....media ruining peoples lives FTL

 

[N41D]

Money87 wrote:

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doesnt seem like abig deal to me everyone gets in fights.
[mike gundy] THAT AINT TRUE! [/mike gundy]

 

[lazyj10]

Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

Originally Posted by dreClark

Why doesn't this _ Pac just stop drinking?

Seems to be at the root of most of his issues....

Bingo... A dude who has severe mood swings and gets angry when he's been drinking... Sounds like an alcoholic to me...

uh, mood swings and or anger while drinking =/= alcoholics

 

[doublejs07]

Publicly, the Dallas Cowboys have said nothing about the report that cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones got into a fight at a local hotel.

But according to ESPN's Ed Werder, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is privately "furious" that Pacman has gotten into trouble again.

"Jerry Jones is furious about this," Werder said today on ESPN Radio. "There were reports last week that he's been ordering Pacman Jones to conduct himself in a proper manner. Jerry Jones went through considerable expense to have a four-man security detail attached to Pacman Jones. They rotated in on a schedule. He was not allowed to drive to the facility or anywhere else by himself. He had a driver so that if there was even a traffic offense and they were pulled over it wouldn't be Pacman Jones himself who would be accountable to law enforcement authorities that could lead to a more serious situation."

Of course, you could ask why on earth Jerry ever brought in a player who would need that kind of round-the-clock babysitting.

"Jerry admitted that he was knowingly risking the integrity of his team with Adam Jones," Werder continued. "He said he had a face-to-face conversation with him before they made the trade in which he made sure that Adam Jones knew he had lost the benefit of the doubt."

If Pacman has lost the benefit of the doubt, doesn't that mean we have to assume that the report that Pacman attacked his bodyguard is true? And if it's true, doesn't that mean Pacman has to be suspended again? It's hard to see how this ends well.


http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/10/09/jerry-jones-described-as-furious-that-pacman-jones-cant-stay/http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2...t-pacman-jones-cant-stay/

The way it should be handled:

Jerry Jones steps up this morning, announces at Valley Ranch that he has ordered Pac-Rat to pack up, be gone immediately, never to return.

And if Jerry goes gutless and lets it ride?

Then Jerry is living a lie, because as the full escapades of Call-Me-Adam Jones began to surface Wednesday night, first on a KTVT/Ch. 11 report, it became obvious Pacman repeatedly has made a fool of the only man in the NFL who wanted to help him. That's you, Jerry.

Pac-Rat can't help himself. He ran the streets nightly as those who are on the streets have been seeing for months. Pacman has repeatedly defied Jerry's orders, even last week after our man Clarence Hill reported that Mr. Jones had strongly warned Pacman about his "visibility."

Yet, the Pacster changed nothing in his lifestyle. He continued to go out for nightlife fun, and Jerry's bodyguards continued to tag along. Pac-Rat, it seems, was ordering around security, instead of vice versa.

The poop finally hit the marble floors of a downtown Dallas hotel Tuesday night, when Pacman fought with one of his own security guards while attending a film preview party for a rapper.

Reportedly, it was a violent struggle, with the DPD finally being called. What else is there to say? Jerry should show Pacman the exit before Roger Goodell, who in a twist of irony was at Valley Ranch on Wednesday, does what the commissioner must do. Suspend Pac-Rat again.

Goodell has the final say on this guy. No way he can let this incident slide, particularly once the whole truth surfaces, going beyond merely the Tuesday night fight. Pacman has made a fool out of Goodell, the same as he did Jerry.

Now, there's one hole card Jerry can deal, if he's spineless enough to call in that card.. No charges were filed. The security guard works for Jerry. He's not going to file. The hotel doesn't want the publicity, or the possible wrath of a team fandom, so even a plush joint becomes a no-tell motel in these cases.

But Jerry knows. Goodell, if he doesn't know, will soon get the entire story.

All of Nashville, including respected Titans coach Jeff Fisher, told us Pac-Rat was an idiot. All of Nashville was right.

And for those told-you-so barbs now being aimed my way, OK, I'm guilty of agreeing with the base premise of bringing in Pacman. Yes, the conditions were right - the price to trade for him was low, and the price of keeping him, salary-wise, was also low. Plus, Jerry couldn't protect him in case of street problems, because this would be Goodell's call.

But the warning from others was this:

If the Cowboys were depending on Pacman to make the secondary better, and if he became a productive player, then a huge void would suddenly hit the team if Jones was removed from the roster during the season.

Bingo. The secondary is now struggling due to an injured Terence Newman, the slow progress of No. 1 draft pick Mike Jenkins and the rather disappointing play of Anthony Henry. Against Cincinnati last week, Pac-Rat was the team's best cornerback, and appeared to be overcoming a slow start to his season.

This timing of a hotel fight couldn't be worse from a team standpoint. Can't say I wasn't repeatedly warned this exact scenario could unfold, and probably would due to the Pac-Rat being a very stupid person.

Jerry, for his part, attempted to baby-sit Pacster from the start, and the presence of bodyguards once the Cowboys returned to town from training camp was considered laughable in the beginning. Now we know they were Pac's shadow for a reason. Jerry never trusted this guy to do right, and was hoping a show of force would curtail Pacman. No such luck.

Again, a Tuesday night fight with a bodyguard, as we would learn Wednesday, was not an isolated incident where things got out of hand after a rare night on the town. It has been party-time every night for Pacster. And continuing with his well-documented history, sooner or later, trouble will find Pacman.

It's an interesting Thursday morning call for Jerry. Does he man up, and ship out a fool who played him for a fool, or does he run scared over the current state of the Cowboys' defense, particularly the secondary, and try to hide behind the "no charges were filed" alibi.

Either way, what does Goodell think of being pimp-slapped by a player the commissioner gave a seventh chance when he reinstated Pacman this summer? Seven was not enough for this rodent.

Dump him, Jerry. It might hurt your team, but at least you won't have a problem this morning looking in the mirror.


http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/962459.htmlhttp://www.star-telegram..../sports/story/962459.html

 

[dam itz lou]

Why would you sign someone who you have to keep 4 bodyguards around at all times ?

 

[RyGuy45]

Jerry Jones went through considerable expense to have a four-man security detail attached to Pacman Jones. They rotated in on a schedule. He was not allowed to drive to the facility or anywhere else by himself. He had a driver so that if there was even a traffic offense and they were pulled over it wouldn't be Pacman Jones himself who would be accountable to law enforcement authorities that could lead to a more serious situation."

Continues to kill me. Grown !%$ man and this is where you are at inyour life.

 

[N41D]

Originally Posted by LazyJ10

Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

Originally Posted by dreClark

Why doesn't this _ Pac just stop drinking?

Seems to be at the root of most of his issues....

Bingo... A dude who has severe mood swings and gets angry when he's been drinking... Sounds like an alcoholic to me...

uh, mood swings and or anger while drinking =/= alcoholics

Maybe alcoholic was a poor choice of words, but anybody that goes through drastic mood swings or has extreme anger issues when he's beendrinking has severe problems with alcohol...

 

[high class scum bag]

The bodyguard, an off-duty policeman who is part of a security detail assigned to Jones, told team security that some "kidding around"and "playfulness" between himself and the player resulted in a brief scuffle in a restroom.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3634226http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3634226

 

[flintgrey]

It was only a matter of time.....

 

[vctry20]

Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

Ed Werder said Jerry Jones is FUMING...

ESPN said that Jones is "content the situation has been overblown"

 

[lilstarz07]

i am hearing more and more reports that this is a bogus story, classic ESPN bs

 

[eight2one]

he fought his babysitter

 

[biggdizzle23]

Damn this guy hasn't learned yet huh? Doesn't sound like a big deal really, but thank BSPN for having full blown coverage on it.

 

[highrep87]

Originally Posted by bigtomgetsgwap

Well sucks for Dallas Fans....

Not really since he was just simply a luxury.. we still got Henry, Jenkins, Scandrick...and Newman in some weeks.