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Pope got sone nads, I wouldn't **** with the mafia, Pope or not. They'd get reserved seats, extra communion, free wine
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Are you serious? My "quote" proved nothing? I literally give you a cited academic source that states that Stalin's state-sponsored atheism killed millions and you say I can't refute what you're arguing? Am I in Bizarro-world?
Your quote proved nothing...as we have stated, Stalin did not let his atheist beliefs act as a motive to kill others.
And your pic is cute, but obviously you're frustrated that you can't refute what we're arguing.
Did you not read what I posted? I guess you missed the part where Christians were persecuted and murdered as a direct result of Soviet state-sponsored atheism. They were killed because religion was not allowed in the Soviet Union, not because they were dissenters, homosexuals, whatever.None of it was based on his atheism.
Yeah, no. Not just political reasons. Stalin literally once criticized the Communist Party at a congress meeting for not doing enough to repress religion and disseminate atheism.
He also killed many atheists, does it mean he didn't like atheists. His fundamental ideology was based on socialist fascism. He killed for political reasons.
Are you serious? My "quote" proved nothing? I literally give you a cited academic source that states that Stalin's state-sponsored atheism killed millions and you say I can't refute what you're arguing? Am I in Bizarro-world?
Did you not read what I posted? I guess you missed the part where Christians were persecuted and murdered as a direct result of Soviet state-sponsored atheism. They were killed because religion was not allowed in the Soviet Union, not because they were dissenters, homosexuals, whatever.
But no it wasn't because of atheism. He killed plenty of atheists so that totally invalidates his religious persecution, right?
Basically what you're telling me is that "Stalin killed other people for other reasons so lel your argument is invalid".
lol
Do you think this pope's more "liberal" stance on certain topics is all part of the plan?
LOLOK.
One example compared to many of the atrocities committed by other religions:
Albigensian Crusade, 1208-49
Algeria, 1992-
Baha'is, 1848-54
Bosnia, 1992-95
Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1901
Christian Romans, 30-313 CE
Croatia, 1991-92
English Civil War, 1642-46
Holocaust, 1938-45
Huguenot Wars, 1562-1598
India, 1992-2002
India: Suttee & Thugs
Indo-Pakistani Partition, 1947
Iran, Islamic Republic, 1979-
Iraq, Shiites, 1991-92
Jews, 1348
Jonestown, 1978
Lebanon 1860 / 1975-92
Molucca Is., 1999-
Mongolia, 1937-39
Northern Ireland, 1974-98
Russian pogroms 1905-06 / 1917-22
St. Bartholemew Massacre, 1572
Shang China, ca. 1300-1050 BCE
Shimabara Revolt, Japan 1637-38
Sikh uprising, India, 1984-91
Spanish Inquisition, 1478-1834
Taiping Rebellion, 1850-64
Thirty Years War, 1618-48
Tudor England
Vietnam, 1800s
Witch Hunts, 1400-1800
Xhosa, 1857
Arab Outbreak, 7th Century CE
Arab-Israeli Wars, 1948-
Al Qaeda, 1993-
Crusades, 1095-1291
Dutch Revolt, 1566-1609
Nigeria, 1990s, 2000s
Hitler wasn't atheist. And Stalin did not use his atheist views to suppress others.
Religion in general has spewed bigotry, which has led to violence countless times. The Crusades, 9/11, the whole conflict over Israel, etc etc. Repeated behavior among centuries exhibited by religious people. And don't get me started on the racism/prejudice of minorities, gays, etc.
People are like this new pope is so personable and nice.
That list, smh. Might as well add, every slavery known to man to it.
Nah broski. All religious folk are mindless sheeple who support genocideIt's never ok to generalized based on a few people...unless its religion. It's ok to say Catholics are all idiots and somehow evil because of the church, but I dare not say white people are all idiots and somehow evil because of the US...every European...Gov. Or that all black people are thugs because of worldstAr...
When will people learn, religion is so much more than the church, it's individual, it can be evil it can do be good, it's like everything else. We always talk about the bad, but religion has done good in the world...started a pretty damn good country, great buildings, then the thousands in cities who help people because of their religion...yea they didn't need religion to do it but they did it because of religion, no ignoring that.
Dudes have more love for the Jesuits than the scriptures
Or you sound ignorant as hell
It is perfectly acceptable to generalize all catholics.
Nah broski. All religious folk are mindless sheeple who support genocide
Get with the times, son
/sarcasm
It's never ok to generalized based on a few people...unless its religion. It's ok to say Catholics are all idiots and somehow evil because of the church, but I dare not say white people are all idiots and somehow evil because of the US...every European...Gov. Or that all black people are thugs because of worldstAr...
When will people learn, religion is so much more than the church, it's individual, it can be evil it can do be good, it's like everything else. We always talk about the bad, but religion has done good in the world...started a pretty damn good country, great buildings, then the thousands in cities who help people because of their religion...yea they didn't need religion to do it but they did it because of religion, no ignoring that.
All people who supported the gov during slavery and Jim Crow are also guilty, every tax paying citizen who didn't protest...lets round up all old white folk.
Nah...Christians can def name the first book of the bible, idk what Christians you know. And there are Gay churches, and there are a lot of religious scientists, in fact the Catholic Church runs one of the biggest science research centers in the world...but, you read a few articles, saw some YouTube clips and decided you know everything about religion.
Hey, generalize if you want, everyone does, im the furdt to get on stage and tell a blantenly religious joke, but, just know your leaving a lot of good people out in the cold.
I'm equally as scared of white folk in power, they've done more to harm the planet.
Catholic Church is still the most horrible and corrupt organization on Earth. They have killed more people than the mafia ever will.
Wrong. The Catholic Church hasn't killed people since like 17-1800s and they've apologized for the murders like a million times
I dunno man the inquisition and the crusades were pretty messed up.
I'm an agnostic, but I like this guy better than Pope Benedict. At least it seems like he is expressing how to be a good person before becoming a good Catholic. I can respect that.
genoceid broThat's the issue, you look at religion as an institution whereas I see it as a group of individuals, just like with anything else, when certain people get power they do harm, others do good. I've been in the church as long as I remember and I've never felt 'deceived' maybe it was because of how my mom raised me, but I was always hip to what was going on and decided to like religion for different reasons.
Idk, I'm just different, can't be lied to when you know the truth, I prefer the heart of religion, that little old lady that walks to the soup kitchen everyday because 'its the Christian thing to do' or the gay dude who felt lost but went to the right church on the right day and found a home...that's religion to me, the mother of four who had no family, no help but goes to church and finds a friend...some food...a job...that's what piss me off about atheists, they give you a million reasons to be wrong and say 'your ignoring x' all the while they don't have the answer (still can't tell us why we are here) and the ignore y and z.
If the popes trying to do good, let him cook, stop vilifying the people.
That's the issue, you look at religion as an institution whereas I see it as a group of individuals, just like with anything else, when certain people get power they do harm, others do good. I've been in the church as long as I remember and I've never felt 'deceived' maybe it was because of how my mom raised me, but I was always hip to what was going on and decided to like religion for different reasons.
Idk, I'm just different, can't be lied to when you know the truth, I prefer the heart of religion, that little old lady that walks to the soup kitchen everyday because 'its the Christian thing to do' or the gay dude who felt lost but went to the right church on the right day and found a home...that's religion to me, the mother of four who had no family, no help but goes to church and finds a friend...some food...a job...that's what piss me off about atheists, they give you a million reasons to be wrong and say 'your ignoring x' all the while they don't have the answer (still can't tell us why we are here) and the ignore y and z.
If the popes trying to do good, let him cook, stop vilifying the people.