\\ Post Your Car vol. Been a minute //

[Nawzlew]

yo this new camry looks REAL good.

 

[yung flip image]

This should do for now...

Damn, I need a drop and spacers.

 

[loskickking23]

Before the car show a couple of weeks ago

 

[tommyicerocking]

i got an interview with Chrysler dealership next week as a apprentice mechanic.

I hoping some of the NT car lover can drop some gems and tips on what  to expect from the interviewer. Feel free to pm if you don't want things posted on this threads.

Thanks in advance.

 

[yanky]

yung flip image Congrats on the //M! Yellow side reflectors gotta go though lol

My car is been in the shop since Monday getting repaired and I've been stuck with a sonata. :x Getting my car back tomorrow so I can't wait.

 

[yung flip image]

yung flip image Congrats on the //M! Yellow side reflectors gotta go though lol

My car is been in the shop since Monday getting repaired and I've been stuck with a sonata. :x Getting my car back tomorrow so I can't wait.

Gloss black M3 emblem and color matched reflectors on the way from iND

And man, @loskickking23 I gotta make that my next project find in a couple years. Love it!

 

[puglife]

This should do for now...




Damn, I need a drop and spacers.

thought you bought one i had seen listed locally. i think it was black though so i guess you ended up getting a different one. where in va did you get it from? congrats!

 

[waitwut]

Guessing everyone knows about this monster.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...e-more-than-640-hp-thanks-to-water-injection/

saw this earlier

taking a page out of bmw's book

 

[PRIME]

This should do for now...




Damn, I need a drop and spacers.

Lemme get the 335


I'll trade you the maxima

 

[Nawzlew]

Turbos are inherently efficient. Unless something changes with this Trump administration, turbo 4 bangers is the future. But y'all already knew that.

actually da downsizing trend is a wrap.

"Emissions tend to go up as engines get smaller," he said, referring to the way that small-capacity engines can perform worse in real world Driving Emissions Tests (RDE) due to be introduced in Europe in 2019 as part of the Worldwide Harmonized Light-duty Vehicles Testing Procedure (WLTP)

He says the disparity between current tests and real-world consumption and emissions is also wide in China where cars sit in traffic for much of their lives, but the new American tests, which have effectively added 40 per cent to the total emissions detected in tests, have closed the gap.

His opinion echoes a Reuters report last autumn which stated that new emissions tests had exposed flaws in downsized engines. In real life, the report stated, these turbocharged units have a tendency to overheat when their tiny turbos are called on to deliver real-world performance.

To combat this, the engine's software strategy will over-fuel the engine, which results in increased emissions of CO2, oxides of nitrogen as well as unburnt hydrocarbons, particulates and carbon monoxide.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/news/age-engine-downsizing-says-volkswagen/

hm, sounds like hes just saying that small engines wont get smaller, not that we're gonna see more huge engines.

 

[ninjahood]

Exclusive: Carmakers forced back to bigger engines in new emissions era


A Peugeot 308 R Hybrid engine is displayed at the Paris auto show, in Paris, France, October 14, 2016.
REUTERS/BENOIT TESSIER

An engine of a Golf VII car is pictured on a production line at the plant of German carmaker Volkswagen in Wolfsburg, Germany, May 20, 2016.
REUTERS/FABIAN BIMMER/FILE PHOTO

By Laurence Frost and Agnieszka Flak | PARIS
(Reuters) - Tougher European car emissions tests being introduced in the wake of the Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) scandal are about to bring surprising consequences: bigger engines.

Carmakers that have spent a decade shrinking engine capacities to meet emissions goals are now being forced into a costly U-turn, industry sources said, as more realistic on-the-road testing exposes deep flaws in their smallest motors.

Renault, General Motors and VW are preparing to enlarge or scrap some of their best-selling small car engines over the next three years, the people said. Other manufacturers are expected to follow, with both diesels and gasolines affected.

The reversal makes it even harder to meet carbon dioxide (CO2) targets and will challenge development budgets already stretched by a rush into electric cars and hybrids.

"The techniques we've used to reduce engine capacities will no longer allow us to meet emissions standards," said Alain Raposo, head of powertrain at the Renault-Nissan alliance.

"We're reaching the limits of downsizing," he said at the Paris auto show, which ends on Saturday. Renault, VW and GM's Opel all declined to comment on specific engine plans.

For years, carmakers kept pace with European Union CO2 goals by shrinking engine capacities, while adding turbo chargers to make up lost power. Three-cylinder motors below one liter have become common in cars up to VW Golf-sized compacts; some Fiat models run on twin-cylinders.

These mini-motors sailed through official lab tests conducted - until now - on rollers at unrealistically moderate temperatures and speeds. Carmakers, regulators and green groups knew that real-world CO2 and nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions were much higher, but the discrepancy remained unresolved.

All that is about to change. Starting next year, new models will be subjected to realistic on-the-road testing for NOx, with all cars required to comply by 2019. Fuel consumption and CO2 will follow two years later under a new global test standard.

Independent testing in the wake of VW's exposure last year as a U.S. diesel emissions cheat has shed more light on the scale of the problem facing automakers.

Carmakers' smallest European engines, when driven at higher loads than current tests allow, far exceed legal emissions levels. Heat from the souped-up turbos generates diesel NOx up to 15 times over the limit; gasoline equivalents lose fuel-efficiency and spew fine particles and carbon monoxide.

"They might be doing OK in the current European test cycle, but in the real world they are not performing," said Pavan Potluri, an analyst with influential forecaster IHS Automotive.

"So there's actually a bit of 'upsizing' going on, particularly in diesel."

IN RETREAT

Carmakers have kept understandably quiet about the scale of the problem or how they plan to address it. But industry sources shared details of a retreat already underway.

GM will not replace its current 1.2-litre diesel when the engines are updated on a new architecture arriving in 2019, people with knowledge of the matter said. The smallest engine in the range will be 25-30 percent bigger.

VW is replacing its 1.4 liter three-cylinder diesel with a four-cylinder 1.6 for cars like the Polo, they said, while Renault is planning a near-10 percent enlargement to its 1.6 liter R9M diesel, which had replaced a 1.9-litre model in 2011.

In real-driving conditions, the French carmaker's 0.9-litre gasoline H4Bt injects excess fuel to prevent overheating, resulting in high emissions of unburned hydrocarbons, fine particles and carbon monoxide.

Cleaning that up with exhaust technology would be too expensive, sources say, so the three-cylinder will be dropped for a larger successor developing more torque at lower regimes to stay cool.

The turnaround on size is a European phenomenon, coinciding with diesel's sharp decline in smaller cars. Larger engines prevalent in North America, China and emerging markets still have room to improve real emissions by shrinking.

INEVITABLE RECKONING

Fiat, Renault and Opel have the worst real NOx emissions among the newest "Euro 6" diesels, according to test data from several countries. They now "face the biggest burden" of compliance costs, brokerage Evercore ISI warned last month.

Such reckonings are the inevitable result of on-the-road testing, said Thomas Weber, head of research and development at Mercedes DAIGn_.DE, which has nothing below four cylinders.

"It becomes apparent that a small engine is not an advantage," Weber told Reuters. "That's why we didn't jump on the three-cylinder engine trend."

The tougher tests may kill diesel engines smaller than 1.5 liters and gasolines below about 1.2, analysts predict. That in turn increases the challenge of meeting CO2 goals, adding urgency to the scramble for electric cars and hybrids.

VW has been far more vocal about ambitious plans announced in June to sell 2-3 million electric cars annually by 2025 - about a quarter of its current vehicle production.

"You can't downsize beyond a certain point, so the focus is shifting to a combination of solutions," said Sudeep Kaippalli, a Frost & Sullivan analyst who predicts a hybrids surge.

In future, he said, "downsizing will mean you take a smaller engine and add an electric motor to it".

(Additional reporting by Gilles Guillaume, Edward Taylor and Paul Lienert; Editing by Pravin Char)

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN12E11K

 

[af1 1982]

There's definitely a point of diminishing returns in terms of engine size. I was just speaking moreso on the use of turbos for general power and efficiency over let's say a V6/V8. That's why a lot of major manufacturers are replacing their V6s with Turbo four bangers. Comparable power with much better efficiency. And more importantly, a power map that can bu tuned and tailored for complete maximum efficiency.

Electric motors might be a trend for the future but we will see how this Paris deal stuff shakes out. I personally don't see us withdrawing from the Paris deal having a large impact on much but Trump has made it clear that going green is not on his agenda.

 

[koebot]

Most turbo 4s that have replaced V6s aren't that much more efficient in real world driving if at all. Basically what the articles ninja posted were saying.

 

[avthegod]

just finished getting this stupid e class running. 

bought the POS like 2 years ago and never drove the car. 

now i have to tune it down till its reliable and slap some amg monoblocks on it to semi stunt for the summer. 

 do not buy a 2nd hand non running MB unless you have some knowledge on working with them, or know somone with star diagnostic tool. 

the game youll initiate isnt fun nor cheap, i was at about $1300 in just parts not including my own labor and this car wasnt moving unless i towed it around the yard. 

could have just bought another e class for what i know have into this car.

Before the car show a couple of weeks ago

beauty right there. 

i remember at one point you could find ones this clean for like 5k 

 (14+ years ago)

the time to hoard these is way over though either buying a clunker or dishing out the 10+ bands for a decent one. 

 

[yanky]

Honda killed the V6 for the 2018 accord and fitted it with a 1.5 and 2.0 turbo. Bold move

 

[Thierry Henry]

 

[Nawzlew]

Honda killed the V6 for the 2018 accord and fitted it with a 1.5 and 2.0 turbo. Bold move

They're dropping in the 2.0 turbo from the Type R with a different tune and less boost. . Mating it with a 6 MT in a coupe body would be very interesting.

 

[puglife]

just finished getting this stupid e class running. 
bought the POS like 2 years ago and never drove the car. 

now i have to tune it down till its reliable and slap some amg monoblocks on it to semi stunt for the summer. 

 do not buy a 2nd hand non running MB unless you have some knowledge on working with them, or know somone with star diagnostic tool. 
the game youll initiate isnt fun nor cheap, i was at about $1300 in just parts not including my own labor and this car wasnt moving unless i towed it around the yard. 

could have just bought another e class for what i know have into this car.

pics

 

[yanky]

Honda killed the V6 for the 2018 accord and fitted it with a 1.5 and 2.0 turbo. Bold move

They're dropping in the 2.0 turbo from the Type R with a different tune and less boost. . Mating it with a 6 MT in a coupe body would be very interesting.

That would be but I hope they don't kill off the MT since those are already rare to come by. I wonder if it'll put out similar numbers the V6 did or more/less.

 

[niketalker23]

My girl just got this and it's really nice.

Not our pics but it's identical, color and all.

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Whip needs a new radiator & a bunch of other work It's got high miles already, contemplating walking away but damn I don't want a car payment

That tundra a page back :x

 

[ninjahood]

Honda killed the V6 for the 2018 accord and fitted it with a 1.5 and 2.0 turbo. Bold move

meh, bet it comes back in a mid cycle refresh for da next new model.

 

[Nawzlew]

Honda killed the V6 for the 2018 accord and fitted it with a 1.5 and 2.0 turbo. Bold move

They're dropping in the 2.0 turbo from the Type R with a different tune and less boost. . Mating it with a 6 MT in a coupe body would be very interesting.

That would be but I hope they don't kill off the MT since those are already rare to come by. I wonder if it'll put out similar numbers the V6 did or more/less.

They will be keeping the MT, but no word on coupes.

 

[ninjahood]

i will add Ford did da same BS with da 4 banger only fusions, only to offer da v6 fusion sport AWD during da refresh.

 

[Nawzlew]