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Just starting to trend in a negative direction with certain groups being the subject of the jokes. We don't need that to derail from what is usually a pretty informed thread and light hearted jabs
QB THREAD - 2x quarterbacky award winner: Lamar Jackson
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[COLOR=#red]Kaep only threw 10 picks last year.
Tried to tell y'all.
THE SIGNATURE THOUGH ... real tears...[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#red]Not really a shocker that it's happening again...[/COLOR]
View media item 1651295the usual suspects...
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CP lunch break over? 
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i give it 4 weeks before you're back to throwing hissy fits on twitter about tanne
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CP lunch break over?
**** man, not more than 5 minutes later two of my friends drug me to lunch with them.
Gonna try and stealth pull the info, will post it asap.
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i give it 4 weeks before you're back to throwing hissy fits on twitter about tanne
4 weeks? That's stretching it, how about 2?Crossing fingers I'll be forced to change my sn
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i give it 4 weeks before you're back to throwing hissy fits on twitter about tanne
[COLOR=#red]That's being very generous. [/COLOR]
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Hold on did I come back to see 4 pages of Luck INT's too high arguments in just 1 day? S&T gon S&T.
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Here’s the list, and the last 3 years. (Luck’s first 3 in the league.)
I included Russ, and Tannehill, his peers from the same draft class, and then Smith, A-Rodg, and Brady.
Rodgers, CLEARLY, is the best at just about everything. He protects the ball, AND throws a ton of TD’s, yards, QB rating, etc.
Last 3 years
Attempts, INT’s, INT %
Alex Smith
218-5 2.3
508-7 1.4
464-6 1.3
2.4 career
Russ Wilson
393-10 2.5
407-9 2.2
452-7 1.5
2.1 career
Andrew Luck
627-18 2.9
570-9 1.6
616-16 2.6
2.4 career
Aaron Rodgers
552-8 1.4
290-6 2.1
520-5 1.0
1.6 career
Tom Brady
637-8 1.3
628-11 1.8
582-9 1.5
2.0 career
Ryan Tannehill
484-13 2.7
588-17 2.9
590-12 2.0
2.5 career
Luck throws more passes than anybody but Brady. Brady INT rate is 2.0 Luck is 2.4
Russ, “Mr. Safe” is at 2.1, in 561 fewer attempts. That’s an entire season worth of passes Russ hasn’t made yet.
None of this is made up folks. This is all directly from their career numbers, 2012, 2013, and 2014. (and then career INT rates overall)
So again, Luck does throw a couple more picks per season than the “safest” QB’s in the league. And with the exception of Rodgers/Peyton/Brees, none of them put the TD’s on the board that Luck does.
This isn’t Cutler throwin the ball up for grabs whenever, or Stafford tryin to force feed CJ, or Romo and one of his clutch 4th quarter jobs, this is a guy that throws 600+ passes a year, and gets a handful more INT’s than guys that throw 430 passes a year, or 550, or 500, etc.
It’s the same as premier PG’s in the NBA, the all-time turnover leaders in the NBA are guys like Magic, MJ, John Stockton, Nash, etc, guys that have the ball all the time, and turnovers will naturally come from that, vs guys who never have the ball, therefore don’t have any turnovers. Same thing applies to QB’s who throw the ball every down, vs guys that hand off 35+ times a game and “protect” the ball.
Knocking Luck for 16 INT’s in 16 games is the same as knocking Kate Upton for having a bushy eyebrow. It’s looking for things to pick at. Trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn’t really impact the overall package.
The defense rests.
I included Russ, and Tannehill, his peers from the same draft class, and then Smith, A-Rodg, and Brady.
Rodgers, CLEARLY, is the best at just about everything. He protects the ball, AND throws a ton of TD’s, yards, QB rating, etc.
Last 3 years
Attempts, INT’s, INT %
Alex Smith
218-5 2.3
508-7 1.4
464-6 1.3
2.4 career
Russ Wilson
393-10 2.5
407-9 2.2
452-7 1.5
2.1 career
Andrew Luck
627-18 2.9
570-9 1.6
616-16 2.6
2.4 career
Aaron Rodgers
552-8 1.4
290-6 2.1
520-5 1.0
1.6 career
Tom Brady
637-8 1.3
628-11 1.8
582-9 1.5
2.0 career
Ryan Tannehill
484-13 2.7
588-17 2.9
590-12 2.0
2.5 career
Luck throws more passes than anybody but Brady. Brady INT rate is 2.0 Luck is 2.4
Russ, “Mr. Safe” is at 2.1, in 561 fewer attempts. That’s an entire season worth of passes Russ hasn’t made yet.
None of this is made up folks. This is all directly from their career numbers, 2012, 2013, and 2014. (and then career INT rates overall)
So again, Luck does throw a couple more picks per season than the “safest” QB’s in the league. And with the exception of Rodgers/Peyton/Brees, none of them put the TD’s on the board that Luck does.
This isn’t Cutler throwin the ball up for grabs whenever, or Stafford tryin to force feed CJ, or Romo and one of his clutch 4th quarter jobs, this is a guy that throws 600+ passes a year, and gets a handful more INT’s than guys that throw 430 passes a year, or 550, or 500, etc.
It’s the same as premier PG’s in the NBA, the all-time turnover leaders in the NBA are guys like Magic, MJ, John Stockton, Nash, etc, guys that have the ball all the time, and turnovers will naturally come from that, vs guys who never have the ball, therefore don’t have any turnovers. Same thing applies to QB’s who throw the ball every down, vs guys that hand off 35+ times a game and “protect” the ball.
Knocking Luck for 16 INT’s in 16 games is the same as knocking Kate Upton for having a bushy eyebrow. It’s looking for things to pick at. Trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn’t really impact the overall package.
The defense rests.
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Everybody tell him he's right so this can end.
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[COLOR=#red]Or just take facts for what they are... either or...
1.6... that man is a beast.[/COLOR]
1.6... that man is a beast.[/COLOR]
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I know Seattle doesn't trust Russell's arm but he's thrown more than I thought he had.
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his NFC champ game performance...
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Turnovers matter though bro.
A couple more turnovers through out the season makes a difference between 11-5 and 13-3....
Home field advantage in the playoffs playing in a climate controlled dome in January throwing 375 and 4 touchdowns
Or going to Foxborough or Denver in January and going 12 for 33 for 126 yds, 0 touchdowns and 2 interceptions
We are the talking about being a big elite time quarterback...not some Tannehill/Dalton stuff
The Elite...and when you're in the elite class, you are going to take criticism for all your weaknesses
A couple more turnovers through out the season makes a difference between 11-5 and 13-3....
Home field advantage in the playoffs playing in a climate controlled dome in January throwing 375 and 4 touchdowns
Or going to Foxborough or Denver in January and going 12 for 33 for 126 yds, 0 touchdowns and 2 interceptions
We are the talking about being a big elite time quarterback...not some Tannehill/Dalton stuff
The Elite...and when you're in the elite class, you are going to take criticism for all your weaknesses
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I meant he's had more passing attempts than I thought, not INTs. Just clarifying before the Russell's cult attacks me.
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Wanna tell me the score of the game before Luck through his first interception in this game?
Hint: Patriots had a really large number and the Colts had a really small number.
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Wanna tell me the score of the game before Luck through his first interception in this game?
Hint: Patriots had a really large number and the Colts had a really small number.
just to play devil's advocate...what were luck's numbers up until that INT? interested in his completions to attempts.
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Random but do you guys consider Flacco top 10? I might just have him right at 10 or 9 . His playoff performances vastly make up for whatever regular season shortcomings he has. Dude plays like an accurate Brett Favre in January
. His playoff performances vastly make up for whatever regular season shortcomings he has. Dude plays like an accurate Brett Favre in January 
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Rather have flacco as my QB then Russell Wilson. Could see flacco as 9 or ten
