QB THREAD - 2x quarterbacky award winner: Lamar Jackson

Just starting to trend in a negative direction with certain groups being the subject of the jokes. We don't need that to derail from what is usually a pretty informed thread and light hearted jabs
 
Just starting to trend in a negative direction with certain groups being the subject of the jokes. We don't need that to derail from what is usually a pretty informed thread and light hearted jabs

:lol

[COLOR=#red]Not really a shocker that it's happening again...[/COLOR]

View media item 1651295the usual suspects...
 
Here’s the list, and the last 3 years. (Luck’s first 3 in the league.)

I included Russ, and Tannehill, his peers from the same draft class, and then Smith, A-Rodg, and Brady.

Rodgers, CLEARLY, is the best at just about everything. He protects the ball, AND throws a ton of TD’s, yards, QB rating, etc.

Last 3 years
Attempts, INT’s, INT %
Alex Smith
218-5 2.3
508-7 1.4
464-6 1.3
2.4 career

Russ Wilson
393-10 2.5
407-9 2.2
452-7 1.5
2.1 career

Andrew Luck
627-18 2.9
570-9 1.6
616-16 2.6
2.4 career

Aaron Rodgers
552-8 1.4
290-6 2.1
520-5 1.0
1.6 career

Tom Brady
637-8 1.3
628-11 1.8
582-9 1.5
2.0 career

Ryan Tannehill
484-13 2.7
588-17 2.9
590-12 2.0
2.5 career

Luck throws more passes than anybody but Brady. Brady INT rate is 2.0 Luck is 2.4

Russ, “Mr. Safe” is at 2.1, in 561 fewer attempts. That’s an entire season worth of passes Russ hasn’t made yet.

None of this is made up folks. This is all directly from their career numbers, 2012, 2013, and 2014. (and then career INT rates overall)

So again, Luck does throw a couple more picks per season than the “safest” QB’s in the league. And with the exception of Rodgers/Peyton/Brees, none of them put the TD’s on the board that Luck does.

This isn’t Cutler throwin the ball up for grabs whenever, or Stafford tryin to force feed CJ, or Romo and one of his clutch 4th quarter jobs, this is a guy that throws 600+ passes a year, and gets a handful more INT’s than guys that throw 430 passes a year, or 550, or 500, etc.

It’s the same as premier PG’s in the NBA, the all-time turnover leaders in the NBA are guys like Magic, MJ, John Stockton, Nash, etc, guys that have the ball all the time, and turnovers will naturally come from that, vs guys who never have the ball, therefore don’t have any turnovers. Same thing applies to QB’s who throw the ball every down, vs guys that hand off 35+ times a game and “protect” the ball.

Knocking Luck for 16 INT’s in 16 games is the same as knocking Kate Upton for having a bushy eyebrow. It’s looking for things to pick at. Trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn’t really impact the overall package.


The defense rests.
 
Here’s the list, and the last 3 years. (Luck’s first 3 in the league.)

I included Russ, and Tannehill, his peers from the same draft class, and then Smith, A-Rodg, and Brady.

Rodgers, CLEARLY, is the best at just about everything. He protects the ball, AND throws a ton of TD’s, yards, QB rating, etc.

Last 3 years
Attempts, INT’s, INT %
Alex Smith
218-5 2.3
508-7 1.4
464-6 1.3
2.4 career

Russ Wilson
393-10 2.5
407-9 2.2
452-7 1.5
2.1 career

Andrew Luck
627-18 2.9
570-9 1.6
616-16 2.6
2.4 career

Aaron Rodgers
552-8 1.4
290-6 2.1
520-5 1.0
1.6 career

Tom Brady
637-8 1.3
628-11 1.8
582-9 1.5
2.0 career

Ryan Tannehill
484-13 2.7
588-17 2.9
590-12 2.0
2.5 career

Luck throws more passes than anybody but Brady. Brady INT rate is 2.0 Luck is 2.4

Russ, “Mr. Safe” is at 2.1, in 561 fewer attempts. That’s an entire season worth of passes Russ hasn’t made yet.

None of this is made up folks. This is all directly from their career numbers, 2012, 2013, and 2014. (and then career INT rates overall)

So again, Luck does throw a couple more picks per season than the “safest” QB’s in the league. And with the exception of Rodgers/Peyton/Brees, none of them put the TD’s on the board that Luck does.

This isn’t Cutler throwin the ball up for grabs whenever, or Stafford tryin to force feed CJ, or Romo and one of his clutch 4th quarter jobs, this is a guy that throws 600+ passes a year, and gets a handful more INT’s than guys that throw 430 passes a year, or 550, or 500, etc.

It’s the same as premier PG’s in the NBA, the all-time turnover leaders in the NBA are guys like Magic, MJ, John Stockton, Nash, etc, guys that have the ball all the time, and turnovers will naturally come from that, vs guys who never have the ball, therefore don’t have any turnovers. Same thing applies to QB’s who throw the ball every down, vs guys that hand off 35+ times a game and “protect” the ball.

Knocking Luck for 16 INT’s in 16 games is the same as knocking Kate Upton for having a bushy eyebrow. It’s looking for things to pick at. Trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn’t really impact the overall package.


The defense rests.

:hat :hat :hat
 
[COLOR=#red]Or just take facts for what they are... either or...

1.6... that man is a beast.[/COLOR]
 
Turnovers matter though bro.

A couple more turnovers through out the season makes a difference between 11-5 and 13-3....

Home field advantage in the playoffs playing in a climate controlled dome in January throwing 375 and 4 touchdowns

Or going to Foxborough or Denver in January and going 12 for 33 for 126 yds, 0 touchdowns and 2 interceptions

We are the talking about being a big elite time quarterback...not some Tannehill/Dalton stuff

The Elite...and when you're in the elite class, you are going to take criticism for all your weaknesses
 
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Eh.

3-4 INT's over the course of 16 games vs 50-100 extra carries for Trent Richardson.

I'll take the extra 100 throws from Luck. That's fine if you prefer more handoffs. Difference of opinion, no biggie.
 
Or going to Foxborough or Denver in January and going 12 for 33 for 126 yds, 0 touchdowns and 2 interceptions

Wanna tell me the score of the game before Luck through his first interception in this game? :D

Hint: Patriots had a really large number and the Colts had a really small number.

just to play devil's advocate...what were luck's numbers up until that INT? interested in his completions to attempts.
 
Random but do you guys consider Flacco top 10? I might just have him right at 10 or 9 :lol. His playoff performances vastly make up for whatever regular season shortcomings he has. Dude plays like an accurate Brett Favre in January :lol :{
 
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