R.I.P Trayvon

[nothinafta]

Also... It's neighborhood WATCH... Not neighborhood spring into action. If he wasn't going to listen to the dispatcher why did he call 911... The entire point is for them to handle the situation. Simple questions:

What were his intentions in pursuing TM? What was he planning on doing when he caught up to him?
Why not let 911 handle the situation after they told him his assistance was no longer needed?

Added questions


Was he already arm in the car ? Or did he get out the car and attach the gun with intentions to kill?

 

[deuce king]

Someone casing outside of your house is one thing given your example, but following a kid that has done and is not doing anything wrong or illegal is something totally different which is what George Zimmerman did.  At the end of the day George Zimmerman felt uneasy about a black kid (who happened to be Trayvon Martin) being in his neighborhood and decided to follow him because Zimmerman was not going to accept a black person in his neighborhood. 

Just out out curiosity TangoNoob, if you had a tally of all the individuals that you and your father deemed "sketchy" in the neighborhood, would you say that the majority of the "sketchy" individuals were black??

We're black... 

Well I'm glad to hear that brotha........................if I can call you that, brotha. 

But I'm not denying that Zimmerman effed up big time and needlessly escalated the situation, but what I"m worried about is that if he gets found guilty, then what precedence does that set for self-defense laws in our country?

Well you said Zimmerman "effed up big time" by following Trayvon so wouldn't that mean precedence for Trayvon and self defense??

 

[shoelyesses]

Y'all surprised....no different than any other white Latino...they disassociate themselves from the "others"

Only on this world people embrace being a recessive gene...I prefer to be a dominant gene in the biological scope

but Latino...etc still end of the day are still Caucasoid. Latino etc...is a nationality not a race. I never understood why ppl say their race is based on the earliest place they can trace their family from.

And its funny every country is used as a term for race except America. China=Chinese as a race, Russia=Russian as a race, America= um lol

 

[change the name Snyder]

Closet racists kicking down the doors in here.

 

[nawghtyhare]

Did you hear that ladies and gentleman........even George Zimmerman see himself as white based upon the information he filled out for his medical records.

denying his own ancestry I ain't suprised


He a sucka

Y'all surprised....no different than any other white Latino...they disassociate themselves from the "others"



Only on this world people embrace being a recessive gene...I prefer to be a dominant gene in the biological scope

you're like an expert on white people and Hispanics that claim to be white, eh? Did you gather your research from the white women you sleep with?

you sound dumb.....well documented about shade separation in many latin countries...this **** aint anything new.yes, i also do enjoy ******g the white mans daughters

I do too but the Asian yambs are better than the white ones

 haven't had those yet

they are splash-tastic aint enough to describe it

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Son baited him and now he's mad at the answer he got.

 

[nobody]

Bernie De La Rionda is such an amateur. No way Zimmy gets convicted 

 

[the antihype]

-reads thread title-

When did Trayvon go on trial?

His judgment has been finalized.

 

[rexanglorum]

This stage of the trial is a reminded of why district attorneys like to use plea deals. If you are a prosecutor, you want to bring up very severe charges and use the threat of major prison time in order to intimidate defendants into avoiding trials and pleading guilty.

With the eyes of the world on him, the DA in this case did what DA's in this situation do, they swing for the fences and seek out a trial on the highest charges possible. They all want to run for higher office and they see it as their chance to put on a show for the voters.

In so doing, they expose themselves to a real trial, where the defense can tell its story. In theory, our criminal justice system is based on a back and forth between advocates for the state and advocates for the defendants. In practice, the courts are rigged and involve judges only hearing the police and prosecutor's side.

When prosecutors over reach and refuse plea deals and/or when defendants are brave and risk a real trial, it is amazing how often the defense is able to take apart the police-DA's hitherto one sided narrative.

 

[servechilled81]

Was all the testimony today just describing the fight?  

I only saw it this morning, but i'm watching the rundown on TV

seems like a lot of importance is being placed on Zimmerman being beaten up instead of whether or not he actually started it

which was the crux of Rachel Jeantel's testimony that was overshadowed by everything else the last 2 days

 

[mr marcus]

Congrats you were raped by Spanish settlers quite an accomplishment


You asked me about me liking white women in bed...now you're mad

 

[AIR J XIII]

I've been at work all week, is this continuing through the weekend?

 

[celticsfan9783]

Congrats you were raped by Spanish settlers quite an accomplishment

 

[mr marcus]

I mean he's taking pride in it..I don't take pride in my ancestors being slaves

But more power to him

 

[7thave btn 31stn33rd st]

The Defense clearly did not have a clinician on their team.

The Medic noted that Zimmerman scored a 15/15 on the Glasgow Coma Scale, she also stated that he complained of "Dizziness". The next day he was evaluated by the Physicians Asst., she noted distress, anxiety, slightly elevated blood pressure, and way elevated resting heart rate 109 bpm, and he also complained on sleep disturbances. Everything listed are signs and symptoms of a concussion including the dizziness. Are we sure he had one? No, he wasnt evaluated for one. The Physicians Asst also did not recommend one. The Defense could have followed up with that as a possibility to put in the minds of the jury.

The Glasgow Coma Scale is pretty valid, though it is mostly used on people with severe traumatic brain injuries and strokes.


One thing I dont understand that hasnt be really mentioned is Trayvon was found face down with a gun shot wound to the front part of his chest. If that is the case, Trayvon would had to of been on top, or else how would he landed face down with hands beneath him with a witness testifying claiming he was not touched? Also if you are on top, why would you be screaming for "help"? Also, the bullet went through Trayvon, ifTrayvon was on the bottom they would have found a ammo round, which was not found.


Gonna be an interesting next week.

 

[Betonblck]

The Defense clearly did not have a clinician on their team.

The Medic noted that Zimmerman scored a 15/15 on the Glasgow Coma Scale, she also stated that he complained of "Dizziness". The next day he was evaluated by the Physicians Asst., she noted distress, anxiety, slightly elevated blood pressure, and way elevated resting heart rate 109 bpm, and he also complained on sleep disturbances. Everything listed are signs and symptoms of a concussion including the dizziness. Are we sure he had one? No, he wasnt evaluated for one. The Physicians Asst also did not recommend one. The Defense could have followed up with that as a possibility to put in the minds of the jury.

The Glasgow Coma Scale is pretty valid, though it is mostly used on people with severe traumatic brain injuries and strokes.


One thing I dont understand that hasnt be really mentioned is Trayvon was found face down with a gun shot wound to the front part of his chest. If that is the case, Trayvon would had to of been on top, or else how would he landed face down with hands beneath him with a witness testifying claiming he was not touched? Also if you are on top, why would you be screaming for "help"? Also, the bullet went through Trayvon, ifTrayvon was on the bottom they would have found a ammo round, which was not found.


Gonna be an interesting next week.

Zimmerman moved the body. He said he spread Trayvon's arms out on the grass to see if he had any weapons.

 

[frostythepoptart]

There is a difference between a Cop and a 911 Dispatch and I'm pretty sure there is no legal reason to follow a Dispatch's commands.

If someone's casing or loitering outside of my house, then I'm definitely gonna go out and talk to them while carrying concealed.  If they won't keep it moving, then that's when I leave and call the cops.

It's different than Zimmerman's case, but what I'm saying is that his actions while probably unneeded aren't beyond the realm of being understandable.

you're a female with a gun and this was the same problem with zimmerman.

If you got a problem call the cops. You have no authority.

You feel tough enough to step up to someone with a gun in your pocket but you can't talk to someone man to man without a gun in your waistband.

Eff outta here.

Guns turn chumps into tough guys. You can walk away from an *** whoopin. Live another day.

If you stepped to do and he whipped your *** just for stepping to him maybe your mom should've told you not to talk to strangers.
or just go straight to the cops and let them handle it. :x

 

[shoefreakbaby]

One thing I dont understand that hasnt be really mentioned is Trayvon was found face down with a gun shot wound to the front part of his chest. If that is the case, Trayvon would had to of been on top, or else how would he landed face down with hands beneath him with a witness testifying claiming he was not touched? Also if you are on top, why would you be screaming for "help"?

That makes some sense.

But tray didnt die instantly so who knows how he ended up.
If he crawled etc

George "said" he tried to get up.

 

[mr marcus]

Zimmerman really thought he was an authority figure

What a short obese loser

 

[7thave btn 31stn33rd st]

Zimmerman moved the body. He said he spread Trayvon's arms out on the grass to see if he had any weapons.

Did Zimmerman say that because the Witness stated today that he saw Zimmerman on the phone 10-20sec after he heard the gunshot. So Zimmerman in 10-20sec turned him over, positioned him, search him for weapons, and called 911 and finished that call in that amount of time? I don't know what was said before the trial started.


This is a ****** case, all of this could of been avoided.

 

[duba169]

Zimmerman really thought he was an authority figure

What a short obese loser

He's essentialy a paranoid herb who just couldn't mind his own business and lost a fight. Why some people think that gives him the right to blast away I'll never understand.

Gun in his possession gave him some big balls. His true nature from everything we've heard is that he is a coward.

With that said, he is gonna be found not guilty.

 

[sooperhooper]

People are treating the dispatch as if he's a random person. You call them for a reason, so that they can contact authorities and they give you information on how to handle the situation. They've been trained on how to handle several incidents and he said confidently "we don't need you to do that". He said that for a reason, because Zimmerman would've been overstepping his boundaries. People are acting like a pizza Hut delivery boy advised him what to do. The dispatch serves as a liason to the law. He told gz to chill in order to avoid any danger.

I wish i could be on the prosecution team for 1 hour.

 

[sooperhooper]

If the prosecution know what they're doing, they'll get the charge they're going for.

If not, they'll at least get 1st degree manslaughter.

 

[moonmaster3]

People are treating the dispatch as if he's a random person. You call them for a reason, so that they can contact authorities and they give you information on how to handle the situation. They've been trained on how to handle several incidents and he said confidently "we don't need you to do that". He said that for a reason, because Zimmerman would've been overstepping his boundaries. People are acting like a pizza Hut delivery boy advised him what to do. The dispatch serves as a liason to the law. He told gz to chill in order to avoid any danger.

I wish i could be on the prosecution team for 1 hour.

And what would you do if you were on the prosecution?

 

[Betonblck]

Zimmerman moved the body. He said he spread Trayvon's arms out on the grass to see if he had any weapons.

Did Zimmerman say that because the Witness stated today that he saw Zimmerman on the phone 10-20sec after he heard the gunshot. So Zimmerman in 10-20sec turned him over, positioned him, search him for weapons, and called 911 and finished that call in that amount of time? I don't know what was said before the trial started.


This is a ****** case, all of this could of been avoided.

Yea, I'm pretty sure that this was in one of Zimmerman's 5 different stories about what happened that night.