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Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread
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Who is the producer that Chance paid under the table? And for what song?
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Chance the Rapper paid a producer signed to justice league for the No Problems beat.
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Joe made a good point that even if Chance paid the actual producer of the record under the table, he still has to pay JL since the dude is signed under them.
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Why is this not being talked about on a massive scale? This is a very serious allegation.
This dude is claiming that a multimillion dollar company tried to kill him. For all that dismissiveness over "conspiracies"...here is one that isn't buried under a sea of "illuminati" talk.
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didnt watch today's ep but they didnt cover it?
isnt exactly like southside is some washed up crazy bum either...he, tm, metro and zay are probably the highest in demand producers right now
would be kinda fishy if this just blew over
but i think he deleted all mentions of it from his IG so maybe thats why
Too lazy to look to see if its on there but its fishy if Akademiks will cover lil pump getting his dreads retwisted and not a multiplatinum producer claiming interscope tried to have him killed or at least dropped him from a label deal for defending himself
isnt exactly like southside is some washed up crazy bum either...he, tm, metro and zay are probably the highest in demand producers right now
would be kinda fishy if this just blew over
but i think he deleted all mentions of it from his IG so maybe thats why
Too lazy to look to see if its on there but its fishy if Akademiks will cover lil pump getting his dreads retwisted and not a multiplatinum producer claiming interscope tried to have him killed or at least dropped him from a label deal for defending himself
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no matter what ties people think they've made to chance and CAA/Apple/Cara Lewis...
as long as he doesnt have a record label he's independent
Knowing how to network with important #hwypipo does not make him not independent
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legally he does but isnt this the same type of stuff people wanna come at puff and people similar for
why are they going this hard for a track they didnt produce...isnt chance doing the "hip hop" thing
and actually if it was legally owed to justice league it wouldnt have gone to twitter because the courrs would have already decided that chance was in the wrong
they just need to fall back with the twitter fingers and start on maybach music 8
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If you clearly getting pushed by a machine you ain't independent lol
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I don't see it that way. If he paid the dude who made the beat, why does he have to pay them? Shouldn't they own a cut of what the producer got?
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he paid for that trash beat
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If dude signed a contract making him an employee of JL, why wouldn't you have to pay JL for the product you got from said employee?
You can't legally just hand someone working at Walmart $2 and walk out with a coffee just because he made it for you. I know it's gross oversimplification but I think the point still stands.
You can't legally just hand someone working at Walmart $2 and walk out with a coffee just because he made it for you. I know it's gross oversimplification but I think the point still stands.
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but like bruh said
thats between the producer and justice league to pay them their cut off of whatever they recieved
seems to me it would usually work like justice league gets the money, takes their cut and pays the rest to the producer
but chance did it in the reverse and this mystery producer didnt give them their cut so now chance is out of the equation
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I know he had some Kanye co-sign, but Chance went 0-100. And that hasn't exactly worked for Cyhi and he's a lot better rapper. Kanye isn't exactly Dr Dre with the co-sign either(GLC, Consequence, Rhymesfest). Look at how many people have to release numerous mixtapes before getting noticed.
Chance went from nothing to a Drake like Apple backing and what obviously was a major album budget with the features(Kanye, Chainz, Bieber, Future, Ty $...) which was a stark contrast to Acid Rap which was Chicago and underground centered.
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but you can though?
if he grinded to a certain point to where these #hwypipo know he's profitable then why are we discrediting that
if he pops up in a partnership w disney or apple isnt that the same concept of what P or @ a time Hov/Dame was doing? partnering with people who can take your **** to the next level but still owning your own?
What Chance is doing SHOULD be the blueprint for future artists IMO.
I think people just dont like that he made it his selling point.
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Most artist aren't going to be able to do what Chance did. It's easier said than done.
Apple is going to sit down with how many artist? Chance has crossover and pop appeal. That doesn't apply to most rappers.
Look how long it took Future to finally crossover. And a lot of that was a Drake look, because he actually did a whole album then the tour, instead of just a remix.
Young Thug is popular? Hasn't equated to numbers. Same with Yachty, despite national commercials. It can be argued that Apple and a major label push might help, but the music matters. Everyone loves God fearing and wholesome innocent looking non threatening Chance.
Apple is going to sit down with how many artist? Chance has crossover and pop appeal. That doesn't apply to most rappers.
Look how long it took Future to finally crossover. And a lot of that was a Drake look, because he actually did a whole album then the tour, instead of just a remix.
Young Thug is popular? Hasn't equated to numbers. Same with Yachty, despite national commercials. It can be argued that Apple and a major label push might help, but the music matters. Everyone loves God fearing and wholesome innocent looking non threatening Chance.
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IDK, I been hearing about Chance for a minute, I don't think he just popped up out of no where like people want to believe.
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Acid Rap was underground as hell and had no charting single. It was a popular mixtape, that was it.
So Far Gone had charting singles that actually sold.
So Far Gone had charting singles that actually sold.
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imo it just boils down to chance and drake making easy to digest, relatable music that everyone of all races 5-45 can relate to. and are marketable themselves. like you said they both have pop appeal.
thats the common denominator here its not some conspiracy like a lot of people try to make it lol.
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I wouldn't say he popped up outta nowhere but it also wasn't some grassroots build up either. Acid Rap was a internet thing and he started getting very little shine to of a sudden the _ is like a superstar. Loved by all these mainstream people. He's being pushed in peoples face kinda quick as that _.
It ain't a conspiracy, it's common sense if you know how the mainstream works. Having connects helps A LOT. That's all the mainstream is about, who you know. I'm sure his parents have played apart and it is what it is that's what parents are supposed to do but this "Chance is by himself and others can do it too" thing is false. lol This ain't no Master P situation.
Other people don't grow up with the Obama's hanging out with their parents.
It ain't a conspiracy, it's common sense if you know how the mainstream works. Having connects helps A LOT. That's all the mainstream is about, who you know. I'm sure his parents have played apart and it is what it is that's what parents are supposed to do but this "Chance is by himself and others can do it too" thing is false. lol This ain't no Master P situation.
Other people don't grow up with the Obama's hanging out with their parents.
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Pretty much this . He's accessible and has a squeaky clean image. The industry loves that.
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Also, his music translates very well to live performances. He uses a ton of live instrumentation, so he's been having high grossing live shows long before he did a deal for Colouring Book. He was making over six figures a show almost 4 years ago and doing pretty decent sized arenas and festivals, I can verify that. People think because he didn't have radio singles that he wasn't out here and that's wrong. I don't know about right now but he was independent up until last year at least.
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He was making over 100k for a show in 2013? The hell
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i was in HS at the time and we were ******* with it heavy.
by summer 14 that lonely song about the netflix and siracha was at house parties full of white people and i wouldnt even expect that **** to take off lol.
maybe thats still underground but it def hit with his target audience
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2014, 3 years and change ago he quoted that much for a medium sized festival on the east coast.
