Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

Ace Hood wasn’t just a nobody rapper. For him to be unknown now because Khaled wanted to self promote is telling.


he's unknown now because he doesn't put out music people want to hear , granted Khalid did want to promote himself since he wanted to be an artist and saw himself making a name for himself as a celebrity . But some of that of the short comings of him not blowing is on him outside of hustle hard , Bugatti and a few dj Khalid mega remixes or compilation songs that was it for him . Everybody aint meant to blow because they have a big single , music business is full of one hit wonders.
 



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Lol smh ...tariq nasheed got me hip to this joint a few years ago..I didnt start listrning to west coast music like that until 2013-2014
 
banks wanted to get away from fif for years, never made a peep bout it but every one just KNEW. Lol

Weird to look @ old footage of them and banks body language is screamin **** this *****. Lol
Yayo was the only ***** that wanted to be there
 
everyone aint meant to be a star but Ace Hood was as good a template as anyone he coulda found if Khaled was gonna have a Dre/Snoop, Biggie/Puff, Irv/Ja dynamic with someone.

I’m not his biggest fan but dude could make a record and wasn’t a slouch lyrically, no real unique worldview or aesthetic bt thats most ******

also his watch exploded on BET Awards which helped quiet **** down for him
 
Vado,s a good rapper. He just shot himself in the foot in a major way. From what Cam said in a interview, is that after hearing his music, he teamed up with him to make those BOAB mixtapes. This is when everyone in Dipset went their separate ways music wise. He wanted to build another music brand similar to Dipset. He found Vado, and had Aarabmuzik make the majority of the beats. After the 1st tape, they labels getting at them. Cam sets up a record deal with a label for Vado solo albums, and for their Group BOAB series. Long story short, Cam said that Vados people’s started getting inside of his head, telling him stuff like he wasn’t making enough money, and that Cam was talking behind his back. Camron said all of that wasn’t true, and that he was disappointed in Vado wanting to leave to go over to Khaleds label after he made him hot and getting him his first deal. Cam said after that situation, he’ll never invest in a new artist, he said it took a lot of time and money to invest in Vado, just for him to up and leave once the ball started to get rollin.

He said after Dipset and Vado, he’ll never try to bring a new artist aboard with him. Vados mistake is that he didn’t recognize that he could’ve had a longer successful run with Cam behind him as a group member/manager. Because Vado,s sound is an off shoot of Dipset (EastCoast/Sped up sample sound). If he stays in that pocket with Cam, he becomes a bigger artist than what he panned out to be. Most new artists don’t understand that if you start out with a regional sound, then you have to stay with that while building up your fan base. Why would you jump ship right after Cam gets you poppin? I know these artists are different success wise, but Imagine if Currensy, or Slim thug, Kodak Black makes the wrong decisions before blowing up. The wrong decisions business wise can stop you from being a bigger star than what you are. Lol at the Ace Hood comments. I don’t know y’alls perception on what blowing up means, but Ace Hood did blow up, he was on hit records, so that’s blowing up in my opinion.

He just wasn’t successful long term as a album artist. He was a one trick pony. He could ride a hard beat that was hit, but he didn’t have a story/background/personality to make enough people interested in him enough to buy his albums. Some are all around artist like Hov/Pac/Ross, that can bring you a hit record with good album content. Most new rappers today can’t give you that.

Your time table is off.

Vado was with Cam for years before he left for Khaled.

He was with Cam for three or four years already. And who had Cam popped off by himself? How much time do you need? Of course people are going to get in his ear. All Cam got him with was E1, not even a major. He could have gotten that on his own. It was good he left Cam, he just shouldn't have left for Khaled. Signing to another artist is bad overall. Both Cam and Khaled were bad situations.
 
I disagree. West got so much love from like 89-99, then they had damn near a decade of trash music. Then the last few years mad people been saying TDE the best label and has the best rappers. They get theirs.

Game was the only one holding down the west for a long time.
 
I disagree. West got so much love from like 89-99, then they had damn near a decade of trash music. Then the last few years mad people been saying TDE the best label and has the best rappers. They get theirs.

A decade of trash music :lol Alright.

That just goes to show like I said, outside of the major artists, we are underlooked.
 


Juelz :smh:

I wonder how many projects he passed on because of laziness aka drugs


Fab lowkey petty for this :lol: he took out one of the hashtags he had on there lol

Didn’t him and Juelz have “beef” or something
 
A decade of trash music :lol: Alright.

That just goes to show like I said, outside of the major artists, we are underlooked.

who were the hot 00’s LA rappers outside of The Game, and late 00’s blog era people that bled into the next generation like Dom, Casey, OverDoz, Pac Div that all took off 08-09.
 
Fab lowkey petty for this :lol: he took out one of the hashtags he had on there lol

Didn’t him and Juelz have “beef” or something

I don't remember them having public beef. There was something about Juelz shorty being one of the many ones Fab ran thru I believe though.
 
I wouldn't say trash but it was a gap period from the Deathrow/ Bay area/E40/Spice 1 when new artist wasn't really poppin til Game.

There's no debating that. Dude was making it seem like there was nothing coming out that was good. For whatever reason, we always just have one really big artists and everybody else goes unnoticed.
 
There's no debating that. Dude was making it seem like there was nothing coming out that was good. For whatever reason, we always just have one really big artists and everybody else goes unnoticed.

Other than obviously Game, who was poppin from CA outside of CA? E40 had a couple songs but they were basically south songs. Who else? Mistah FAB? Them joints were popping outside of CA and a lot of the music we heard was awful. I remember the jokes about how it might be over forever for the west coast it was so bad.
 
Other than obviously Game, who was poppin from CA outside of CA? E40 had a couple songs but they were basically south songs. Who else? Mistah FAB? Them joints were popping outside of CA and a lot of the music we heard was awful. I remember the jokes about how it might be over forever for the west coast it was so bad.

I never spoke on who was poppin outside of Cali.
I was saying we were underlooked. We always just have one big artist and everybody else underneath them. An example is RJ. He's big in LA but I wouldn't expect many here to know about him. Nipsey literally came out in 05 and bruh is barely getting his shine. And that wasn't until Jay Z bought his tapes or whatever. Its aways been like that. Part of the reason is because of the gangbangin presence and how it limits us.

And E40 had southern sounding songs? The Hyphy movement was big in 2004-2005.
 
He was signed to Lil Jon making Lil Jon records.

Nipsey wasn't getting love the first few years cause he was too similar to Snoop.

No clue who RJ is but I barely even check for new rap nowadays.

Y'all had a huge run for 10 years and then fell off. Then on a crazy run again right now for probably like 7-8 years.
 
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