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Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread
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Never saw this
"The fellas over at 2DBZ got their hands on the original tracklist for Jay-Z’s seminal 1996 debut LP and lo and behold, there are some surprises. First off the sequencing is different. As the Dopeboyz noted, the sequencing on the version of the album that made it to retail is way better, but I suppose hindsight is 20/20. The other thing you notice immediately is that the album would’ve included 3 extra tracks that didn’t make it onto the version that we are familiar with. What became of these songs? Were they leaked under different titles, or were the lyrics cannibalized for other songs? It’s very possible that they exist on a hard drive or DAT out there somewhere, in which case, GOOD GOD JAY YOU GOT YOUR PUBLISHING, LEAK THOSE ***** ALREADY MAN."
"The fellas over at 2DBZ got their hands on the original tracklist for Jay-Z’s seminal 1996 debut LP and lo and behold, there are some surprises. First off the sequencing is different. As the Dopeboyz noted, the sequencing on the version of the album that made it to retail is way better, but I suppose hindsight is 20/20. The other thing you notice immediately is that the album would’ve included 3 extra tracks that didn’t make it onto the version that we are familiar with. What became of these songs? Were they leaked under different titles, or were the lyrics cannibalized for other songs? It’s very possible that they exist on a hard drive or DAT out there somewhere, in which case, GOOD GOD JAY YOU GOT YOUR PUBLISHING, LEAK THOSE ***** ALREADY MAN."
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Merry Christmas everybody. To Magic33, please tell me a Vado project that was as big as his first Boss Of All Bosses pt.1 Mixtape with Camron, that gave him momentum with a larger fan base outside of New York and the East Coast. He wasn’t known heavily outside of the EastCoast before he connected with Camron, so I’m not sure if your trolling or just wanting to argue for the sake of arguing. Camron put Vado on a level that was bigger than just being a regional rapper. If Vado doesn’t meet Camron, the videos and exposer with a bigger named rapper like Camron on projects like the BOAB series never happens.
Therefore, he would only start out and would be at the level he is at now, which is pretty low in the industry totem pole if we’re comparing in scale and ranking of success to other rappers. I was a Vado fan when he was making music with Cam, sonim not a hater. I’m not making this stuff up. Yea, E1 wasn’t a major. But it was a plan by Camron to get him in the door and to make bigger moves after that.
Camron has a entire interview talking about his situation with Vado. Your thinking from a perspective that he can spit really good, and that he would’ve made it in the industry without Camron. Correction, he would’ve gotten in the game because he can spit, that is correct. But he wouldn’t have made fire music like he did with Camron to get people outside of New York to even take notice of him if he didn’t. It’s more to it than just knowing how to spit, and having a major co-sign from a brand like Dipset to determine how your career is going to go. It’s the difference between being just a Rocky Marciano (which I’m a fan of), and someone else like a Camron, Jim Jones, Nip, Dave East, or Fab.
Basically Vado was Vados worst enemy. It happens all of the time behind the scenes in the rap industry. Once someone gets a little success that they never had before. They think they can do it by themselves without the people that helped get them hot in the first place. It’s something called ego. Listen to Vados music compared to the music he made with Cam. It’s all trash, except for the little gems he gives us from some good freestyles and a couple of collabs with Aarabmuzik here and there. His music now is not on the level of what he made with Cam at all, it’s like night and day. Cam said he had a gamplan set up for him like what he did with Jim and Juelz.
Vado just got impatient and committed career suicide. He went to Khaled, and he’s never been back on the level that he once was with Camron. He thought Khaled was going to make him this mega star, while all he had to do was stay with Cam and make fire music year after year while becoming more successful overtime. I think he wanted to be a overnight success rapper, compared to grind it out rapper. Grind it out rappers eventually become huge, it’s just not overnight. But you can make the mistake of trying to blow up overnight while making the wrong moves, and never gain the traction you once had. Camron said he’ll never make music with homie again because of how he just upped and left after Cam gave him that push. Why do you think you never seen them work together after that situation. There’s no telling how big he would’ve gotten if he stays with Camron and follows his business plan.
I think he should’ve continued to make music with Camron for another 4 years, because catalog means everything in music. It makes the difference between making 5-10k a show, compared to 30k+ a show. Vado makes bread. But he’s not making Camron, Jim Jones, juelz, Fabulous, Dave East, etc show money. Imagine if Dave East leaves Mass Appeal at the beginning of his career because he gets big headed, or if Loyd Banks leaves once 50 gets g-unit their first deal, or if Fabulous leaves Clue/desert storm after the deal goes through It’s a lot of material that they wouldn’t have made compared to if they ride it out with those labels.
It’s more to the industry than just knowing how to spit. If your selfish and impulsive and not loyal, it will backfire on you, especially if you just barely getting your feet wet in the game.
Therefore, he would only start out and would be at the level he is at now, which is pretty low in the industry totem pole if we’re comparing in scale and ranking of success to other rappers. I was a Vado fan when he was making music with Cam, sonim not a hater. I’m not making this stuff up. Yea, E1 wasn’t a major. But it was a plan by Camron to get him in the door and to make bigger moves after that.
Camron has a entire interview talking about his situation with Vado. Your thinking from a perspective that he can spit really good, and that he would’ve made it in the industry without Camron. Correction, he would’ve gotten in the game because he can spit, that is correct. But he wouldn’t have made fire music like he did with Camron to get people outside of New York to even take notice of him if he didn’t. It’s more to it than just knowing how to spit, and having a major co-sign from a brand like Dipset to determine how your career is going to go. It’s the difference between being just a Rocky Marciano (which I’m a fan of), and someone else like a Camron, Jim Jones, Nip, Dave East, or Fab.
Basically Vado was Vados worst enemy. It happens all of the time behind the scenes in the rap industry. Once someone gets a little success that they never had before. They think they can do it by themselves without the people that helped get them hot in the first place. It’s something called ego. Listen to Vados music compared to the music he made with Cam. It’s all trash, except for the little gems he gives us from some good freestyles and a couple of collabs with Aarabmuzik here and there. His music now is not on the level of what he made with Cam at all, it’s like night and day. Cam said he had a gamplan set up for him like what he did with Jim and Juelz.
Vado just got impatient and committed career suicide. He went to Khaled, and he’s never been back on the level that he once was with Camron. He thought Khaled was going to make him this mega star, while all he had to do was stay with Cam and make fire music year after year while becoming more successful overtime. I think he wanted to be a overnight success rapper, compared to grind it out rapper. Grind it out rappers eventually become huge, it’s just not overnight. But you can make the mistake of trying to blow up overnight while making the wrong moves, and never gain the traction you once had. Camron said he’ll never make music with homie again because of how he just upped and left after Cam gave him that push. Why do you think you never seen them work together after that situation. There’s no telling how big he would’ve gotten if he stays with Camron and follows his business plan.
I think he should’ve continued to make music with Camron for another 4 years, because catalog means everything in music. It makes the difference between making 5-10k a show, compared to 30k+ a show. Vado makes bread. But he’s not making Camron, Jim Jones, juelz, Fabulous, Dave East, etc show money. Imagine if Dave East leaves Mass Appeal at the beginning of his career because he gets big headed, or if Loyd Banks leaves once 50 gets g-unit their first deal, or if Fabulous leaves Clue/desert storm after the deal goes through It’s a lot of material that they wouldn’t have made compared to if they ride it out with those labels.
It’s more to the industry than just knowing how to spit. If your selfish and impulsive and not loyal, it will backfire on you, especially if you just barely getting your feet wet in the game.
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I was actually looking fwd to that album and to me this set him back. In this day and age where so many of these young artists (lil baby, Younggboy, Kodak, Durk) drop multiple good projects in a year, A boogie dropped the baton on this one smh. It’s clear Tekashi belonged at the front regarding young artists from NYC *shrugs*
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Merry Christmas ya filthy animals
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Merry Christmas to my favorite thread on NT. Make my workdays breeze by.
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Merry Christmas to 1 of the only 6 threads I constantly check for online .
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Y’all boys ain’t capping when u say this the best thread on nt I kill so much time with this. Merry Christmas to y’all n ur families
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what does this mean
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Capping = lying.
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I’ve posted exclusively in the music section for like the last 3-4 years, now it’s getting to the point where I damn near only post in this thread
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Merry Christmas
Side note, I just want to say the youths taste in rap makes me feel old (I’m 31)
Side note, I just want to say the youths taste in rap makes me feel old (I’m 31)
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