Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[6pac]

Is there footage of JD at a beat machine during his prime

I’m only asking bc I got into JD as a kid w DFB and young fly flashy and all that and he was kinda touching up other ****** beats I.e. other dudes produced those mid 00’s so so def hits

Youtube got vids of him making beats from past few years and they....don’t sound like his golden age beats lol

 

[Hahahaha]

^ why don’t kanye get the same reaction then

Re: not appreciating what u have contributed and comparing w like award shows and ****

What you mean? JD was never a big solo artist. He was HUGE for R&B, beats and writing. He was more of a producer and featured artist for Hip Hop. He had a huge impact on both and a lot of people don't know or maybe don't take him serious cause he's 4'7"

I think most people think of JD and think of Bow Wow and Kriss Kross. They don't know how involved he was with Usher and Jagged Edge and a few of Mariah Carey's big albums.

Without hearing JD's interview, I'm assuming he's saying he blew up before Atlanta and was the one to really put Atlanta on the map.

 

[6pac]

He adding drums to people playing live

Which is cool

But also probably why he isn’t in the same convo as people who created a soundscape from scratch

 

[Peep Game]

"traditional" R&B is less mainstream

This, which is even an understatement itself. Current r&b overall is full of rappers that can’t actually sing, autotune, and singers that simply don’t have strong vocals, those light airy singers where if you put a mic in front of them without music, they’d sound terrible. Not having r&b groups is another reason for it’s decline, cause both male and female groups were huge staples at one point.

 

[6pac]

What you mean? JD was never a big solo artist. He was HUGE for R&B, beats and writing. He was more of a producer and featured artist for Hip Hop. He had a huge impact on both and a lot of people don't know or maybe don't take him serious cause he's 4'7"

I think JD did a lot but never really had that classic rap contribution that wasn’t some party ****. I know Kris Kross made some dope **** but he didn’t produce anything that made it anywhere near a top 10/classic project convo in rap. He never had that hallmark artist for his label/production that they can hold on to for years like Mannie has w Hot Boys, DRe w Em/Snoop, Kanye w himself and Hov, etc.

It was always some party **** or Da brat/Kris kross which was cool...but not in “that” convo respectfully.

He don’t know how to process that so he tryna take credit for a bunch of scattered yet important moments.

His argument would hold much more merit if he produced Luda or TI or OutKast debut that shifted southern rap production the way a neptunes, Ye, timbaland, Dre, Storch (Dre), etc. can say.

And lowkey...he’s the only superproducer from that era that has that distinction.

 

[a blinkin]

Can't compare the two

JD a legend, Wale a self entitled prick that really ain't as good or popular as he thinks he is.

JD been quiet for a long time, the last few years is when he started speaking up.

JD is undoubtedly a legend. The parallel I’m drawing between them is the behavior they display for not getting the accolades they think they deserve.

And you were literally about to cry tears over Murphy Lee. Your opinion on Wally is void as hell bruh

Don’t start that og ****. It’s too early dog.

 

[iamdef]

This, which is even an understatement itself. Current r&b overall is full of rappers that can’t actually sing, autotune, and singers that simply don’t have strong vocals, those light airy singers where if you put a mic in front of them without music, they’d sound terrible. Not having r&b groups is another reason for it’s decline, cause both male and female groups were huge staples at one point.

I think a bit of the decline in strength of a singer has to do with entertainment becoming more "important" than being able to sing. A singer who can perform became the foundation with the likes of Chris Brown, Omarion, Usher etc.
And with groups there was always the drive to be "The Lead" and watching groups split up and watch only 1 or 2 have their own careers survive probably turned a lot of people away from teaming up fearing they'd be seen as the failure or the Michelle of Destiny's Child

 

[Hahahaha]

I think JD did a lot but never really had that classic rap contribution that wasn’t some party ****. I know Kris Kross made some dope **** but he didn’t produce anything that made it anywhere near a top 10/classic project convo in rap. He never had that hallmark artist for his label/production that they can hold on to for years like Nannie has w Hot Boys, DRe w Em/Snoop, Kanye w himself and Hov, etc.

It was always some party **** or Da brat/Kris kross which was cool...but not in “that” convo respectfully.

He don’t know how to process that so he tryna take credit for a bunch of scattered yet important moments.

His argument would hold much more merit if he produced Luda or TI or OutKast debut that shifted southern rap production the way a neptunes, Ye, timbaland, Dre, etc. can say.

But he had an Usher, who was bigger than almost all the rappers you named. That's the thing, he didn't have one huge rap artist on his label but he had mad R&B acts so it's not as cool to the majority. He's a legend and a lot of the industry would tell you that because he was involved in so much music whether it was just a hook or just one beat for an album.

JD is undoubtedly a legend. The parallel I’m drawing between them is the behavior they display for not getting the accolades they think they deserve.

And you were literally about to cry tears over Murphy Lee. Your opinion on Wally is void as hell bruh

Don’t start that og ****. It’s too early dog.

You gonna tell me Murphy Lee wasn't nice?

Wale can rap, never been a fan of his flow or sound. Him crying all the time makes it even worse.


AND I said I was gonna cry cause I miss the jerseys and M&N era, not over Murphy Lee.

That's strike two lil *****

 

[6pac]

trap beats and autotune simoultaneiusly ****** up both r&b and rap

 

[6pac]

But he had an Usher, who was bigger than almost all the rappers you named. That's the thing, he didn't have one huge rap artist on his label but he had mad R&B acts so it's not as cool to the majority. He's a legend and a lot of the industry would tell you that because he was involved in so much music whether it was just a hook or just one beat for an album.

Usher is a legend but he still don’t have that classic rap contribution. And he never really changed the sound of rap the way Timb or Pharrell did.

It’s a reason they are discussed differently.

 

[a blinkin]

Wale makes it hard for people to be fans of his music, but son really is a good emcee. His ability to rap, in this generation, is seconded only by Kendrick.

I remember Murphy Lee dropping Murphy’s Law and just wasn’t moved by it. He smoked the Welcome to Atlanta remix though.

 

[a blinkin]

But he had an Usher, who was bigger than almost all the rappers you named. That's the thing, he didn't have one huge rap artist on his label but he had mad R&B acts so it's not as cool to the majority. He's a legend and a lot of the industry would tell you that because he was involved in so much music whether it was just a hook or just one beat for an album.



You gonna tell me Murphy Lee wasn't nice?

Wale can rap, never been a fan of his flow or sound. Him crying all the time makes it even worse.


AND I said I was gonna cry cause I miss the jerseys and M&N era, not over Murphy Lee.

That's strike two lil *****

Nah it’s gotta be strike 3 by now. I doubled down and told you to not be ***** again yesterday.

 

[Hahahaha]

Wale makes it hard for people to be fans of his music, but son really is a good emcee. His ability to rap, in this generation, is seconded only by Kendrick.

I remember Murphy Lee dropping Murphy’s Law and just wasn’t moved by it. He smoked the Welcome to Atlanta remix though.

Lee album was garbage but he was nice on features and the Lunatics album.

I was so hype for that solo album, couldn’t believe how bad it was. $15 in the trash.

About to play Life in 1472 now and then Free City.

JDs beats are more influential than you think

 

[HankHill]

JD dropped a lot of good info back in his Drink Champs interview.

 

[JRaW’d]

???

***** biggin up murphy lee and the st. lunatics but swear wayne cant rap.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

trap beats and autotune simoultaneiusly ****ed up both r&b and rap

Unoriginal mf and the death of regional sounds did it imo

 

[numbah1grimey]

Unoriginal mf and the death of regional sounds did it imo

And lame antics and publicity stunts by folks with no talent

 

[Maximus Meridius]

What you mean? JD was never a big solo artist. He was HUGE for R&B, beats and writing. He was more of a producer and featured artist for Hip Hop. He had a huge impact on both and a lot of people don't know or maybe don't take him serious cause he's 4'7"

I think most people think of JD and think of Bow Wow and Kriss Kross. They don't know how involved he was with Usher and Jagged Edge and a few of Mariah Carey's big albums.

Without hearing JD's interview, I'm assuming he's saying he blew up before Atlanta and was the one to really put Atlanta on the map.

JD is not with Dre as far as hip hop because JD don't have a Snoop/Dogg Pound. Eminem. 50. Game that he help put on. Then before that Dre did NWA and DOC's classic album. JD hasn't produced a classic Hip Hop album. 1472 is NOT close to The Chronic.

The R&B world is where his biggest impact is at but he made the mistake in not taking the credit for Confessions from the start. Look at Quincy Jones, he made sure people knew he did Thriller. All in the interviews... Award shows... Studio clips... Producing. He knew that album was gonna be a monster and got his credit. JD and Usher wanted to play along with the story that Confessions was about Usher and Chilli and it was good marketing but if JD was out front like "This is our album, I wrote and produced it" People would look at him in a higher light.

A lot of people didn't know he made Confessions til he started doing interviews a couple years ago, the people interviewing him ain't even know.

 

[Hahahaha]

Murphy Lee would rap laps around Wayne and his writers

 

[a blinkin]

at trap beats ******* up hip hop

 

[Maximus Meridius]

If you don't get outta here with this Murphy Lee ****.

 

[Peep Game]

Da Brat and Bow Wow were really JD’s staple rappers never thought about that

 

[a blinkin]

Jagged Edge as well.

Low key So So Def had some stars back in the day. It's a shame dudes tarnish their legacies by showing that they're bitter deep inside rather than letting their bodies of work speak.

 

[numbah1grimey]

Jagged Edge as well.

Low key So So Def had some stars back in the day. It's a shame dudes tarnish their legacies by showing that they're bitter deep inside rather than letting their bodies of work speak.

I agree. And like I said, once these people aren’t in the spotlight anymore, it bruises their ego. In 5-10 years, we will be saying the same thing about a lot of the household names right now. It’s a cycle.

I wondered who’ll be the first new generation artist to lash out, in the year 2030

After they’ve become an afterthought. You either let your career age gracefully, or wound up bitter. With the hunt for attention being at a premium, I cannot imagine how some of these people will handle it, if things change.

 

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