Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

Yeah I think Joe is just playing a chess move. Trying to get folks on his side. Look at the video. That **** has 1k likes and 2k dislikes. I think what he doing is working and he'll be back
 
Yeah I think Joe is just playing a chess move. Trying to get folks on his side. Look at the video. That **** has 1k likes and 2k dislikes. I think what he doing is working and he'll be back
Yeah, seems like a leverage move now, but Joe is the type to just walk away like that. He managed to use his unpredictability to his benefit.:lol:

Complex would be crazy to let him walk, unless he’s asking for some astronomical number.
 
It could be for leverage. If he's gone the whole week, they'll see if the views take a huge hit or not. If they hit low enough, I'm sure he'll get his money.

I feel like he likes this job too much to just leave but he's a weirdo so he probably would just walk away.

Joe said when the show was going into production, he texted my wife Scottie Beamin from Hot 97 asking her to do the show. She didn't respond because of his issues with Hot 97. Would rather look at her all damn day on that show. **** she's bad.
 
The comments :lol:


"Oh so Budden not here all week? No need to give them views then"


"Akademiks is cool but this show needs joe"

"Joe got multiple accounts talking bout "BRING JOE BACK"
 
I’m glad you asked that my friend. Walk with me. :lol:

In all seriousness, there’s nothing wrong with being paid your worth. Me suggesting otherwise would be foolish on my end. But to view it objectively, we don’t know how much Complex is offering, and we don’t know how much Joe believes he deserves. So let’s not speculate much on this part since all we have to good off is what he’s made public on his dealings with Complex. He said in the past is that he’s being paid, and it stands to reason that you wouldn’t stick around 8 months if you felt you weren’t being given your just due. I’d imagine Complex isn’t paying him crumbs.

The point I’m driving it as the idea that Joe sees himself as “a creator” and has been vocal about not doing things for the money. The guy has been on his podcast plenty of times saying that his moves aren’t based on monetary aspects, and he’s mentioned that his Jewish manager Ian is often at odds with him about that decision.

Now with everyday struggle, the way he himself is presenting it suggests that money aspect is the primary reason he’s choosing to walk away. That directly contradicts his statements on choosing to move for reasons other than the bag. It’s even more interesting now that he’s claiming that he created everyday struggle on his Twitter (how true that is, I don’t know).

Imo, that contradiction is indicative on a greater lack of “integrity”. More so than him calling out Big Sean and Metro for a money grab.

It's not a contradiction at all.

Selling your soul for money is very different from walking away because you're not being paid enough for what you create. He's always been about artists getting paid what they're worth.
 
It's plenty of other reasons to criticize Joe. Him wanting his bread ain't one of them. He drives that show period.


Outta all the G-Unit songs they picked Stunt 101 for the "who bodied who". That's why they need Joe. :lol:
 
The way this _ throwing the other side under the bus, its def a pressure/leverage move :lol:

He on Twitter hinting at having a new show coming soon, said Revolt hit him up etc

There's only so much revenue that show can generate on YouTube. It's not like they doing Fousey numbers.

If the show isn't making Complex dough...I can totally understand Verizon not feeling like they need to cough more bread up.

Yeah I've thought about this as well. I'm surprised one of these thirsty brands like Adidas haven't came on as a sponsor yet.
 
The way this _ throwing the other side under the bus, its def a pressure/leverage move :lol:

He on Twitter hinting at having a new show coming soon, said Revolt hit him up etc



Yeah I've thought about this as well. I'm surprised one of these thirsty brands like Adidas haven't came on as a sponsor yet.

Also IIRC, Google keeps 45% of all revenue...and for a show that’s not really doing crazy numbers anyway...the remaining slice of that pie that sound too lucrative.

If money is the motive here...it was always destined to fail if YouTube was the end game.

That Gilbert Arenas show is a waste too.
 
Also IIRC, Google keeps 45% of all revenue...and for a show that’s not really doing crazy numbers anyway...the remaining slice of that pie that sound too lucrative.

If money is the motive here...it was always destined to fail if YouTube was the end game.

That Gilbert Arenas show is a waste too.


that whole time when people’s vids were getting demonetized complex was still getting ads on all their vids

I’m sure they’re making a considerable amount on the vids

it doesn’t have to be in the millions of views to get a nice youtube check
 
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