Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

6pac said:
This really wild in retrospect considering Dame and Aaliyah + this being after the tape :lol:
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Dame's whole reaction to Jay working with Kelly when they both knew what he did to Aaliyah is crazy.

These dudes really overlook anything for money. They saw a bag and that's that. Dame falling back really wasn't enough given this was like a 5 year period.
 
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All these industry ****** knew son wasn't right, but again the music industry ain't exactly the gold standard of morality.
 
The world itself ain’t a gold standard for morality. Heck, the American soil we walk is filthy. I’m still gone play R. Kelly music. I don’t condone what he did.


But there are products, all sorts of things IN USE to this very day that were created and made by sickos. Ya’ll all benefited in some way, shape or form. If you drive a Benz or BMW.... know the history
 
finessence said:
The world itself ain’t a gold standard for morality. Heck, the American soil we walk is filthy. I’m still gone play R. Kelly music. I don’t condone what he did.


But there are products, all sorts of things IN USE to this very day that were created and made by sickos. Ya’ll all benefited in some way, shape or form. If you drive a Benz or BMW.... know the history
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I think I was in 6th grade when that ‘tape’ dropped and I remember it being talked about. I always thought it was weird that people still worked with him despite knowing what he did. Now this time around everybody wants to do the “right” thing and cancel/disassociate themselves. The same mfs that don’t condone what he did worked with him after the tape dropped.
 
Ricky D said:
I think I was in 6th grade when that ‘tape’ dropped and I remember it being talked about. I always thought it was weird that people still worked with him despite knowing what he did. Now this time around everybody wants to do the “right” thing and cancel/disassociate themselves. The same mfs that don’t condone what he did worked with him after the tape dropped.
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He married Aaliyah in 1994!!! 1994! She was FIFTEEN! They haven’t cared in 27 years, that taped dropped in 2002. So again, they ain’t care as early as 1994.....


He was 27, Aaliyah was 15. They gave that man a pass his entire career. Used him up, then realized it was time to cut ties. That’s how it go.
 
finessence said:
He married Aaliyah in 1994!!! 1994! She was FIFTEEN! They haven’t cared in 27 years, that taped dropped in 2002. So again, they ain’t care as early as 1994.....


He was 27, Aaliyah was 15. They gave that man a pass his entire career. Used him up, then realized it was time to cut ties. That’s how it go.
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The reason I think ppl over look the marriage specifically is cuz legal age to get married is mad low in some states. To this day 15 and 16 year olds can get married to grown ppl without parent consent. Then there's states where parents have to give consent and some actually do.

I remember watching Jerry Springer, Montell, Sally Jesse Raphael, Geraldo, Ricki Lake, and Jenny Jones where they would have those specials shining light on a Mormon dude with 5 wives and the youngest being 14. Stuff like that made it known this is happening across the country.

I can see how ppl overlook this in the 90s and not immediately scream pedophile.
 
Ricky D said:
I think I was in 6th grade when that ‘tape’ dropped and I remember it being talked about. I always thought it was weird that people still worked with him despite knowing what he did. Now this time around everybody wants to do the “right” thing and cancel/disassociate themselves. The same mfs that don’t condone what he did worked with him after the tape dropped.
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Big facts

A lot of people was complicit and looked the other way. And the cognitive dissonance and rationalization of it was wild even in real time. Shoot, kells even got BIGGER then. The music was incredible, and people was making too much money with kells.
 
I think one thing the Aaliyah thing didn't kill his career was because the world was different. You got information from the actual news and newspapers. Besides that it was like Vibe, The Source and radio discussion. It was easier to hide and to push under the table. Especially factoring it involved urban music and black girls. I remember reading about it in Vibe, but if they don't push it, who does? I don't recall BET doing much about it, or talking about it on BET News. He also wasn't as big when that happen. It was really just 12 play and the group joint.

I don't know what I thought of the Aaliyah situation. I pretty much didn't. I was a kid and I can't say I gave a **** about her or him. I was worried about school and having fun and ****. So it wasn't even about, I'm not playing R Kelly. I didn't know if was rumor or true and didn't care, because it wasn't effecting my day to day.

Also social media with the sex tape. I think pretty much the only thing around was like message boards and blackplanet. This was even before myspace. So you didn't have twitter to have more real time discussion. With that, I didn't give a ****, but I was talking to my sister and she was telling me about it and she saw it. I was like word? She showed me the one with the of age chick and I saw it was him and I was good. Heard he was with a young chick also, thought dude was sick, but had real world **** to worry about. Sorry, didn't care.

Think about now. if that sex tape released. Besides the pee on you jokes, you would have a lot more real time discussion and both fake and real outrage. Like with Pill Cosby or Kevin Spacey. Different world.

I remember I was listening to Doug Banks(RIP) on the radio out of Chicago and he was specifically talking about Chester, and I was like it's THAT known by people in Chicago? How do they allow that? I even had a friend from Chicago who was like yeah, dude used to pull up at the high school all the time. It was common knowledge. By then I was a little older and less self centered and was off dude.

I think that's what's sometimes lost in everything. Life is real, a lot of people have their own problems and situations to worry about. Be it school, family or otherwise. It's not our job to police other people, so you can't necessarily blame the public. When it's predators in our cities. Blame the police, the DA, parents who sold off their kids and everyone who looked the other way and enabled him.
 
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