Shooting Reported at Las Vegas Casino Hotel

sfc415 said:
No, it had everything to do with what you said. You stated that a heart attack is equally as traumatic as a death from a random mass shooting. One is a health issue that may have been preventable, while the other was just a senseless act of violence. They are NOT the same. I can accept my grandfather's death as a sad reality of life; I can't accept someone ending it by shooting him while he's perfectly healthy and happy
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Can you show where I said they are equally traumatic in my post? I was unable to find it.

What I did say was watching a parent flat line from a heart attack is traumatic as well, not that they were equal or one more so then the other. Like I said death is subjective. I'm not going to tell the next man how to handle his. What gives you the right to say one death is more important then the next?

I'd like to think that you can realize a mass murderer is likely to have a mental health issue which prompted him to commit the acts in the first place. Albeit of the mind, it is still a health issue. What gives you the arbitrary right to say physical health < mental health?

I don't know how else to say it, but if you care about people you care about people. There's no way 600,000 people are dying for what ever reason and it's not a national problem. That doesn't mean we have to say mass murders and mental health issues are not important either. Like my dude said, we can walk at chew at the same time.
 
HAWAII 5O said:
Niketalk...

Thank you for your concerns! From the shoutouts to the messages I received on here, not including the countless missed phone calls and mass texts that I could not respond to.

Although, physically I’m okay, I don’t think mentally or emotionally I am. My body is numb, I still cannot process what really went down last night. Even after all the debriefings, it was surreal, straight out of a movie scene. You see and feel pure fear in everybody’s eyes, everybody’s body language. It’s like they were zombies, there was no soul in Vegas last night. The atmosphere was also dead.

I worked 24 hours straight since yesterday. I was finally able to go home a couple hours ago. I met up with family and friends... they were all already at my house waiting for me. As I parked in my own driveway, I could not help but just sit there, it seemed as I sat there forever.

I walk in my own house and I break down in tears. The blood on my uniform were not mine, the tears on my shoulder were not mine, they belonged to those who were incapable of helping themselves. They belonged to the other Officers that also broke down emotionally.

After the shooting, I conducted “crowd control” and perimeter checks throughout the Valley Hospitals, where I witnessed hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands of family member grieving in the parking lot. People calling and asking for help, asking if their loved ones are alive or where they were. I had no answer for them, I was speechless as they were.

I witnessed Nevada Civilians taking the time out of their own day, spending their own money to buy food, blankets and water to provide to the affected people. People were donating their blood throughout the whole city.

I witnessed Nurses, Doctors, EMTs, Fire Fighters... ect. being called in on their days off, helping, assisting and saving lives.

Over 50 people dead, over 500 people injured, over 22,000 people traumatized.... and millions of people angered!

I’m not going to try to read 50+ pages of this thread, because I feel I already know the conversations that consist in these type of threads.

With that said, I ask you a favor Niketalk... let’s come together! Stand together and put our differences aside! And to @Method Man just say the word brother, make that Donation Thread and ill be first to donate whenever I can.
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Damn. Glad you're safe.
 
C.Magneto said:
Can you show where I said they are equally traumatic in my post? I was unable to find it.

What I did say was watching a parent flat line from a heart attack is traumatic as well, not that they were equal or one more so then the other. Like I said death is subjective. I'm not going to tell the next man how to handle his. What gives you the right to say one death is more important then the next?

I'd like to think that you can realize a mass murderer is likely to have a mental health issue which prompted him to commit the acts in the first place. Albeit of the mind, it is still a health issue. What gives you the arbitrary right to say physical health < mental health?

I don't know how else to say it, but if you care about people you care about people. There's no way 600,000 people are dying for what ever reason and it's not a national problem. That doesn't mean we have to say mass murders and mental health issues are not important either. Like my dude said, we can walk at chew at the same time.
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Got it, sorry for misunderstanding. I still disagree with you on one death versus the other though. You're right that 600K people dying from heart disease is a major issue, but to me it's a much more preventable issue than someone shooting up a crowd. Much of that 600K is due to the lifestyle choices of modern Americans; they weren't dying at this rate when people here were more fit and had proper diets (correct me if I'm wrong). Yes, there are people who randomly have heart attacks, but a good portion of them can be traced back to terrible habits.

I mean using my grandfather as an example, we told him to clean up his diet for YEARS but he refused to listen. When he died from a heart attack, it was not really surprising. If he was a completely healthy man who just got shot in the head for no reason, we would not have reacted the same emotionally. That's all I'm trying to say.
 
Sir San Diego said:
Damn. Glad you're safe.
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Thank you brother! I know you were one of the first ones to hit me up... appreciate the love bro! But damn I’m still awake 30 hours later, and I still don’t think I’ll sleep tonight. Will be praying for the victims and the families all night long.
 
Dang dude. Get some rest. I know it's easy for me to say not having witnessed the event and the people in person, but it sounds like you did good work out there. Your job's done for the night.
 
sfc415 said:
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Got it, apologies for misunderstanding. I still disagree with you on one death versus the other though. You're right that 600K people dying from heart disease is a major issue, but to me it's a much more preventable issue than someone shooting up a crowd. Much of that 600K is due to the lifestyle choices of modern Americans; they weren't dying at this rate when people here were more fit and had proper diets (correct me if I'm wrong)
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It's all good. The diets are definitely a lifestyle choice. With that said, a lot of those people are completely uneducated on real nutrition and with so many people living an unhealthy lifestyle it's not really looked at as being something of immediate concern. Not sure if you recall in the beginning of our dialogue, i agreed with you that in my opinion someone being murdered in their 20's opposed to a person in the later stages succumbing to the wear and tear of life is more traumatic. But that's my 2 cents and I can't speak for the next man.

My stance is question everything. In 1998 700,000 people died from heart disease. I'd say this was prior to 9/11, domestic terrorism and abroad being mainstream concerns. In my mind i can't think of anything at the time that should have been more alarming then losing 700,000 members of my society. Yet it didnt receive half the coverage the domestic terror attacks are receiving. How can you say you genuinely care about the people of your society and let something like this go by unchecked with seemingly no other major distractions. All that to say i find it hard to believe the same people who didnt have the peoples best interest then, now do with no agenda in mind under the guise of gun control.

In regards to the mass murders occurring, they are an extension of mental health problems. Regulating guns would just be treating the symptoms, if we really wanna heal the issue we have to go to the core of it. Based on differing opinions it could be a few things, but what ever it may be the disease will find a way to express it self. Until we solve the issue of the disease it will find ways to rear its head. I've laid out in my previous post what i think the disease was.
 
HAWAII 5O said:
Thank you brother! I know you were one of the first ones to hit me up... appreciate the love bro! But damn I’m still awake 30 hours later, and I still don’t think I’ll sleep tonight. Will be praying for the victims and the families all night long.
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Glad to hear you are ok man. Let us know if we can do anything for you.
 
the same could be said for about the people fascinated with shoes who would camp and pay ridiculous amounts just for some sneakers

There's people fascinated with cars, guns, video games, etc

When I moved down south I thought going to the range was the biggest waste of money, until I self reflected and thought "I spend hundreds on the same shoe, in a different colorway"
 
I’m surprised that no casino footage of this guy has been released. Like nothing from check in or even walking thru the casino Vegas is known for the eye in the sky.
 
jumpmanpro97 said:
I’m surprised that no casino footage of this guy has been released. Like nothing from check in or even walking thru the casino Vegas is known for the eye in the sky.
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It just happened last night but i'm sure there will be. He must have made multiple trips through that lobby to all those guns up.
 
Truley thankful my in-laws that were hanging out in that vicinity after the Golden knights game left that end of the strip only a hour and half before it went down. Glad they didn't have to be in the middle of that chaos that ensued.

My homies on the other hand walked right into all that chaos. They ended their boys night out early and tried making their way back to the MGM to meet up their girlfriends. They were trapped on the bridge that takes you from Tropicana into the MGM. Metro wasn't letting anyone cross because they had that intersection shut down for a good minute. They didn't return my texts until early in the AM but they described it like it was a warzone. Seeing all the videos on twitter is crazy and I couldn't even imagine what it would be like being there.

My girl ended up leaving work early and couldn't help but break down. You hear of all these events that happen all over our country and the world, but when it hits where your family calls home and you feel it first hand is devastating. I've spent all day reflecting on this horrible tradegy

Just want to thank my 808 braddah K Kaleo15
for his service in the community! Get your rest bro and the 9th island appreciates all you've done!
 
I've lived in Vegas since I was 7 years old (28 now) and I've never felt the energy of the city like this before. The whole town is shook.

luckily, all my loved ones are safe. What's crazy is that my cousin, who works Mandalay Bay, crossed the street where the concert was being held, to get picked up about an hour before it all went down.

Vegas is pretty small compared to other cities (I actually consider it just a big town), so I know a lot of people that knew people that were down there. I knew 2 people personally that was there when it happened. Luckily they made it out, but their friend got shot and is in critical condition. Figured out it was one of my classmates from the 5th grade. Crazy s***.

Too many stories I've heard from others that I want to share but I feel like I wrote enough.
702<3
 
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