Should All Levels Of Basketball Have A Shot Clock? - Your Thoughts?

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I'm *SO* excited about the FIBA 2010 World Championships in Turkey that's coming up. One of the things that I enjoy about FIBA basketball is how skilled the players are. Since beginning to study and learn more about international basketball, the differences in style of play, rules, and development structure, the one thing that jumps out that changes the way the game is taught and played is the shot clock.

Let me expand on that that... It's the shortened FIBA 24-second shot clock AND the inability to interrupt a play by calling a timeout during live action which makes the biggest difference, to me, around the international basketball game. It has forced FIBA coaches to do two things:

  1. Develop the 'global' athlete
  2. Do their coaching (i.e. strategy, tactics, late-clock situations, etc.) in advance

THE GLOBAL ATHLETE

For a basketball player to excel in FIBA basketball, they must be multi-skilled. Players that can dribble, pass and shoot - from all positions - will excel in this game. In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that from I've come to learn, the 'big' who is the least effective shooter, regardless of height, becomes the '5'.

DOING YOUR COACHING IN ADVANCE

Let me explain this notion by making a parallel to another sport loved by so many... NFL football. Think back to that fateful moment in the 2010 NFC Championship Game when the Minnesota Vikings' quarterback, Brett Favre, was staring down the defense of the New Orleans Saints [video]. Viking ball... Tie game... 19 seconds left... 3rd and 15... Vikings with 1-time out... On the snap, the Saints come with pressure flushing Favre out of the pocket. Favre sprints right. He's looking. Coverage is tight and is about to throw across the field into tight coverage when... the COACH CALLS TIME OUT!

What?! What's wrong with that?

The coach sees that his star QB is about to make a fatal error and throw a pass that could get picked off. The defensive pressure is tough. Just call a time out and reset things.

Well, football fans would be irate. Deservedly so...

Well, what takes place with the use of time-outs in your typical NCAA or US high school basketball game is analogous to this scenario. Based on the current rules, a coach can call a time out on the fly when a turnover is about to occur... when they don't like what they see... when the defense makes the 'right call' forcing tough decision making.

Ultimately, the game is coach controlled. So much of the decision making that needs to take place at the athlete level, can still be manipulated by coaches. Now, there are those that argue, that that dynamic is inherently okay. That's the way it's always been. The challenge that gets overlooked is the impact it has on athlete development and in-game decision making.

This is the one thing that the FIBA coach understands, that we have yet to become aware of.

All good coaches know that if we can get our best players to take the most shots from spots on the floor where he/she can shoot the highest percentage, they'll have a good chance of scoring. And, without a shot clock a team can take as long as it wants to do this.

With a shot clock, on the other hand, a team has to get the best shot available within any given possession. This might not always be a team's best scorer; which is especially true in the shorter FIBA 24-second shot clock. The net effect for the FIBA coach is that their team cannot waste time to advance the ball up the court to initiate offense.

IMPACT: More players have to be able to initiate offensive transition through the use of breakout dribbles or develop vision and passing skills to 'head man' the ball.

This is why Lamar Odom, Rudy Gay, Kevin Love; and formerly, Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire, etc. prove so valuable in the FIBA game. (There are other reasons, I know.) Each is multi-skilled and can initiate offense with the dribble or pass effectively.

Here's another thing to consider... In a shortened shot clock basketball game, more late clock scenarios will arise where your best scorer will not be the only one with the ball in their hands.

IMPACT: More players have to have skills to initiate scoring; either by creating for themselves or for a teammate.

As a friend and mentor of mine, Mike MacKay, once wrote: "If at the end of a clock you: [a] always run continuity, have to yell set up, or [c] rely on same size screens you may need to reconsider what you do late in the clock [in the FIBA game]. Your players need to DEVELOP THE SKILLS TO MAKE PLAYS, NOT RUN PLAYS."

Here's more from Coach MacKay...

PLAYERS MUST DEVELOP A SHOT CLOCK, TIME-AND-SCORE MENTALITY. The speed of the game and types of shots available to you will be the biggest difference within this style of play. FIBA coaches are forced to develop a time-and-score mentality in their players. Players must catch the ball "shot ready" or in the least with a mindset to be opportunistic and to create or maintain advantage situations for their team.

The 'Shot Clock Game' requires:
  1. Ability to execute skills at a higher rate of speed
  2. Athletes to know how to make late clock decisions and have an awareness of time-and-score
  3. Development of multi-skilled athletes
Recently, Sports Illustrated wrote an article about Butler's Shelvin Mack redefining himself on USA Basketball's 2010 Men's Select Team.

"Mack [was] yelled at by U.S. select team coach Jay Wright once during the scrimmages in New York -- for not taking enough shots. Because they were working with a 24-second clock against a long-armed NBA zone, Wright pulled Mack to the bench to remind him that if he passed up one open shot, he might never get another one."


You see, in a coach controlled game (i.e. high school, AAU and NCAA), one of the subtleties of the game gets smothered: The development basketball IQ in our players.

A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS

Let's look at the numbers and the deeper impact of the shot clock in athlete development:

Number of Possessions (by both teams)
  • High School-AAU (no shot clock) = (4) possessions minimum
  • NCAA men (35-second shot clock) = (68) possessions minimum
  • NCAA women (30-second shot clock) = (80) possessions minimum
  • FIBA-WNBA (24-second shot clock) = (100) possessions minimum
  • NBA (24-second shot clock @ 48mins/game) = (120) possessions minimum

For some reason, when people see this, they think it's absurd to suggest that a high school level basketball game, in 2010, could only have four possessions. It's seems archaic (circa 1970s), right?

Well, I challenge you to step into a high school basketball game between a big city athletic team and a small town less-than-athletic team and observe for yourself. It happens all the time. Every summer in "big-time" AAU tournaments across the U.S., one team realizes that they can't out-athlete the other, so the coaching strategy is to take the 'air out of the ball.' They slow it down to minimize number of possessions to level the playing field.

The net effect is that yes, there are less possessions and an increased likelihood for the less athletic team to be able to compete for the win. But look deeper than that. There's a much deeper problem... Less possessions means more "Set it up! Set it up!" It means that less players get touches where meaningful action-reaction and initiation needs to take place. It means that one player on a team can 'dominate' - as the Euros like to say - the ball for extended periods of time. And, ultimately, it means that the development of a broader base of skilled and intelligent basketball comes to a screeching halt.

In the 'shot clock game' with only 24 seconds, at a minimum you're looking at 120 possessions. That's 120 opportunities where decisions have to be made... a minimum of 120 late clock situations... a minimum of 120... well, hopefully you get my point.

IMPACT: Improved offensively skilled players.

By simply changing the rules within which we play, we could drastically improve the quality of basketball player that's produced in North America. The rules alone would force us as coaches to teach more effectively.

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What do you think about the FIBA game and the 24-second shot clock? Would it help or hurt athlete development?

/sEf.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT: There are 212 basketball playing countries in the world, only one doesn’t play FIBA rules.


 
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[h3]HOW THE SHOT CLOCK IMPROVES PLAYER DEVELOPMENT[/h3]
I'm *SO* excited about the FIBA 2010 World Championships in Turkey that's coming up. One of the things that I enjoy about FIBA basketball is how skilled the players are. Since beginning to study and learn more about international basketball, the differences in style of play, rules, and development structure, the one thing that jumps out that changes the way the game is taught and played is the shot clock.

Let me expand on that that... It's the shortened FIBA 24-second shot clock AND the inability to interrupt a play by calling a timeout during live action which makes the biggest difference, to me, around the international basketball game. It has forced FIBA coaches to do two things:

  1. Develop the 'global' athlete
  2. Do their coaching (i.e. strategy, tactics, late-clock situations, etc.) in advance

THE GLOBAL ATHLETE

For a basketball player to excel in FIBA basketball, they must be multi-skilled. Players that can dribble, pass and shoot - from all positions - will excel in this game. In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that from I've come to learn, the 'big' who is the least effective shooter, regardless of height, becomes the '5'.

DOING YOUR COACHING IN ADVANCE

Let me explain this notion by making a parallel to another sport loved by so many... NFL football. Think back to that fateful moment in the 2010 NFC Championship Game when the Minnesota Vikings' quarterback, Brett Favre, was staring down the defense of the New Orleans Saints [video]. Viking ball... Tie game... 19 seconds left... 3rd and 15... Vikings with 1-time out... On the snap, the Saints come with pressure flushing Favre out of the pocket. Favre sprints right. He's looking. Coverage is tight and is about to throw across the field into tight coverage when... the COACH CALLS TIME OUT!

What?! What's wrong with that?

The coach sees that his star QB is about to make a fatal error and throw a pass that could get picked off. The defensive pressure is tough. Just call a time out and reset things.

Well, football fans would be irate. Deservedly so...

Well, what takes place with the use of time-outs in your typical NCAA or US high school basketball game is analogous to this scenario. Based on the current rules, a coach can call a time out on the fly when a turnover is about to occur... when they don't like what they see... when the defense makes the 'right call' forcing tough decision making.

Ultimately, the game is coach controlled. So much of the decision making that needs to take place at the athlete level, can still be manipulated by coaches. Now, there are those that argue, that that dynamic is inherently okay. That's the way it's always been. The challenge that gets overlooked is the impact it has on athlete development and in-game decision making.

This is the one thing that the FIBA coach understands, that we have yet to become aware of.

All good coaches know that if we can get our best players to take the most shots from spots on the floor where he/she can shoot the highest percentage, they'll have a good chance of scoring. And, without a shot clock a team can take as long as it wants to do this.

With a shot clock, on the other hand, a team has to get the best shot available within any given possession. This might not always be a team's best scorer; which is especially true in the shorter FIBA 24-second shot clock. The net effect for the FIBA coach is that their team cannot waste time to advance the ball up the court to initiate offense.

IMPACT: More players have to be able to initiate offensive transition through the use of breakout dribbles or develop vision and passing skills to 'head man' the ball.

This is why Lamar Odom, Rudy Gay, Kevin Love; and formerly, Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire, etc. prove so valuable in the FIBA game. (There are other reasons, I know.) Each is multi-skilled and can initiate offense with the dribble or pass effectively.

Here's another thing to consider... In a shortened shot clock basketball game, more late clock scenarios will arise where your best scorer will not be the only one with the ball in their hands.

IMPACT: More players have to have skills to initiate scoring; either by creating for themselves or for a teammate.

As a friend and mentor of mine, Mike MacKay, once wrote: "If at the end of a clock you: [a] always run continuity, have to yell set up, or [c] rely on same size screens you may need to reconsider what you do late in the clock [in the FIBA game]. Your players need to DEVELOP THE SKILLS TO MAKE PLAYS, NOT RUN PLAYS."

Here's more from Coach MacKay...

PLAYERS MUST DEVELOP A SHOT CLOCK, TIME-AND-SCORE MENTALITY. The speed of the game and types of shots available to you will be the biggest difference within this style of play. FIBA coaches are forced to develop a time-and-score mentality in their players. Players must catch the ball "shot ready" or in the least with a mindset to be opportunistic and to create or maintain advantage situations for their team.

The 'Shot Clock Game' requires:
  1. Ability to execute skills at a higher rate of speed
  2. Athletes to know how to make late clock decisions and have an awareness of time-and-score
  3. Development of multi-skilled athletes
Recently, Sports Illustrated wrote an article about Butler's Shelvin Mack redefining himself on USA Basketball's 2010 Men's Select Team.

"Mack [was] yelled at by U.S. select team coach Jay Wright once during the scrimmages in New York -- for not taking enough shots. Because they were working with a 24-second clock against a long-armed NBA zone, Wright pulled Mack to the bench to remind him that if he passed up one open shot, he might never get another one."


You see, in a coach controlled game (i.e. high school, AAU and NCAA), one of the subtleties of the game gets smothered: The development basketball IQ in our players.

A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS

Let's look at the numbers and the deeper impact of the shot clock in athlete development:

Number of Possessions (by both teams)
  • High School-AAU (no shot clock) = (4) possessions minimum
  • NCAA men (35-second shot clock) = (68) possessions minimum
  • NCAA women (30-second shot clock) = (80) possessions minimum
  • FIBA-WNBA (24-second shot clock) = (100) possessions minimum
  • NBA (24-second shot clock @ 48mins/game) = (120) possessions minimum

For some reason, when people see this, they think it's absurd to suggest that a high school level basketball game, in 2010, could only have four possessions. It's seems archaic (circa 1970s), right?

Well, I challenge you to step into a high school basketball game between a big city athletic team and a small town less-than-athletic team and observe for yourself. It happens all the time. Every summer in "big-time" AAU tournaments across the U.S., one team realizes that they can't out-athlete the other, so the coaching strategy is to take the 'air out of the ball.' They slow it down to minimize number of possessions to level the playing field.

The net effect is that yes, there are less possessions and an increased likelihood for the less athletic team to be able to compete for the win. But look deeper than that. There's a much deeper problem... Less possessions means more "Set it up! Set it up!" It means that less players get touches where meaningful action-reaction and initiation needs to take place. It means that one player on a team can 'dominate' - as the Euros like to say - the ball for extended periods of time. And, ultimately, it means that the development of a broader base of skilled and intelligent basketball comes to a screeching halt.

In the 'shot clock game' with only 24 seconds, at a minimum you're looking at 120 possessions. That's 120 opportunities where decisions have to be made... a minimum of 120 late clock situations... a minimum of 120... well, hopefully you get my point.

IMPACT: Improved offensively skilled players.

By simply changing the rules within which we play, we could drastically improve the quality of basketball player that's produced in North America. The rules alone would force us as coaches to teach more effectively.

--

What do you think about the FIBA game and the 24-second shot clock? Would it help or hurt athlete development?

/sEf.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT: There are 212 basketball playing countries in the world, only one doesn’t play FIBA rules.


 
Some high school basketball leagues do use a shot clock already, so I think it should be implemented nationally. When teams go into AAU play they have to revert to the no shot clock style, which when you think about is counter productive. 
 
Some high school basketball leagues do use a shot clock already, so I think it should be implemented nationally. When teams go into AAU play they have to revert to the no shot clock style, which when you think about is counter productive. 
 
Here in NY we have shot clocks for JV/Vars. games.
I never really thought about playing on those levels without a shot clock. Seems weird ...
 
Here in NY we have shot clocks for JV/Vars. games.
I never really thought about playing on those levels without a shot clock. Seems weird ...
 
Varsity and up, sure.. but like dude said KIDS still need TIME to develop.. literally.
 
Varsity and up, sure.. but like dude said KIDS still need TIME to develop.. literally.
 
always thought it was a joke that most high schools don't use a shot clock; in california they do, but when i played ball with kids from Milwaukee and Chicago, they had never played with it.

No shot clock = early 1900s basketball or somethin.
 
always thought it was a joke that most high schools don't use a shot clock; in california they do, but when i played ball with kids from Milwaukee and Chicago, they had never played with it.

No shot clock = early 1900s basketball or somethin.
 
In high school, the guys didn't have a shot clock but the girls did. The problem is there's no national standard.
 
In high school, the guys didn't have a shot clock but the girls did. The problem is there's no national standard.
 
Originally Posted by mattbrink

always thought it was a joke that most high schools don't use a shot clock; in california they do, but when i played ball with kids from Milwaukee and Chicago, they had never played with it.

No shot clock = early 1900s basketball or somethin.
Wow, I'm pretty surprised that certain other states don't use one. When I read the title of the thread I was like, what's going on

I played HS ball in Oregon and Cali, and they both had shot clocks at all levels.

I quite honestly can't believe AAU doesn't have shot clocks? That is possibly one of the dumbest things I've discovered in a while
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All high schools should have a shot clock at all levels. Or at least starting at JV. Play by the rules, SMH
 
Originally Posted by mattbrink

always thought it was a joke that most high schools don't use a shot clock; in california they do, but when i played ball with kids from Milwaukee and Chicago, they had never played with it.

No shot clock = early 1900s basketball or somethin.
Wow, I'm pretty surprised that certain other states don't use one. When I read the title of the thread I was like, what's going on

I played HS ball in Oregon and Cali, and they both had shot clocks at all levels.

I quite honestly can't believe AAU doesn't have shot clocks? That is possibly one of the dumbest things I've discovered in a while
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All high schools should have a shot clock at all levels. Or at least starting at JV. Play by the rules, SMH
 
In high school (Michigan) we didn't use a shot clock for every game...maybe not during preseason non-league games or something like that. Not like we really needed one, our games were mostly uptempo anyway.

I did hate those games with no shot clock where other teams incorporated that in their game plan. No offense, but we'd be playing an all-white Hoosier type of team who would just play stall ball
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Scores would be in the 20's and 30's
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In high school (Michigan) we didn't use a shot clock for every game...maybe not during preseason non-league games or something like that. Not like we really needed one, our games were mostly uptempo anyway.

I did hate those games with no shot clock where other teams incorporated that in their game plan. No offense, but we'd be playing an all-white Hoosier type of team who would just play stall ball
30t6p3b.gif
Scores would be in the 20's and 30's
30t6p3b.gif
 
yeah we don't use a shot clock in wisconsin or in illinois because i played basketball in both states
 
yeah we don't use a shot clock in wisconsin or in illinois because i played basketball in both states
 
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