(Spoilers) ASOIAF Books Discussion (All Books Read Edition) (Spoilers)

[tdogg2k]

It's on sight for this bastard after he drops the last book

Lol you going to be waiting no less than 5 years

Yo! I'll take that bet. $20 PayPal?

Yes sir. Even if she does it won't be by sacrifice and especially for JOn snow or even to clear the snow

 

[nako xl]

I can't with the tv thread anymore.

The inane predictions and theories are making my head hurt.

 

[tdogg2k]

People killed me when I said that

 

[shogun]

I can't with the tv thread anymore.

The inane predictions and theories are making my head hurt.

It's been like that since season 2.

The westworld thread legit made me take a break from the show and thread. Somehow people were able to "guess" what the twist was in the first few episodes and kept telling everyone. It wasn't even a good reveal but you watch shows to see stuff happen, not know already.

 

[tdogg2k]

http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/09/game-of-thrones-character-key-to-series-end/

I still don't like this theory personally.
I think grrm himself wouldn't cheapen the story by doing this.

I do believe bran will be important but not a literal history changer

 

[nako xl]

You know it's definitely an idea that George has considered and played with in his head. Whether he settled on it as the canon, I hope not.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Meanwhile, in Santa Fe

The Gawd

Live your life playboy, don't let the haters effect you.

Folk been waiting for Detox and Half Life 3, they can keep waiting on the next book.

 

[tdogg2k]

You know it's definitely an idea that George has considered and played with in his head. Whether he settled on it as the canon, I hope not.

i dont think it was ever going to be it was all a dream or bran can change things blah blah... he may see a way on how to win, butnot the former.

 

[nako xl]

You know it's definitely an idea that George has considered and played with in his head. Whether he settled on it as the canon, I hope not.

i dont think it was ever going to be it was all a dream or bran can change things blah blah... he may see a way on how to win, butnot the former.

I didn't read the whole article but assumed it was the time traveler paradox/bran is the catalyst of all things.

Not bran is dreaming it all

 

[pitman13]

Meanwhile, in Los Angeles

 

[District of Columbia]

I've given up on the books at this point

 

[hand2handking]

kobe the next summer islander 

 

[pitman13]

http://grrm.livejournal.com/536859.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

About Those Spinoffs...

So while I was on the road out California way, the story broke about the four GAME OF THRONES spinoffs that HBO is developing. And of course the news has since spread everywhere, all over the web and all over the world.

Yes, it's true. More or less. Though, as is all too common these days, various distortions and misapprehensions have crept into some of the reports along the way. And television being the fast-moving business that it is, there have already been some further developments.

For what it's worth, I don't especially like the term "spinoff," and I don't think it really applies to these new projects. What we're talking about are new stories set in the "secondary universe" (to borrow Tolkien's term) of Westeros and the world beyond, the world I created for A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE. It is a world, and a pretty big one, and if there were eight million stories in the naked city back in the 50s, just think how many more there are in an entire world, and one with thousands of years of recorded history.

None of these new shows will be 'spinning off' from GOT in the traditional sense. We are not talking Joey or AfterMASH or even Frazier or Lou Grant, where characters from one show continue on to another. So all of you who were hoping for the further adventures of Hot Pie are doomed to disappointment. Every one of the concepts under discussion is a prequel, rather than a sequel. Some may not even be set on Westeros. Rather than 'spinoff' or 'prequel,' however, I prefer the term 'successor show.' That's what I've been calling them.

Yes, I am involved, and have been for months. I had my first meeting with HBO about the possibility of a successor show back in August, when I pitched them two possible series. (One of those is among the concepts being developed, one is not). In the months that followed, other writers were brought in and pitched other ideas. Ultimately HBO decided to go ahead with four separate developments, to be written by Max Borenstein, Jane Goldman, Brian Helgeland, and Carly Wray.

It was stated in some of the reports that I am working with two of the four writers. That's not quite right. I've actually been working with all four of the writers. Every one of the four has visited me here in Santa Fe, some of them more than once, and we've spent days together discussing their ideas, the history of Westeros and the world beyond, and sundry details found only in The World of Ice & Fire and The Lands of Ice & Fire... when we weren't drinking margaritas and eating chile rellenos and visiting Meow Wolf. They are all amazing talents, and I am excited to be working with them. In between visits, I've been in touch with them by phone, text, and email, and I expect there will be a lot more back-and-forth as we move forward.

And there's more. We had four scripts in development when I arrived in LA last week, but by the time I left we had five. We have added a fifth writer to the original four. No, I will not reveal the name here. HBO announced the names of the first four, and will no doubt announce the fifth as well, once his deal has closed. He's a really terrific addition, however, a great guy and a fine writer, and aside from me and maybe Elio and Linda, I don't know anyone who knows and loves Westeros as well as he does.

Some of the reports of these developments seem to suggest that HBO might be adding four successor shows to the schedule to replace GAME OF THRONES. Decades of experience in television and film have taught me that nothing is ever really certain... but I do think it's very unlikely that we'll be getting four (or five) series. At least not immediately. What we do have here is an order for four -- now five -- pilot scripts. How many pilots will be filmed, and how many series might come out of that, remains to be seen. (If we do get five series on the air, I might have to change my name to **** Direwolf).

The one goal that EVERYONE involved shares here is to make these new shows just as good as GAME OF THRONES itself. No easy task, mind you. David Benioff and Dan Weiss are a tough, tough act to follow, as all those Emmys demonstrate.

I can't tell you what the shows will be about (well, I could, but I won't), but I will tell you a couple of things they WON'T be. Which will disappoint some of you, sure, but better to do that now than later, I think.

We're not doing Dunk & Egg. Eventually, sure, I'd love that, and so would many of you. But I've only written and published three novellas to date, and there are at least seven or eight or ten more I want to write. We all know how slow I am, and how fast a television show can move. I don't want to repeat what happened with GAME OF THRONES itself, where the show gets ahead of the books. When the day comes that I've finished telling all my tales of Dunk & Egg, then we'll do a tv show about them... but that day is still a long ways off.

We're not doing Robert's Rebellion either. I know thousands of you want that, I know there's a petition... but by the time I finish writing A SONG OF ICE & FIRE, you will know every important thing that happened in Robert's Rebellion. There would be no surprises or revelations left in such a show, just the acting out of conflicts whose resolutions you already know. That's not a story I want to tell just now; it would feel too much like a twice-told tale.

More than that, I will not say. Feel free to makes your guesses, if you like... but I am not going to be confirming or denying anything, so don't expect replies.

And yes, before someone asks, I AM STILL WORKING ON WINDS OF WINTER and will continue working on it until it's done. I will confess, I do wish I could clone myself, or find a way to squeeze more hours into the day, or a way to go without sleep. But this is what it is, so I keep on juggling. WINDS OF WINTER, five successor shows, FIRE AND BLOOD (that's the GRRMarillion, remember?), four new Wild Cards books, some things I can't tell you about yet... it's a good thing I love my work

More bad news, book readers

Let's face it, Winds isn't coming for at least another 4-5 years. If we're lucky.

Why won't this man just sit down & focus on finishing the book series?

 

[nako xl]

Because it's not his only work? I'm not mad at him. He didn't blow til he was 60+. Let him live his dream.

Also he's writing an Aegon prequel?

 

[tdogg2k]

Which aegon?

Not mad. I just want this full story. Can't wait to read it.
But let him do his thing. I think the side project is another history book. Which would be dope. Learned so much with the first one

 

[nako xl]

the conquerer. He referenced the Simarillion. His version would be the Aegon story no? 

 

[tdogg2k]

I hate to sound like a pure book enthusiasts. Been trying to re-watch the show and can't do it. Too many things aren't consistent too much detail missing and too much story.
I still think it's a great show but knowing as much of the book as I do the show doesn't bring it for me.


Vikings however is great
Just finished season 4

 

[hand2handking]

the crazy part is even after this 6th book theres still one more 

 

[KingParappa]

I understand.

Vikings is great.

 

[shogun]

I quit vikings. Don't give a crap about Ragnar's sons.

Now i'll just watch The Last Kingdom.

 

[RustyShackleford]

the crazy part is even after this 6th book theres still one more 

Y'all ain't never getting dem books.

My mans RR outchea LIVIN

 

[District of Columbia]

Joint is really the new Detox

 

[tdogg2k]

I quit vikings. Don't give a crap about Ragnar's sons.

Now i'll just watch The Last Kingdom.

been hearing last kingdom is great


I like IVAR, I think they just forced everyone to like new characters though with some of these deaths. which is/could be a good thing.

 

[shogun]

If I ever saw that crippled fool i'd stomp on him like a bug until he stopped moving.

 

[qstorm3]

Re-watching the show and made me think about the book. Like such as varys and illyrio in the beginning trying to put vaserys on the throne even though they obviously knew about aegon I wonder what their thought process was there? And how did benjen end up on the wall? When do you think littlefinger knew about Jaime and cersei? And what was his motive in killling Jon arryn?