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Paying homage 
Just another way of saying "ripping off" but in a respectful way.
Just another way of saying "ripping off" but in a respectful way.
SPUMC Thread - RIP STAN LEE - ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE out now
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One version is overwhelmingly showed more than another, especially in i regards to lead actors/actresses. There's a difference supporting characters and your main characters portraying something.
No one gives a **** that war machine and falcon are black, we give a **** that BP is being made.
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The amount of jimmies BP is gon rustle will be hysterical
I forsee it as Luke Cage times 10everysingletime
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You're kinda preaching to the choir. Was just pointing out examples where so and so relationship exists cuz you said the word never. Lol.
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The amount of jimmies BP is gon rustle will be hysterical
Maybe this is the cynic in me, but I think Marvel wants to be seen as "progressive" in making BP and breaking that "barrier," but they secretly harbor resentment to the overt "blackness" of BP and how box office #s may not be up to par.
Let's be real: BP is gonna make some white folks very uncomfortable.
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The amount of jimmies BP is gon rustle will be hysterical
Maybe this is the cynic in me, but I think Marvel wants to be seen as "progressive" in making BP and breaking that "barrier," but they secretly harbor resentment to the overt "blackness" of BP and how box office #s may not be up to par.
Let's be real: BP is gonna make some white folks very uncomfortable.
Oh, of course it will. LC made them uncomfortable and dude was a fugitive, T'Challa is king
and he gets busy.
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No, I agree with you, but you can't deny it's very subtly insulting what Hollywood does. I'm sure I'm not the only one who notices fhis low-key BS when I watch modern day films/shows. For how liberal Hollywood touts itself to be, they sure love to downplay minorities so they don't shine too much.
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Ehh idk b. I don't think a studio would push a movie that they don't think would make them money, just cuz they want to seem progressive.
Do agree they want to be seen as progressive. But I think they expect to make money too.
Do agree they want to be seen as progressive. But I think they expect to make money too.
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I think Hollywood is making a shift to more diverse casting, it's just very slow. Progress is hard. Lots of people are stuck in their ways.
Look at how fans respond when they race bended all those roles for Spidey lol, and how fans have reacted when marvel comics created new ethnic characters to represent established superheroes.
Look at how fans respond when they race bended all those roles for Spidey lol, and how fans have reacted when marvel comics created new ethnic characters to represent established superheroes.
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^ Major studios all want to make $, especially in the case of Disney being a public company and answering to shareholders.
I'm just saying they've already priced in a conservative estimate on how much BP will make (like every cautious studio should do for every film they put out) and have added an asterisk* next to it. I want BP to succeed as much as the next NT guy, but Hollywood knows deep down white folks will not turn out in droves to see a "too black" film.
Bet that they'll include Steve or BW in the BP film.
I'm just saying they've already priced in a conservative estimate on how much BP will make (like every cautious studio should do for every film they put out) and have added an asterisk* next to it. I want BP to succeed as much as the next NT guy, but Hollywood knows deep down white folks will not turn out in droves to see a "too black" film.
Bet that they'll include Steve or BW in the BP film.
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They would be right to estimate BP's box office in the lower conservative range, but that's just being realistic, I doubt there's any resentment. It's not like marvel is being forced to make BP. If they don't want to make it that much, I think they wouldn't.
For the record, I hope I'm wrong and that BP makes a lot of money lol
For the record, I hope I'm wrong and that BP makes a lot of money lol
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What lower expectations are you talking about? Your not saying Marvel is lowering expectations cause BP has a black cast right?
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The whole interracial relationship disparity is very evident when it comes to black male and non-minority female but it happens.
Its much worse for Asians and Latinos. If it does those guys are not the main characters. The couple is usually supporting characters or the main character is the female.
Not cuz it's all black cast. With that in mind they're probably expecting a strong black audience raise for this movie cuz it's well documented that good mostly all black movies will do good to great in the box office cuz black ppl come and support with their money.
But I will say on the off chance the movie doesn't do good #s the racists and ignorant of Hollywood will come out to say oh look a movie with a black lead or black cast won't make money. Same when Captain Marvel comes out.
Its much worse for Asians and Latinos. If it does those guys are not the main characters. The couple is usually supporting characters or the main character is the female.
Cuz the character isn't a-list. I bet they had conservative estimates for Dr. Strange and Ant-Man even if they account for the Marvel brand bump.What lower expectations are you talking about? Your not saying Marvel is lowering expectations cause BP has a black cast right?
Not cuz it's all black cast. With that in mind they're probably expecting a strong black audience raise for this movie cuz it's well documented that good mostly all black movies will do good to great in the box office cuz black ppl come and support with their money.
But I will say on the off chance the movie doesn't do good #s the racists and ignorant of Hollywood will come out to say oh look a movie with a black lead or black cast won't make money. Same when Captain Marvel comes out.
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Hyped.
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What's bigoted about my post?
He's a new superhero. And not sure if white america will come out for a movie where they're not well represented. Minorities in America have been conditioned to watch movies where they are not well represented all the time. White Americans, not so much. Not sure if they can completely embrace an all black superhero movie, but hopefully I'm wrong. I'll happily eat crow if it does numbers.
I'm sorry, I'm just pessimistic these days when things like race bending characters in Spidey has met some resistance and we just voted in a president that has sprouted xenophobic and racist rhetoric. Lol
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I can't wait until Get Out drops and does numbers. Because you all were saying the same **** about that.
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I'll say this with as much blackness that's in bp as reported as long as it's not like a just freed slaves movie I'll be going to see it at least 3 times only way for things to change is for them to see big money come from it
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5 for me. I already see the regular Marvel releases 2 to 3 times. Supporting the hell out of BP.
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Train scene from Spider-Man 2 is wild corny after Doctor Octopus gets off. It was definitely a visual homage to it though especially since that's considered the best Spider-Man film 
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Train scene from Spider-Man 2 is wild corny after Doctor Octopus gets off. It was definitely a visual homage to it though especially since that's considered the best Spider-Man film
Ridiculous
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Nobody is talking about the part where ppl help him when they talk about the train scene being dope.
And again I'd say that construction worker crane nonsense from ASM is just as corny.
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Train scene from Spider-Man 2 is wild corny after Doctor Octopus gets off. It was definitely a visual homage to it though especially since that's considered the best Spider-Man film
Hating just to hate.
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Sm2 was overrated to begin with. Good at the time. Still overrated.
