Star Wars Universe Thread: May The 4th Be With You

[CP1708]

Bring back Luke, to die.......

 

[danger style]

CP bouta have a stroke the day he sees this movie

 

[CP1708]

I'm sure they will make a fine movie. Certainly an upgrade over the prequels, but they are wasting an insane amount of great storytelling. And that frustrates me is all. They've done an amazing job with Marvel, but they didn't just scrap the comic books like, "naw, we got this".

 

[danger style]

I mean Disney didnt get into the Marvel business until they were fully already fully into the MCU. The first movie that Disney distributed was already the Avengers . I'm not sure that Disney has really that much to do with how the movies are going, at least relative to the credit you guys are giving them. Its really more up to the producers, Kevin Feige for Marvel and Kathleen Kennedy for Lucasfilms, and the teams they put together to shape how the movies go. So blame Kennedy

 

[CP1708]

Fair enough, but point still remains seein how much success the Marvel side has had. Stick with the material that was out there, screw what George considers "canon".

I'm perfectly fine with them adding "new" stuff for the films, absolutely 100%, but don't dismiss 2 decades of material many of the true, hardcore fans have been salivating for.

And these rumors, Luke dying in 15 minutes, or Luke bein gone for 30+ years......I mean, really?


Iron Man 1, Tony Stark is sober, in perfect health, broke as a joke, and makes a suit out of pillows.

Act 2......

 

[noblekane]

His script would've been 10x worst from the things that leaked Apparently Luke died in the first 15 minutes

Lol duke in gi joe 2 lasted longer

 

[blackboyfly]

Apparently Ardnts script was also a 'prequel apology tour' and had a huge focus on the Solo's, with little on Luke. Which is werid, because that still seems to be the direction this script seems to be going in :\

I really believe Episode VII will be awesome, at worst, it'll be as good as ROTJ imo lol. But even if it turns out to be the best Star Wars movie after ESB, I'll still have wished they went in a different direction then this proposed plot. Just doesn't make sense to me more and more I think about it.

 

[jaypesoz]

Not reading ANY spoilers, but this McQuarrie X-Wing just made my day today

Spoiler

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[blackboyfly]

^^^[Video] [/Video]

Unused concept art/Storyboard from Rotj... And one thing they haven't been shy about is how much they're using OT concept art as visuals for this film

Spoiler

 

[noblekane]

If that plot spoiler is real them ****** must have been watching eddie and the cruisers when writing this **** lol

 

[CP1708]

If I get time, I'm going to write out an idea for what I "wish" they would do. Not what I think they're going to do, but what I would want to see, on screen, to get this all started.


I will go to my grave believing they should have just recast Luke, Han, and Leia and started 5 years after Jedi, simple, the end, done. But they wanted to bring in 70 year olds.

 

[blackboyfly]

Nah, I definitely don't agree with you there. Ever since the 80's it's always been clear that if a ST ever came about, it would be in the 2010's with an older Mark/Carrie/Harrison [Video][/Video] Bringing in new actors to play Han, Luke and Leia when there's only a short time jump would take people completely out of the movie. And it's not like the old heads are going to be doing all the action scenes, that's what Driver, Ridley, Boyega and Lupita are for.

And as far as the EU goes.. I've said it before, I'm the huge Star Wars geek I am now because of the Legacy of the Force series and because of Kotor.. But the vast vast vast majority of the EU is grade a garbage. And the feeling of not knowing what's going to happen in a Star Wars movie for the first time since the 80's(because we obviously didn't have that with the prequels) >>>>>> seeing some EU adoptions played out on screen.

What Disney could've done, and I hope they still do, is use some popular EU characters and maintain their personality. For instance, the Empire is obviously in Episode VII, no reason Thrawn can't be a high ranking official. Or, Kyle Katarn, Saba Sebatyne and Corran Horn could all be Jedi Masters Luke has trained. Even if it's simple name drops like Quinlan vos in ROTS, or show them for a few scene with no dialogue like Aayla Sercura. But to follow the story lines? Nah.

 

[niketalker23]

Is this fan made? This stuff is amazing

 

[KingParappa]

my dude it had EA and Lucasarts in the beginning...

 

[niketalker23]

my dude it had EA and Lucasarts in the beginning...

I knew that but I figured maybe he added it to make it seem legit. So it is canon then?

edit - just read it's for a game

 

[sunstrooper]

It's one of the cinematics from Star Wars: The Old Republic MMORPG. They are all awsome.

Blackboyfly has a point about going for an unknown original story rather than following...well, as much as i love most of the EU, it's fan fiction after all. That way Disney kind of shows exactly that - movies are always on top when it comes to storylines. My support for Disney, however, stops here.

I think there are anough gaps in the timeline even with all EU stories made. moreover, i really hope the "leaked" storyline is just a smokescreen and the real Ep.VII will be something completely different. The leaked one is atrocious and at best good for one (bad) episode of a 6-season series, but come on, Disney, let's be serious. 

 

[pdino]

Star wars: clone wars on Netflix! Randomly picked it up and it's pretty good

 

[noblekane]

I still cant get over that hand crap it has to be a bogus rumor thrown out there to throw people off lol

 

[blackboyfly]

A Star Wars movie starting off without an overview of a ship is already a fail in my eyes.

FWIW, the guy who reported this Luke/Hand stuff is a huge Star Wars hater, AND JJ Abrams critic, but he said the things he's heard has made him extremely excited.. So I don't know. I still hope this is just misdirection from Disney.

New Trailer for Rebels. Looks like Obi-Wans message to all remaining Jedi in ROTS will be seen in the first episode.

[Video][/Video]

 

[noblekane]

Think im gonna marathon clone wars on netflix

 

[jaypesoz]

Think im gonna marathon clone wars on netflix

Just avoid any episode that has to do with Padme and political crap. The Clone focused episodes are some of the best. "Landing on Point Rain (S2,E5) would probably my most favorite episode of the whole series and The Citadel arc (season 3) and The Umbara Arc on season 4 would be my favorite muli-parters. You can also include anything involving Domino Squad to that too.

 

[firstclass]

The new trailer looks decent.

 

[CP1708]

Need to move this down a post.....hang on.

 

[CP1708]

blackboyfly

jaypesoz

firstclass

@Chester McFloppy

@DarthSka


As you see below, it's not "new" story, I used the EU, but it's not the exact EU either. Plenty of stuff is condensed, moved around, timelined different, but to fit into a trilogy, it would work, plus give nods to other spinoffs as well.


And it incorporates everyone, new and old. What'dya think? Should we contact Disney?

 

[CP1708]

Ok, so this would be what I would do, or want to see, if I were working on Episode 7.

Start with the opening crawl saying something along the lines of having advanced 25 years since the battle of Endor, the New Republic has survived the threat of Grand Admiral Thrawn, and an alien invasion by the Yuuzhan Vong. (this allows the introduction of stories, you can use in spinoff films)

Luke Skywalker has rebuilt the Jedi Order and leads them as their Grand Master, including his sister Leia, her twin children Jacen and Jaina and Luke’s son Ben.

Former Imperial Admiral Dalaa has been promoted to Chief of State and has begun investigating the Jedi order with the help of Jacen whom she has given authority of the New Republic security forces soon after returning from his Jedi trials in which he discovered a new dark force in the galaxy.

Jaina and her fiancé Jagged Fel, were in pursuit of Boba Fett’s daughter when she was taken into custody by the New Republic Security Forces led by Jaina’s twin brother. Fett, who managed to escape the Sarlacc pit at Jabba’s palace 25 years ago, was also in search of his daughter with the aid of his granddaughter before being taken into Jacen’s custody.............


(obviously, have to fill in the crawl cleaner, but the idea is there) Gives enough to fill in something about Thrawn, Vong, Fett, names of offspring, Jagged, and Dalaa. All main players. All spinnable in other trilogies as well.




First scene of course will be a ship flying, we see a shuttle landing down on a very beautiful planet much like Earth. (will learn later it is the Hapan planet, Hapes) Jacen is there to meet with his secret girl, the Hapan Queen and Jedi Tenel Ka. Much like Anakin and Amidala, they meet in secrecy like they did at the start of Revenge/Sith. This lets you in on them being together, but keeping it a secret for some reason.
They speak of a secret that will eventually become Amelia, something that is troubling Jacen very much. He will be dressed in all black, boots, shirt, pants, and robe.

He will return to his New Republic ship and will go to interrogate Ailyn Vel, Boba Fetts daughter, and mother of Mirta Gev. During the interrogation with Vel, Jacen becomes extremely angry and force chokes the life out of Vel, killing her. His rage will be forceful, and powerful, while not lifting a finger. Damage to the interrogation cell, everything.


Luke will feel something in the force, and grow a worried look immediately reaching for his comlink to speak with Leia. She will ask when the last time she’d heard from Jacen was, and she will inform him it’s been a while, and he’s been pretty distant since getting back from his trials. Luke tells her something is wrong, they need to reach out to him, and find him. Ben, Luke’s son will enter with an older red head, his mother, and Luke’s wife, Mara Jade. Luke will tell them what he felt, and that they need to see Jacen as soon as they can.

Luke, Han, Leia, Jaina, Jagged, Ben, and Mara will meet up and head off in the Falcon to rendezvous with Jacen. Jacen is busy falsifying what happened to Vel and tells Dalaa he did nothing wrong. Dalaa is concerned, but not overly as Vel was a bounty hunter and won’t be missed by many, however, she being a politician will use the fact at a later time when dealing with Fett.


On another planet, (Kesh) we see a late teen’s girl, training hard, impressive, able to defend herself well and very cunning in her movements on her homeworld. She will be pretty, and strong willed, and appear to be a strong young Jedi. She will then return home, and upon entering, will encounter a strong, powerful looking man, who berates her, and belittles her as if she is nothing. She will be afraid, but bold, even when backhanded across a room. She is no Jedi, they are Sith. This will be Vestara Khai and her father, Gavar Khai. (The new threat, the galaxy knows nothing about…..yet)


(plenty of small talk, plot points, dialogue, on the Falcon, on Dalaa’s Star Destroyer, Slave 1, etc)


Luke and co reach Dalaa’s ship, and find out that Vel has been killed, and “mysteriously” at that. They of course are wise enough to figure out that it was Jacen. When approached about the subject, Jacen is disrespectful to his mother, his father, and his uncle, even tho he seemed like the same ol Jacen when they came aboard the ship. Dalaa watches from a distance.


Leia has to communicate to Fett that his daughter has been killed, knowing, what that will mean for her family. Jacen acts busy and shu’s them off ship, saying that he is very busy. As the Falcon leaves, Jacen orders his ship to fire on the Falcon, Han’s piloting the only thing that gets them away unharmed. They do not understand why Jacen is slipping, but they recognize the signs. Jacen as they know him, is falling.


Eventually the Falcon lands, and the family splits up. Luke, Mara and Ben go to the Temple, Jaina and Fel to his duties, and Han and Leia to their own place. All of them, trying to understand what is changing within Jacen.


Vestara is set to travel with her mentor on another training exercise. There, they encounter a strange force sensitive presence, that will become Ship. Mentally Vestara will feel Ship, and communicate with it, explaining to her mentor (and the audience) what it is Ship wants. To take Vestara and her mentor, off world. Something they have never done.


Jaina is torn about her brother, and after speaking with Tenel Ka, still cannot grasp what it wrong with Jacen, or what he went thru in his Jedi Trials. Slowly, she comes to realize that somebody will have to stop Jacen, as him being the leader of the New Republic’s secret police is a lot of firepower for someone that may not be able to be trusted fully anymore. At the same time, her twin Jacen is speaking with his #2, Tahiri Veila about his deceased brother, and her former love, Anakin who was killed in the war against the Vong. Thru his Jedi hold on her, he can take her back to the moment he passed, showing her (and the audience) what happened to the 3rd Solo child. This connection, will change Veila as well, from Jedi, to Jacen’s apprentice. Jacen still appears normal to the rest of the galaxy, a Jedi hero and a member of the famous Solo clan, but those close to him fear where he is headed.

Fett shows no emotion over the death of his daughter, outside of finding a way to get to Jacen. He arranges a meeting thru back channels to speak with Dalaa, and tries to get her to send Jacen out into the open so that he can take him down with the help of Mirta. Dalaa shows him a holovid of Jacen coming down a ramp with his black cape billowing behind him, and both of them have the same sense of familiarity. Dalaa will remark how that sure is an eerie sight. (resembling Vader but without the helmet) Dalaa offers to help, but only if Fett will provide her with Mandorian strength when she needs it. Fett doesn’t like it, but agrees, for the sole reason of getting to Jacen.


Jaina will reach out to Fett, who is surprised to hear from a Solo. She asks him for his help, which he laughs at. Eventually, he sees an angle, and decides he will help her. Jaina being Jacen’s twin, is the closest match to him in terms of Jedi ability, but as twins, she would not have the upper hand. She would look for that, in training with a Mandalorian, giving her a new way to fight, along with her Jedi training. Fett sees it as a win win, either way, one of Han Solo’s children will die. He no longer cares which one.


Luke begins searching where Jacen had traveled too, and what it was he went thru that has him changing from the dashing hero he once was, to the cold blooded killer he became when he killed Fett’s daughter and fired upon his own family. This will lead to a conversation with Dalaa, who will effectively drop some nukes on him about Jedi being above and beyond the government, and if she is ever truly going to have a New Republic at peace, the Jedi need to be reined in. (this will need classic dialogue, on both sides, that will be complete eye openers for both beliefs)

Jaina will meet with Fett on Mandalore, and begin training. This, of course, will not be easy for her as Fett will test her mightily. (The main purpose here will be to see Fett in his home environment, as well as introduce other Mando’s)


Jacen will lead a New Republic charge against another faction of government as he sees fit. A battle will ensue, that will show how good Jacen is in combat.


Ship brings Vestara and her mentor to a strange planet. Even as Sith, they will be hesitant, and proceed carefully thru a jungle. They will bring another group of Sith with them under her mentor’s control. One by one, some Sith will perish to an unknown inhabitant of the planet., or even the planet itself with various live organisms the Sith have never encountered. (will eventually be Abeloth)


Han and Leia try once again to speak with Jacen after his battle, to try and get him back. He acts like himself, but nevertheless refuses to agree to anything they ask. He is polite, and calm, but also cold, and Leia can sense he is hiding something from them. His actions speak louder than his thoughts, she tells Han they have to stop him, whatever it is he is planning.


Other members of the Jedi order are dispatched to the outter rim to investigate strange reports. Kyp Durron, Saba, Ben, Mara, Kyle Katarn, Kenth Hamner, and other no named Jedi travel out at Luke’s request while he tries to figure out what to do about Jacen. (Luke has not yet been informed of Jaina’s plan)

The planet the Jedi will head for, is the same planet the team of Sith are on, with Ship, and Abeloth. (unseen at this point)

The Jedi and Sith groups will eventually run into each other, and battle will ensue. To this point, the galaxy was unaware of any Sith still living, the Jedi will now have found a rather large group of them. Word will be sent back to Luke-Leia, causing even more concern for them.


Jaina’s training will continue with Fett, but will be interrupted, much like Luke's was with Yoda. He has been hard on her, and the Mando’s have treated her rough, but not to be jokesters, merely to train her (and cause her a little discomfort as she is Han Solo’s daughter) She will receive an alarming call from Luke who needs her help elsewhere. She will return to Fett (in the next film) and Fett will use the free time to make some moves of his own.


Sith enforcements will be sent to the aid of Vestara and her group, and we will start to see the Sith leadership for the first time. Luke, Leia, Corran Horn, and Jaina will also be showing up, meaning Jacen is still free to roam the galaxy. He has been having visions, troubling visions, that scare him and darken him each time. His control over Tahiri will bring her down with him, as she must follow him in order to “see” the final moments of Anakin’s life and hold on to him any way she can. Their path to becoming Sith will be going on, while the Jedi discover an entire species of Sith they have to deal with. Jacen will become, Darth Caedus.

At this juncture, Episode 7 closes, with a pause in the battle between Jedi and Sith, Abeloth still undetected and only hinted at, Caedus turning (and not yet known to the Jedi) as well as the secret Jacen was keeping. Dalaa’s deal with Fett has been introduced, but not yet enacted, and plenty is left on the plate for Episode 8. As I stated, this only the rough story I would follow, dialogue and further character development would be needed, the names of other random Jedi/Sith, Dalaa’s right hand man (I forget his name), the planet they will meet Vestara on, etc. All of that would need to be fleshed out. But this is the story I would put on screen, and would open doors for other spin offs to follow later. (like the Vong war, Thrawn, Anakin Solo, Fett post RotJ, etc)

So anyone that actually read this, would you watch this movie once it was cleaned and polished up?


(Eventually, the 2nd film would feature Jacen/Caedus killing Mara, and the 3rd film would be Jaina vs Caedus, while Luke meets with Abeloth. At the same time, the Jedi Temple being sieged by the Mandos, from Dalaa's request.) The close of the trilogy could “look” like Luke had defeated Abeloth, and the Jedi have repelled the Sith, but really, Abeloth would just be hiding, and taking another form. While the Sith slip back into the shadows, and later, more films could delve into those stories, including Ben and Vestara’s story. Amelia being the reason Jacen fell to the darkside, she was the vision he saw of a Jedi sitting on a throne, in danger, his daughter, with Tenel Ka, the Hapan Fleet etc.

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